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The Biden-Harris Administration through the U.S. Department of Commerce's National Institute of Standards and Technology today launched the first CHIPS for America funding opportunity for manufacturing incentives to restore U.S. leadership in semiconductor manufacturing, support good-paying jobs across the semiconductor supply chain, and advance U.S. economic and national security.

As part of the bipartisan CHIPS and Science Act, the Department of Commerce is overseeing $50 billion to revitalize the U.S. semiconductor industry, including $39 billion in semiconductor incentives. The first funding opportunity seeks applications for projects to construct, expand, or modernize commercial facilities for the production of leading-edge, current-generation, and mature-node semiconductors. This includes both front-end wafer fabrication and back-end packaging. The Department will also be releasing a funding opportunity for semiconductor materials and equipment facilities in the late spring, and one for research and development facilities in the fall.




The CHIPS and Science Act presents a historic opportunity to unleash the next generation of American innovation, protect our national security, and preserve our global economic competitiveness," said Secretary of Commerce Gina M. Raimondo. "When we have finished implementing CHIPS for America, we will be the premier destination in the world where new leading-edge chip architectures can be invented in our research labs, designed for every end-use application, manufactured at scale and packaged with the most advanced technologies. Throughout our work, we are committed to protecting taxpayer dollars, strengthening America's workforce and giving America's businesses a platform to do what they do best: innovate, scale and compete."

The CHIPS and Science Act is part of President Biden's economic plan to invest in America, stimulating private sector investment, creating good-paying jobs, making more in the United States, and revitalizing communities left behind.

CHIPS for America also today released a "Vision for Success," laying out strategic objectives building on the vision Secretary Raimondo shared in her speech last week at Georgetown University's School of Foreign Service. To advance U.S. economic and national security, the Department aims to reach the following goals by the end of the decade: (1) make the U.S. home to at least two, new large-scale clusters of leading-edge logic chip fabs, (2) make the U.S. home to multiple, high-volume advanced packaging facilities, (3) produce high-volume leading-edge memory chips, and (4) increase production capacity for current-generation and mature-node chips, especially for critical domestic industries. Read more about these goals in the Vision for Success paper here.

The first funding opportunity details the application process and outlines how the Department will evaluate applications, including a primary focus on how projects advance U.S. economic and national security. Applications will also be evaluated for commercial viability, financial strength, technical feasibility and readiness, workforce development, and efforts to spur inclusive economic growth. Starting today, the Department strongly encourages all potential applicants, including those for future funding opportunities, to submit statements of interest so it may gauge interest across the semiconductor ecosystem and begin preparing for application review. Read more about the application and evaluation process here.

Awards will take the form of direct funding, federal loans, and/or federal guarantees of third-party loans. Awards are designed to complement—not replace—private investment and other sources of funding, and applicants are strongly encouraged to bring capital to the table. CHIPS for America awards will be made as soon as applications can be rigorously evaluated and negotiated.

Applicants are also encouraged to claim the Advanced Manufacturing Investment Credit (Investment Tax Credit) administered by the U.S. Department of the Treasury and the Internal Revenue Service. The Investment Tax Credit is a federal income tax credit for qualifying investments in facilities manufacturing semiconductors or semiconductor manufacturing equipment and a critical component of the suite of incentives provided by the CHIPS and Science Act. The Department of Commerce and the Department of the Treasury are coordinating closely on CHIPS funding and the Investment Tax Credit to ensure these incentives work together to further the Administration's economic and national security goals. The Department of the Treasury expects to publish guidance on the Investment Tax Credit in March, in addition with forthcoming Department of Commerce guidance on national security guardrails.

Key priorities that will guide the CHIPS for America program include:

  • Catalyzing Private Investment: CHIPS for America aims to spur private capital and investment, not replace it. CHIPS for America seeks to attract significant private capital and to create viable, scaled projects that advance U.S. economic and national security. The Department also encourages applicants to create ecosystems of suppliers, customers, and workforce training organizations that will make investments self-sustaining. Read more here.
  • Protecting Taxpayer Dollars: CHIPS for America will be good stewards of taxpayer dollars, using safeguards to ensure that companies receiving funding hold up their end of the bargain. The Department will conduct extensive due diligence to ensure it provides the minimum amount necessary to incentivize investment. In addition, the Department will evaluate applications based on the extent of the applicant's commitments to refrain from stock buybacks, and it will require recipients of more than $150 million in direct funding to share with the U.S. government a portion of any cash flows or returns that exceed the applicant's projections above an established threshold. Awards will be disbursed over time and tied to applicants meeting agreed-upon commitments and milestones. Read more here.
  • Building a Skilled and Diverse Workforce: Recruiting, training, and retaining a large, skilled, and diverse workforce will be critical to strengthening the U.S. semiconductor ecosystem. Companies seeking CHIPS funding will be required to submit workforce development plans for the workers who will operate their facilities and the workers who will build them, including plans to meet the Department of Commerce's and the Department of Labor's Good Jobs Principles. Applicants requesting over $150 million in direct funding must also submit plans to provide both their facility and construction workers with access to affordable, accessible, reliable, and high-quality child care. In addition, applicants are strongly encouraged to use project labor agreements for construction projects. Read more here.
  • Engaging with U.S. Partners and Allies: The Department will coordinate with international allies and partners to support a healthy global semiconductor ecosystem that drives innovation and is resilient to a range of disruptions, from cybersecurity threats to natural disasters and pandemics. This includes coordinating government incentive programs, building resilient cross-border semiconductor supply chains, promoting knowledge exchange and collaboration on future technologies, and implementing safeguards to protect national security. Read more here.
  • Driving Economic Opportunity and Inclusive Economic Growth: CHIPS for America is committed to building strong communities that share the prosperity of the semiconductor industry. The Department will look at whether applicants commit to future investments in the U.S. semiconductor industry, support R&D programs, and create opportunities for minority-owned, veteran-owned, women-owned, and small businesses. Applicants will also be assessed based on whether they demonstrate environmental responsibility and invest in their community.

