Motherboard Shipments Drop by Ten Million Units in 2022

[ThrashZone]

Must drop prices. Asus especially must drop base prices and premium markup, because they got a "lot of oil" due to greed.

Yep asus rog boards the only ones worth thinking of are completely stupid priced.

 

[user556]

I think part of what happened was, with the Covid shortages and high demand, the marketers said lets stop making low-end products. And then that extreme demand was over as quickly as it began leaving the retailers with lots of expensive stock. The shelves have gone empty of what people want, so the retail sales plummet. Then the retailers stopped buying the expensive parts too.

 

[AusWolf]

No surprise, considering the end of the "work from home" era, and recent motherboard prices.

 

[billEST]

B760 cost $31 per 1/1000 units. For more of 1000 has discounts which is not public known.

great secret

Chipset Intel® B760

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Really not sure how sells were ever really that good
Socket changes over and over I mean people have to realize sooner or later why are they wasting money like this year after year
There are far less expensive hobbies that aren't eol'ed at such a fast rate and have far more enjoyable usages than computers.

 

[mechtech]

Hmmm. Well Black Friday got a mobo for $270can. Now it’s $350

it’s hard to pay more for something once you’ve seen it sell for xx amount of $$.

Also. Everyone probably bought stuff with their Covid government cheque (for those that got them)

 

[Diverge]

Everything is too expensive, and if you already built a decent PC in the last few years there's no reason to upgrade. I used to buy the best high-end PGU every year... but since I seldom play games anymore, there's no need. I can browse the net on my phone or chromebook...

 

[Zareek]

Agreed. Again just close your wallets and think on the real important things.

Like Food. I can tell you right now our Government is messing with the numbers about the cost of food. They only stated 10% according to their figures.

But I can tell you this. The REAL Cheap Walmart Brand of bread costed 88 cents in 2/22. The same cheap bread now cost $1.47 per loaf where I live. Over 60% in price increase.
Eggs? Yeaaaa. Lets not go there. But milk about 30% over last year.

80% of the people in the US do not have the money like they did back in 2019. So of course people are not going to upgrade their computers/tech.

Because they can't.

Food prices have gone insane, I think it is mostly profiteering at work. We've allowed big corporations to take over our food supply, and now we will pay for it. The egg prices, however, are mostly due to the worst avian flu in U.S. History. Supply and demand, with almost 53 million birds dead. Apparently, mostly egg laying chickens, the birds raised for meat were not affected as much. Most places are seeing big drops in egg prices as new birds are starting to lay. I think we were seeing $7-8/doz. and they are already down to $4-5/doz. I think we will see $2-3/doz. eventually.

 

[Assimilator]

But I can tell you this. The REAL Cheap Walmart Brand of bread costed 88 cents in 2/22. The same cheap bread now cost $1.47 per loaf where I live. Over 60% in price increase.

You can thank Vladimir Putin for that.

 

[Just Some Noise]

Yes, the only think i can think of regarding this subject.

 

[Bomby569]

if a A*** motherboard that cost 50 to 60$ very recently is now 150$ and more they can survive the drop in sales and still make a ton of money, they probably even make more. Less production cost, less customer support, less shipping cost, less warehouse cost, etc.. etc... etc...

As long as idiots keep buying they are living the dream.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

You can thank Vladimir Putin for that.

Putin is causing food suppliers to gouge prices for record profits?

How Profit Inflation Made Your Groceries So Damn Expensive

While the Federal Reserve hikes interest rates in a bid to ease inflation, corporate profits across the supply chain are at record levels. It's no coincidence that your grocery bills have skyrocketed.

www.forbes.com

Sounds like excuses to me. Whether it be food, motherboards, medication, or fuel, every industry has used international events to jack up prices to make record bucks. COVID was the big bad guy for years, and now that it has become the cold, the industry is desperately trying to make putin the new COVID. But numbers dont lie, these corporate leeches are enriching themselves at the cost of everyone who isnt the 1%, and now that the free money spigot has been turned off consumer spending is collapsing in slow motion.

I'd like to say that I hope this teaches consoomers to stop CONSOOOMing everything in sight and practice some self restraint, but I know the moment more money flows in sales will pick right back up.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

almost 53 million birds dead. Apparently, mostly egg laying chickens, the birds raised for meat were not affected as much

Yes one kind chicken birds with minimal subkind differences because selection. But one SK is sick other not.

