Microsoft to Standardize RGB Control within Windows 11 Settings

[ThrashZone]

Says the one being childish and cant see the REAL value in RGB.

Hi,
Only value in rgb is the companies selling the devises
Otherwise it is just bling to impress other kids.

Only one person uses rgb to show temperature and activity/ stress level I'd say this is not a kid game

 

[chrcoluk]

Probably the best announced 11 feature as of yet, but this requires either cooperation from vendors or Microsoft reverse engineering I guess?

 

[Deleted member 211755]

Hi,
Only value in rgb is the companies selling the devises
Otherwise it is just bling to impress other kids.

Only one person uses rgb to show temperature and activity/ stress level I'd say this is not a kid game

I never bought any of my devices just because they had RGB on them.
B450 Tomahawk was the best MBO in class
Tridentz Neo one of the fastest kits out there at the time latency wise
Gaming X had such good thermals and noise levels I had to buy it
Just so happens I like Logitech peripherals
and all those devices are supported in OpenRGB so I took advantage
I never needed my PC to change colors as the temps are changing
It's enough to run the most stressful of stress tests once in a while to see to stability and thermals

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Again there are ways to use RGB for something other than looks.

My pc is always on, has been years now folding and bad things have happened, causing pc overheats and shutdowns.

I don't always sit at check my pc but I can at a glance know if it's thermal throttling or way above temp.

All set any static colour. You want. Including black.



If a part is at max it glows red.

Thermally overloaded it glows white.


One glance I know it's right.


Like analogue dials verses digital readouts.

Ease wins.

Damn pone

I read this like someone was reciting a very weird poem at some coffee shop and at the end, people snap their fingers instead of clapping.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I read this like someone was reciting a very weird poem at some coffee shop and at the end, people snap their fingers instead of clapping.

Weird!?!, I will admit RGB was bought for the looks, I'm a true tech nerd after all but my extended use I thought, made sense, then again ,I have had pc fires, coolant loop blockages and all sorts including some house mate or other being a penguin.

I suppose it is weird in a way but so be it, ,, we Rollin.

 

[Tropick]

I'm definitely salty!

• I'm salty that rainbow-vomit is the default and needs third-party software to disable. RGB should be opt-in, not opt-out and since it's software controlled, why does it default to on without the software?
• I'm salty that RGBLED dominates the market and comes with a price premium that you have to pay, even if you don't want RGBLED.
• I'm salty that most RGBLED fans are inferior because the lighting wastes space around the frame, hub, or both.
• I'm salty that RGBLED is a spaghetti nightmare of cables, splitters, and hubs - locking you into a proprietary ecosystem of one vendor if you want to tie a lot of RGB together with less mess.
• I'm salty that there's no standard connector for RGB and that the most commonly-used one is a shitty, non-locking connector that falls off the header with ease AND allows you to plug 5V things into a 12V header which will probably fry the RGBLEDs on your fans/block/res/pump/whatever.
• I'm salty that the best solution for controlling RGBLED is a third-party utility that is required to always run because not all RGB devices have memory to save your preferences.
• I'm salty that people keep saying "oh just turn it off" when there's no "off" button and it's not as straightforward as that.
• I'm salty that people keep saying "stop buying RGB" when many manufacturers now exclusively make RGB products.

Hopefully microsoft adopting RGB control will finally bring some standards and conformity to the messed-up, tangled, incompatible, and poorly-managed hellscape that is PC RGBLED.

I have nothing against tasteful RGB. I have an RGB keyboard, mouse, motherboard, RAM, and graphics card. I have most of it turned off, apart from the keyboard and mouse which are set to a dim white. OpenRGB was a big help but it wasn't a perfect solution as it doesn't fully understand my GPU's lighting giving me very little control over it compared to MSI's own (horrible) bloatware. I'm happier to have no RGB in my case, than to get the RGB effect I want at the cost of using MSI's horrible, bloated, Mystic Light suite.

Nah you're not salty you have genuine grievances with the way manufacturers handle their lighting implementations. Those points are valid, RGB should be able to be controlled with a physical switch or something like it. "Opt-in" as you put it. My 6950XT came with a really poor stock RGB setup but luckily ASRock spent the extra 3 cents to stick an "RGB OFF" switch on the PCB.

More components should have either this or have the ability to "set and forget". My Corsair lighting hub has this and it's really nice. Install iCue, tweak the RGB until you have it the way you want, save the profile to the controller hub, uninstall software and enjoy. Controller just loads the profile you saved to the flash chip automatically upon boot up, and even lets you save a "everything off" profile too. Removes the need to have something running in the background cause it's all handled internally by the hub.

 

[maxfly]

So we've devolved into the, "lets bitch and moan about RGB" phase.
I just built a new rig. 2 parts have RGB with no physical means with which to turn them off. The memory and 3 fans. Yes, RGB freedom is out there, it can be done if you choose wisely. And you don't have to cut corners!

GPU- has a physical ON/OFF switch integrated in the heatsink. Which controls the single, (yes single) RGB fan and nameplate.
GPU block- no rgb unless I connect the strip AND it comes with a remote.
CPU block- no RGB.
Reservoir- no rgb unless I connect the strip AND it comes with a remote.
MB- no RGB. GASP

Ram- RGB.
Case fans- 3 are RGB.
The 7 others are noctua ippc 2000s with RGB frames. Case has RGB strips framing the window. All set to a relaxing blue. Nothing to it, set it and forget it. I've only had to reset the memory once.

Live and let live. Or bitch and moan about something you can change quite easily during your next upgrade

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Just gonna leave this here. From the point where the video starts at 11:40 to 11:50

 

[lightning70]

Here is a good development.

