PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

[axiumone]

I hope whatever asus paid to license the ek logo was enough, because now both of the companies look at best completely incompetent and at worst malicious towards their customers.

 

[Chaitanya]

I had to read your comment a few times, because I initially thought you referred to some third party company whose name evoked the Shih Tzu dog breed.

brachycephalic dogs are horrible even worse than worst of PC industry.

 

[mama]

Its helps on the low end MBs when they get to 100c. But doesn't do much for higher end parts.

Don't get a lower end MB and avoid Asus VRM blocks. Easy.

 

[Steamroller]

One important fact is that you need to contact ASUS for the replacement VRM, so I guess that gives away the fact where is it made.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Not really seeing ek doesn't sell mother boards with their water blocks installed on them

Asus sells the boards complete minus obvious equipment and warranties them for likely 3 years period :doh:

 

[Arco]

Warranty: 1 year*

* Void if used.

 

[axiumone]

Hi,
Not really seeing ek doesn't sell mother boards with their water blocks installed on them

Asus sells the boards complete minus obvious equipment and warranties them for likely 3 years period :doh:

Really? Odd. I guess I’m must be imagining a whole motherboard and graphics card sections of the ek webshop.

Motherboards & Graphics Cards

EKWaterBlocks Shop offers you complete assortiment for water-cooling of your PC. Only EK and EK confirmed quality products.

www.ekwb.com

 

[ThrashZone]

Really? Odd. I guess I’m must be imagining a whole motherboard and graphics card sections of the ek webshop.

Motherboards & Graphics Cards

EKWaterBlocks Shop offers you complete assortiment for water-cooling of your PC. Only EK and EK confirmed quality products.

www.ekwb.com

Hi,
Only issue with that is it's void of the formula

 

[chrcoluk]

I will keep sticking to air cooling, none of these shenanigans.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Hi,
This is one of the biggest reasons I love plexi/ acrylic tops
You can see what's going on inside without disassembly

That's why I pick plexi/acrylic tops too.

 

[mrjayviper]

Ethylene glycol is what I've used and even windshield washer fluid.

what's the mixture ratio? Thank you

 

[Deleted member 185158]

what's the mixture ratio? Thank you

50/50. For chilling, not mixed.

 

[mrjayviper]

50/50. For chilling, not mixed.

do you buy the cheapest concentrate?

 

[Deleted member 185158]

do you buy the cheapest concentrate?

Yes. Auto store brand.

 

[Mussels]

falsely advertising product materials should be a major criminal offence - doing dumb things like that with watercooling components should make them liable for any damage to the loop and other hardware used in conjunction with it, since they knowingly used inferior materials and the end users cannot replace it

the way the coolant gunked up reminds me of what happened with my EK hardware and coolant, and i never got that fully resolved until @EddyAlphacool helped me out

I will keep sticking to air cooling, none of these shenanigans.

my 3090 was unbearable on air, but i'm absolutely with you - when things go wrong, they go WRONG

 

[Trev]

when things go wrong, they go WRONG

Yeah, like when a manufacturer completely sabotages their customers
Otherwise, liquid is an easy and effective choice for certain use cases (like multi-GPU).

 

[goodeedidid]

I do competitive benchmarking.
Ok So, there are more than 2%_3% gains,
When overclocking more than just a cpu, or just a gpu.

A total system overclock generally can increase average performance gains over 10%, but we also need to remember how we would take these measurements.

In some applications, sure, maybe single digit performance gains. But usually just setting the XMP, which is overclocking, gains at least single digit gains.

Everyone's doing it. XMP alone strictly speaking. Should we all just run defaults?? No.

And if by any luck you manage to gain some 10%, which I don't really think is real because how much more juice can you squeeze from already OCed components by default like RAM, GPU, and CPU? Also at what cost, building complex water-cooling solutions that have much higher risk from things like leaking, that take so much from your time actually to build instead of actually enjoying playing games. It's just simple math and common sense IMO. Not worth it. In real world usage scenario you won't feel the difference at all, except in benchmarks, but who cares about just some benchmark scores. At the end you end up with a machine that is noisy and makes aquarium bubbly noises lol

 

[Deleted member 185158]

And if by any luck you manage to gain some 10%, which I don't really think is real because how much more juice can you squeeze from already OCed components by default like RAM, GPU, and CPU? Also at what cost, building complex water-cooling solutions that have much higher risk from things like leaking, that take so much from your time actually to build instead of actually enjoying playing games. It's just simple math and common sense IMO. Not worth it. In real world usage scenario you won't feel the difference at all, except in benchmarks, but who cares about just some benchmark scores. At the end you end up with a machine that is noisy and makes aquarium bubbly noises lol

I suppose this is going to depend very much on the hardware being used, what it's purpose and the goals for that purpose.

