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$300 what again
He specifically mentioned the custom keyboard market, where you can spend $300 to get a keyboard without any keys or keycaps installed.
Theres a niche high end keyboard market that's INCREDIBLY expensive and these companies want in.


plus all the crap you need to buy in order to make it not sound like total garbage
Either you're only buying MX blues and their other brand equivalents, or you're doing something really wrong with your keyboards

Fun fact: anyone who pays $230 for anything keyboard/mouse related FROM ANY company
I coughed up for a GPro wireless when they're insanely priced here, because of nerve damage in my hand making me unable to keep using my G903
Maybe 10 seconds with that thing and my hand seizes up into a claw and i cant hold anything for hours - yet the Gpro is 100% fine for hours on end

Dont forget that these devices appeal to people beyond "buying the most expensive" these high end products try to mix the best of everything together when an end user may only want half those features, but the general userbase that buys them doesnt agree on which half they want so they include em all
 

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He specifically mentioned the custom keyboard market, where you can spend $300 to get a keyboard without any keys or keycaps installed.
Theres a niche high end keyboard market that's INCREDIBLY expensive and these companies want in.
agreed and im fully aware of the mech keyboard rabbit hole but my reply to that person was that u dont need to drop $300 to get a nice mech keyboard. i think thats the misconception among the gaming crowd that u NEED to spend hundreds and then hours of modding to get something better than a Razer/logi/corsair board which is far from reality. Lots of folks on r/mechanicalkeyboards do it, but its more of a preference to make it sound/feel a certain way and nothing more. Lots of great out of the box boards out there for $200 or less with no modding needed.

Also Razer has no interest in wanting to be part of the custom mech keyboard crowd, at least my own subjective opinion. why? Because they dont even build them with plate mounted stabs, hotswappable, south facing sockets and with qmk/via support which are like basic features for many sub $200 mech boards. Razer/Logi/Corsair pick and choose the features that sell the most these days - a knob or lubed stabs or detachable usb c etc and capitalize on those. For example now there is a big push for gasket mount and acrylic boards because they sound/feel a certain way so i would bet money that Razer's next high end board will speak to some of those features but u know for the usual premium.
 
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agreed and im fully aware of the mech keyboard rabbit hole but my reply to that person was that u dont need to drop $300 to get a nice mech keyboard. i think thats the misconception among the gaming crowd that u NEED to spend hundreds and then hours of modding to get something better than a Razer/logi/corsair board which is far from reality. Lots of folks on r/mechanicalkeyboards do it, but its more of a preference to make it sound/feel a certain way and nothing more. Lots of great out of the box boards out there for $200 or less with no modding needed.

Also Razer has no interest in wanting to be part of the custom mech keyboard crowd, at least my own subjective opinion. why? Because they dont even build them with plate mounted stabs, hotswappable, south facing sockets and with qmk/via support which are like basic features for many sub $200 mech boards. Razer/Logi/Corsair pick and choose the features that sell the most these days - a knob or lubed stabs or detachable usb c etc and capitalize on those. For example now there is a big push for gasket mount and acrylic boards because they sound/feel a certain way so i would bet money that Razer's next high end board will speak to some of those features but u know for the usual premium.
^ This. Razer isn't really into the custom kb segment at all. They just copied some features to somehow justify a price tag, that is their price tag with branding on top.

There is an idea in commerce that if you price something very high, it automatically gains status of said segment.
 

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agreed and im fully aware of the mech keyboard rabbit hole but my reply to that person was that u dont need to drop $300 to get a nice mech keyboard. i think thats the misconception among the gaming crowd that u NEED to spend hundreds and then hours of modding to get something better than a Razer/logi/corsair board which is far from reality. Lots of folks on r/mechanicalkeyboards do it, but its more of a preference to make it sound/feel a certain way and nothing more. Lots of great out of the box boards out there for $200 or less with no modding needed.

Also Razer has no interest in wanting to be part of the custom mech keyboard crowd, at least my own subjective opinion. why? Because they dont even build them with plate mounted stabs, hotswappable, south facing sockets and with qmk/via support which are like basic features for many sub $200 mech boards. Razer/Logi/Corsair pick and choose the features that sell the most these days - a knob or lubed stabs or detachable usb c etc and capitalize on those. For example now there is a big push for gasket mount and acrylic boards because they sound/feel a certain way so i would bet money that Razer's next high end board will speak to some of those features but u know for the usual premium.
they sell custom keycaps and make a nice profit, that's as far as they want to go here - they want to appeal to the market who want custom keyboards but dont want to build them, and then offer the optional accesories they can profit from (coiled cables and coloured keys)
 
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