Silicon Wafer Pricing Falling for the First Time in Three Years

[londiste]

The reason why car companies (and other companies) use 40nm or older chips, is because the your tire pressure sensor microcontroller (radio + ADC + logic, its a very small computer) doesn't need to shrink. The vast majority of "computers" you use (Radio interface, car starter, keyfob, tire pressure sensor, antilock brakes, thermostat, toaster oven timer, etc. etc.) are of this class of microcontrollers. They don't shrink, they stay the same for 20+ years at a time. Heck, 40nm is rather luxurious to these, a lot of them are still 180nm or older.

No real need for shrink and the huge price advantage of older node aside - a lot of these controllers contain a significant part of stuff that does not shrink all too well for various reasons, for example IO or RAM.

 

[Fourstaff]

@Fourstaff you mean the big 3 surely or are you also on the train of AMD must be the value option, must, and are solely responsible for the price of part's IE they're all at it no?!.

OT it's a wafer not a chip it can be used in 14 Nm or 4Nm and it's not the largest cost of chip manufacturing so won't affect the cost we pay much.

Since it's the process costs that are doubling over time, EUV ain't easy.

Probably all of them, but AMD announced it explicitly.

 

[kiakk]

Let see in the future... IT industry can convert everything into price increasing.

Less demand/more demand: price+++
Flood/No water: price+++
No waffer/Enough waffer: price+++
Full Moon/New moon: price+++
Stonger Sun activites: price+++
Traffic jam: Price+++

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Probably all of them, but AMD announced it explicitly.

Nvidia did as well. Not sure about Intel.

 

[A&P211]

They will have to drop it down to 1599.99

Let see in the future... IT industry can convert everything into price increasing.

Less demand/more demand: price+++
Flood/No water: price+++
No waffer/Enough waffer: price+++
Full Moon/New moon: price+++
Stonger Sun activites: price+++
Traffic jam: Price+++

You pulled an Intel with the +'s.

 

[Prima.Vera]

It's also possible that the end customers won't see any direct benefits from lower costs to the manufacturers.

Most certainly they(we) will not see any cost benefit.

 

[Redwoodz]

Nvidia did as well. Not sure about Intel.

Don't you love this modern day & age if a company see's a downtrend and adjusts output accordingly, suddenly, they are evil because they didn't cause an overload of inventory and lose money. lmao

 

[kiakk]

You pulled an Intel with the +'s.

How do you know others preferences what is the best offer for them and on which market on what date of purchase?
When I needed upgrade my old PC, I wanted to buy AMD, but 1. my preferences 2. by the prices in that period of time 3. in that retail market with 4. a good price offering with a good MOBO, overall the Intel platform was less pricy (+) than AMD (++) platform was.
While I had much more AMD platforms during my life. I am not fun of any company or brand. I am fun of my budget balance.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

How do you know others preferences what is the best offer for them and on which market on what date of purchase?
When I needed upgrade my old PC, I wanted to buy AMD, but 1. my preferences 2. by the prices in that period of time 3. in that retail market with 4. a good price offering with a good MOBO, overall the Intel platform was less pricy (+) than AMD (++) platform was.
While I had much more AMD platforms during my life. I am not fun of any company or brand. I am fun of my budget balance.

I think the point was about the number of 14nm refreshes (14nm+++[+?]) rather than a price comparison.

 

[A&P211]

How do you know others preferences what is the best offer for them and on which market on what date of purchase?
When I needed upgrade my old PC, I wanted to buy AMD, but 1. my preferences 2. by the prices in that period of time 3. in that retail market with 4. a good price offering with a good MOBO, overall the Intel platform was less pricy (+) than AMD (++) platform was.
While I had much more AMD platforms during my life. I am not fun of any company or brand. I am fun of my budget balance.

I prefer to also buy cheaper brands but I guess for my needs its mostly all Intel and Nvidia. My needs are more laptop based than desktop.