A 12400F will OC an easy 1000mhz on a water loop. It's max multi is 40x.
My 13600KF, which is for sale, seems quite happy at 5.5ghz.

People must care something about benchmarking. There's an entire section on every tech forum for benchmark scores.

People choose liquid cooling for lower average temps and in most cases, less noise.

Then there's People that go even further and delid running direct die for even lower die temps.

After saying all that, there's an entire website dedicated to benchmarking. It's also the largest collaboration of scores, be it 2D or 3D.

Real world scenarios differ from one rig to another.

The only type of bubbling I like to hear is dry ice boiling in some acetone..... and you think just water cooling is dangerous lol.

To each their own!

 

[fb020997]

Hi,
This is one of the biggest reasons I love plexi/ acrylic tops
You can see what's going on inside without disassembly

Yup. Bot my CPU and GPU blocks are copper+plexi, so I can see if there are deposits/crud in the microchannels. And also because they were cheaper than nickel plated ones, and much more reliable since there isn’t anything that can flake off.

 

[Mussels]

Yup. Bot my CPU and GPU blocks are copper+plexi, so I can see if there are deposits/crud in the microchannels. And also because they were cheaper than nickel plated ones, and much more reliable since there isn’t anything that can flake off.

Same - and this DID happen to me, so i'm glad i chose that

The AIO's I've dealt with that failed all had zero way to inspect the coolant without pretty much breaking them first

 

[zlobby]

Same - and this DID happen to me, so i'm glad i chose that

The AIO's I've dealt with that failed all had zero way to inspect the coolant without pretty much breaking them first

I use AIO in builds that are meant to last no more than 3 years. Then the AIO go to fleabay and I get the new batch.

If you are serious about performance and reliability you gotta DYI.

 

[Chrispy_]

my 3090 was unbearable on air, but i'm absolutely with you - when things go wrong, they go WRONG

When custom loops go wrong, it's almost always your fault though. Few of us (me included) do up clamps with a torque wrench, drain/flush/refill as regularly as we're supposed to, or cross every t and dot every i. I leak-test, fill it and go, and for a CPU swap I just bend the block out of the way, stressing the tubing, and shove that bastard back on. Might it leak? Sure, but it was convenient. Also, my hardware's not really valuable enough for me to cry over if I break it. I'll be annoyed with myself if that happens, but I can afford another one - and I'm pretty sure anyone paying for full custom loops 'can afford another one'.

 

[Mussels]

When custom loops go wrong, it's almost always your fault though. Few of us (me included) do up clamps with a torque wrench, drain/flush/refill as regularly as we're supposed to, or cross every t and dot every i. I leak-test, fill it and go, and for a CPU swap I just bend the block out of the way, stressing the tubing, and shove that bastard back on. Might it leak? Sure, but it was convenient. Also, my hardware's not really valuable enough for me to cry over if I break it. I'll be annoyed with myself if that happens, but I can afford another one - and I'm pretty sure anyone paying for full custom loops 'can afford another one'.

You say that like EK (and other brands) havent had batches of faulty coolant, or like this thread is about released hardware with the wrong materials making things like distilled water go wrong

 

[Chrispy_]

You say that like EK (and other brands) havent had batches of faulty coolant, or like this thread is about released hardware with the wrong materials making things like distilled water go wrong

I thought you were comparing custom water to air-cooling?
Water cooling is just more hassle and carries higher risk, including not just the complexities of manufacturers screwing things like metal mixes up, but also our own foibles

 

[ThrashZone]

You say that like EK (and other brands) havent had batches of faulty coolant, or like this thread is about released hardware with the wrong materials making things like distilled water go wrong

Hi,
Yeah mayhems x1 eco clear just the premix can turn greenish if using hardwarelabs radiators
Found this out the hard way and mayhems knows all about it they just don't advertise it lol
X1-clear concentrate does not have this issue though is the weird part and yes mix with distilled water is normal.

I use mayhems xt-1 concentrate now good for 4-5 years supposedly so I shall see.

EK wise the sludge they created with bad batches of kryofuel is going to be hard to beat by other manufactures though