 

[Deleted member 177333]

Ya not shocked, here - I just upgraded my box about 6 weeks back - I looked at going to the new AMD 7000 series, but I was blown away by both the Mainboard & Memory prices (DDR5) so I decided to not move that far forward, and ended up picking up an 11900K with the Z590 Steel Legend from Newegg (combo deal) where the mainboard was essentially free.

If they want to move more units, they've got to sell them at reasonable prices. I would have loved to move to a 7950X and DDR5 memory but I wasn't paying ~$1000 in just the MB + memory, lol.

 

[chrcoluk]

WIll the vendors actually be surprised? they got greedy, AMD motherboards especially. GPU pricing/availability will have impacted the wider PC industry as well.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

WIll the vendors actually be surprised? they got greedy, AMD motherboards especially.

Oh they will be, because vendor swill have drank their own kool aid and fully believe that the gouge-o-rama era is here to stay with those juicy margins, and there is no reason it would ever slow down. The boards will put their fingers in their ears, blame this on covid restrictions or ukraine, and keep the prices up until their yearly books look like total trash and reality hits them in the jaw with a clue-by-4.

 

[chrcoluk]

Very interesting numbers; I would've expected that the manufacturers who serve the lower end of the market, like ASRock, would report better figures than the ones serving the higher end.

Ironically I checked a UK retailer only two days ago, and found they had almost no ASRock boards for sale, was all MSI/gigabyte/ASUS no other brands. The ASRock were only for older chipset boards.

 

[Aleksandar_038]

Prices are insane - and with those prices, each MB maker is still far in "green" territory. Getting half-decent ATX board for less than 150 EUR, at least where I live, is mission impossible. The cheapest B760 boards are around 120 - 130 EUR, and that is GigaByte B760 DS3H - it has a back panel of dirt-cheap 55 EUR B150 mobo that I had for ages...

The reason for ubiquitous technological advancement and all those "upgrades" that we love to perform is that you always could get more performance and more features for the same money - or at least, for similar money. Now, you get bunch of new features or performance, but for 200% more money - it is road to nowhere.

On the other hand, the motherboard market is especially finicky and hard. Who remembers Epox, Abit, Soltek, FIC, Soyo (turns out still exist on Chinese market, I do not know is its same company or just brand leftover), AOpen, Chaintech, DFI, ECS, Foxconn... All established motherboard producers in their time, now gone with the wind. When I was a kid, Chaintech was a big hit and omnipresent on our market, then it was Epox / Abit era... FIC was famous for some models... They are all gone. The problem is, with just four big producers left, that the DIY market is ending.

 

[Diverge]

Prices are insane - and with those prices, each MB maker is still far in "green" territory. Getting half-decent ATX board for less than 150 EUR, at least where I live, is mission impossible. The cheapest B760 boards are around 120 - 130 EUR, and that is GigaByte B760 DS3H - it has a back panel of dirt-cheap 55 EUR B150 mobo that I had for ages...

The reason for ubiquitous technological advancement and all those "upgrades" that we love to perform is that you always could get more performance and more features for the same money - or at least, for similar money. Now, you get bunch of new features or performance, but for 200% more money - it is road to nowhere.

On the other hand, the motherboard market is especially finicky and hard. Who remembers Epox, Abit, Soltek, FIC, Soyo (turns out still exist on Chinese market, I do not know is its same company or just brand leftover), AOpen, Chaintech, DFI, ECS, Foxconn... All established motherboard producers in their time, now gone with the wind. When I was a kid, Chaintech was a big hit and omnipresent on our market, then it was Epox / Abit era... FIC was famous for some models... They are all gone. The problem is, with just four big producers left, that the DIY market is ending.

All brands that used to exist when people went to computer shows for the best prices. I still have some of those old boards in my junk collection somewhere.

 

[Readlight]

Looking old motherboard reviews.
They all bad because off low quality power supply and bad chassis air circuit.

 

[Tek-Check]

If you want Thunderbolt 4, it can only be found on high end motherboards that cost 500+, yet they are ubiquitous on laptops.

This is not correct anymore. I follow it closely. Thundebolt 4 has proliferated like never before into the mainstream boards under umbrella of USB4 ports. Asrock and Asus are especially keep to include it in may of their boards. Gigabyte and MSI not so keen, as yet.
Asrock also has the best HDMI 2.1 FRL ports in the world currently. Almost every single AM5 board features 32 Gbps port for onboard graphics.