 

[Avro Arrow]

This would be great... except that it's Windows 11.

 

[Deleted member 211755]

This would be great... except that it's Windows 11.

Turns out that 11, just like 10,
isn't all that bad after you get rid of all the bloatware,
unnecessary features,
telemetry
and when you set up a good firewall on top of that.

I mean, it's just like 10,
just looks kind of different. haha

 

[chrcoluk]

Turns out that 11, just like 10,
isn't all that bad after you get rid of all the bloatware,
unnecessary features,
telemetry
and when you set up a good firewall on top of that.

I mean, it's just like 10,
just looks kind of different. haha

You shrug of the major UI differences as if they nothing.

 

[Deleted member 211755]

You shrug of the major UI differences as if they nothing.

That's because I customized it and I like it.
It's easier for me to work in Win11 than ever before in Win10.
Win10 didn't even snap windows how I wanted it to.

Look, I was one of those who were saying they'll not use 11 until at least 10 is supported,
even went that far by saying not to use it even after it ends.
I have multiple systems, multiple OSs.
But 11 was great once I've given it a chance, optimized it how I want to.
But I must say, either of Linux Mint distros works better for me.
That's my favorite OS in the end.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Turns out that 11, just like 10,
isn't all that bad after you get rid of all the bloatware,
unnecessary features,
telemetry
and when you set up a good firewall on top of that.

I mean, it's just like 10,
just looks kind of different. haha

So they managed to fix all the bugs? I remember reading that, in the beginning, there were games that wouldn't run on W11. Long ago I made a rule for myself when it came to Microsoft products:

"NEVER be an early adopter!"

The longer you stick with the previous version of Windows, the better the next one will be because it will have had time for MS to fix all of their screwups with it. I stuck with W7 long enough that I never had to actually use W8. Microsoft fixed that screwup by releasing W10.

 

[Deleted member 211755]

So they managed to fix all the bugs? I remember reading that, in the beginning, there were games that wouldn't run on W11. Long ago I made a rule for myself when it came to Microsoft products:

"NEVER be an early adopter!"

The longer you stick with the previous version of Windows, the better the next one will be because it will have had time for MS to fix all of their screwups with it. I stuck with W7 long enough that I never had to actually use W8. Microsoft fixed that screwup by releasing W10.

The biggest bugs I heard of were explorer.exe memory leak and AMD CPU performance crippling.
I have an AMD CPU, everything's fine and there are no memory leaks.
I found in fact that 11 manages memory better than 10.

I've been using 11 for some time now and really it's great.
I've been running old apps on it, no problem, new apps, no problem.
I mean I am playing No one lives forever on it and that game is more than 20 years old.

I remember Win10 had problems too. I was one of the cry babies who weren't supposed to switch to 11.
But I did and I'm glad I did.

The only OSs from Microsoft I skipped were Vista, 8 and 8.1

 

[Madrik79]

The biggest bugs I heard of were explorer.exe memory leak and AMD CPU performance crippling.
I have an AMD CPU, everything's fine and there are no memory leaks.
I found in fact that 11 manages memory better than 10.

I've been using 11 for some time now and really it's great.
I've been running old apps on it, no problem, new apps, no problem.
I mean I am playing No one lives forever on it and that game is more than 20 years old.

I remember Win10 had problems too. I was one of the cry babies who weren't supposed to switch to 11.
But I did and I'm glad I did.

The only OSs from Microsoft I skipped were Vista, 8 and 8.1

That's due to the AMD Ryzen bugs being fixed. I made the jump from 10 to 11 a few months back, initially there was a few driver issues but searching the web corrected those. My only bug bear is the amount of window processes that are running in the background, i have even got rid of the stuff i will never use. I'm using SignalRGB as openRGB hasn't got any presets available for my RGB mouse pad or for my Harpoon pro mouse, cant use the same preset for the keyboard on all corsair devices cus they just all turn black. TBH tho iCue isn't all that bad regarding resources used if you don't use the Mural feature. but get better visuals with SignalRGB

 

[Mussels]

I ran into several bugs with ryzen CPU's like the x3D, where i had to load optimised defaults after a CPU switch

I get the feeling some of these early bugs were actually BIOS related, and not windows 11 at all

 

[Madrik79]

I ran into several bugs with ryzen CPU's like the x3D, where i had to load optimised defaults after a CPU switch

I get the feeling some of these early bugs were actually BIOS related, and not windows 11 at all

The only bug I was aware of was the cache latency but MS fixed that not long after launch, but some of the early issue were defo Agesa code related, still some issues now with certain hardware with Ryzen chipsets due to how AMD implemented PCI-E 4.0 if you have a AE series audio card you have to force gen 3 as they don’t work with gen 4 selected so that’s why I’m holding if switching to Ryzen

 

[Mussels]

The only bug I was aware of was the cache latency but MS fixed that not long after launch, but some of the early issue were defo Agesa code related, still some issues now with certain hardware with Ryzen chipsets due to how AMD implemented PCI-E 4.0 if you have a AE series audio card you have to force gen 3 as they don’t work with gen 4 selected so that’s why I’m holding if switching to Ryzen

those problems were long fixed, ryzen 3000 wouldnt give a display on nvidia 600 and 700 series GPUs without forcing PCI-E 2.0 and that's been working fine for years now
Just like how intel had issues with the 40 series nvidia cards not working without a BIOS udpate first

That cache latency issue is what i was referring to - i've noticed AIDA64 just gives erratic results if you have core isolation enabled in 11 or 10 (requires SVM enabled in BIOS) while other programs and games seem unaffected, but reviewers changing CPU's without loading defaults were also having issues and went to the effort of reinstalling windows and having issues even after doing so, when loading defaults in the BIOS could have been the problem all along