 

[Rouxenator]

Got my B550 ITX in December 2020 and a R7 5700G a year ago. Gonna keep it for a long time.

 

[Icon Charlie]

Food prices have gone insane, I think it is mostly profiteering at work. We've allowed big corporations to take over our food supply, and now we will pay for it. The egg prices, however, are mostly due to the worst avian flu in U.S. History. Supply and demand, with almost 53 million birds dead. Apparently, mostly egg laying chickens, the birds raised for meat were not affected as much. Most places are seeing big drops in egg prices as new birds are starting to lay. I think we were seeing $7-8/doz. and they are already down to $4-5/doz. I think we will see $2-3/doz. eventually.

I would like to say that is true, but unfortunately IMHO there is more going on than just the bird flu.

You see IMHO I firmly believe that there is some speculation going on to make things worse. I've invested in the past into commodities. Mostly into the more common metals such as copper and aluminum. Food stuffs are sold on the stock market as well but next we can go down a level with certain distributors having control of all distribution of a certain product.

U.S. senator demands FTC investigate possible price-gouging as egg prices more than double in past year

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed sent a letter Tuesday asking for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate whether egg prices have been improperly manipulated by...

www.marketwatch.com

The problem with the Bird Flu excuse is... why did chicken prices go down in my area? Only eggs were effected and not chickens as a whole. And yes there is going to be people saying that a lot of egg laying hens got hit... okay... well then why eggs are cheap in Mexico? They should be hit by the same nasty flu as the US

Na. IMHO there is just people speculating on people's misfortune to make a fast buck. Or have we already forgotten the Toilet Paper Crisis. Heh.

How does Chickens and Video cards have similar issues?

It's all about control. When you have little to no competition you have a Corporatocracy taking place.

Right now this is happening more and more to the detriment of people.

And as stated before close your wallet on those companies that are doing this. Sooner or later they will have bring the prices down enough for people to buy them in earnest.

 

[Zareek]

I would like to say that is true, but unfortunately IMHO there is more going on than just the bird flu.

You see IMHO I firmly believe that there is some speculation going on to make things worse. I've invested in the past into commodities. Mostly into the more common metals such as copper and aluminum. Food stuffs are sold on the stock market as well but next we can go down a level with certain distributors having control of all distribution of a certain product.

U.S. senator demands FTC investigate possible price-gouging as egg prices more than double in past year

U.S. Sen. Jack Reed sent a letter Tuesday asking for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate whether egg prices have been improperly manipulated by...

www.marketwatch.com

The problem with the Bird Flu excuse is... why did chicken prices go down in my area? Only eggs were effected and not chickens as a whole. And yes there is going to be people saying that a lot of egg laying hens got hit... okay... well then why eggs are cheap in Mexico? They should be hit by the same nasty flu as the US

Na. IMHO there is just people speculating on people's misfortune to make a fast buck. Or have we already forgotten the Toilet Paper Crisis. Heh.

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How does Chickens and Video cards have similar issues?

It's all about control. When you have little to no competition you have a Corporatocracy taking place.

Right now this is happening more and more to the detriment of people.

And as stated before close your wallet on those companies that are doing this. Sooner or later they will have bring the prices down enough for people to buy them in earnest.

I am absolutely sure that it was more than a bird flu. Companies in every industry have started copying what the oil industry does. Whenever they have a hardship to overcome rather than losing money, they double down and raise prices. Knowing that consumers will pay the price, and they will walk away with more money. Too few corporations own too much of certain business segments. There is no diversity and very little competition. Basically, capitalism has consumed itself. The old rules are out the window. I could go on and on and provide endless examples. Business ethics have basically gone extinct, especially here in the land of the free.

 

[AusWolf]

I am absolutely sure that it was more than a bird flu. Companies in every industry have started copying what the oil industry does. Whenever they have a hardship to overcome rather than losing money, they double down and raise prices. Knowing that consumers will pay the price, and they will walk away with more money. Too few corporations own too much of certain business segments. There is no diversity and very little competition. Basically, capitalism has consumed itself. The old rules are out the window. I could go on and on and provide endless examples. Business ethics have basically gone extinct, especially here in the land of the free.

I don't disagree, but we must not forget that fluctuations in the oil (fuel) industry affect everything in a world where global shipments (on gigantic container vessels) are key.