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Sadly too late to save CenTaur, the last domestic x86 design and packaging lab that wasn't AMD or Intel. VIA somehow got away with taking their designs out of the country entirely, licensing everything to Shanghei's Zhoaxin, selling the CenTaur design team to Intel and liquidating the design and packaging facilities in Texas after 25 years of continued operation.
 
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Thank goodness for the criminal organization masquerading as a "government" giving money to Intel! Because they're clearly the ones hurting from their anti-consumer, anti-competitive anti-capitalist pro-cronyism behavior!

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Sadly too late to save CenTaur, the last domestic x86 design and packaging lab that wasn't AMD or Intel. VIA somehow got away with taking their designs out of the country entirely, licensing everything to Shanghei's Zhoaxin, selling the CenTaur design team to Intel and liquidating the design and packaging facilities in Texas after 25 years of continued operation.
It was a bit more complex than that, but to be honest I don't really know what happened at the very end at Centaur. I know some of the people that worked there and I asked around a bit, but they weren't willing to discuss it, so I left it at that. I do agree though that the whole Zhaoxin deal is very odd, as they somehow now have a fairly modern x86 design and Centaur wasn't allow to sell or license their x86 stuff, yet VIA flogged it off and nothing happened. I guess it's possible that Intel just didn't think it was worth making a fuss about it, since none of the parts can compete with their current hardware, even on the low-end. The new stuff Centaur was working on appears to have ended up at Intel though, so I guess that was one way to keep it away from the PRC.
 
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It was a bit more complex than that

Of course it was, but I'm not at the liberty to go into any details.

but they weren't willing to discuss it,

Nobody I've talked to is allowed to say anything on the matter. I've been told some of what happened, and been asked not to share. Those who stuck with the move to Intel enjoy their work still and I'm not trying to get anyone in trouble. I still think there is an injustice in the way things were handled and want it to be known that it happened more or less with little intervention from any side. CHIPS Act was in flight when this went down (July-November 2021) and it feels like an injustice that VIA was able to pull this trick during that time.

The new stuff Centaur was working on appears to have ended up at Intel though, so I guess that was one way to keep it away from the PRC.

For the most part some experimental stuff made the transition, but the latest design, CNS, did not. CNS went to Zhaoxin who has made their own changes to it and are shipping it as YongFeng. Really a shame.

Zhaoxin was also awarded a large sum of the patents for Glenn's neural processing logic and designs which they have iterated in tandem but haven't yet implemented. Don't believe Intel got any of these.
 
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Maybe they should just force a stupid tax on import tech products like the newest phones, latest hardware or items not built here until it levels the market.

There's no 3nm chip factory in anywhere in the USA and it will take 5 to 10 years for us to build one. And by then, more advanced tech will exist.

This is a good first step towards domestic manufacturing of these critical parts. Fortunately, Taiwan / TSMC is building a fab in Arizona, as it matches their strategic interests as well (and they started a few years ago. With any luck, that will be producing chips soon). So we're fixing some of these problems. But having a USA-owned corporation building these chips would be preferable.

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Taxing other chips doesn't solve the issue. Building factories solves the issue.

Case in point, lemme list all 'foreign' (aka, Taiwan or Korean) chips. That's every AMD chip (Zen, GPU, XBox and PS5), NVidia GPU, Ethernet adapter Mellanox, Jetson Nano, Nintendo Switch, iPhone, Snapdragon, and Intel GPU.

What does taxing the entirety of the market even accomplish? We don't even have any domestic production available for 3nm or 5nm chips. There's literally no US manufacturer who would benefit from such a tax. You'd just raise the price of computers by this foreign tax.
 
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There's no 3nm chip factory in anywhere in the USA and it will take 5 to 10 years for us to build one. And by then, more advanced tech will exist.

This is a good first step towards domestic manufacturing of these critical parts. Fortunately, Taiwan / TSMC is building a fab in Arizona, as it matches their strategic interests as well (and they started a few years ago. With any luck, that will be producing chips soon). So we're fixing some of these problems. But having a USA-owned corporation building these chips would be preferable.

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Taxing other chips doesn't solve the issue. Building factories solves the issue.

Case in point, lemme list all 'foreign' (aka, Taiwan or Korean) chips. That's every AMD chip (Zen, GPU, XBox and PS5), NVidia GPU, Ethernet adapter Mellanox, Jetson Nano, Nintendo Switch, iPhone, Snapdragon, and Intel GPU.

What does taxing the entirety of the market even accomplish? We don't even have any domestic production available for 3nm or 5nm chips. There's literally no US manufacturer who would benefit from such a tax. You'd just raise the price of computers by this foreign tax.


Taxing does work, look at all the companies escaping California....

Taxation forces those who want the things to pay the true cost, be it computer chips, cheap plastic goods, import food, sports cars, yachts, private planes. Explain how Taxing every console, smartphone, TV, chip for cars, etc being taxed isnt more fair than just forcing everyone to pay for market inequality.
 
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I'm glad to see their trying to head off a lot of the potential money grabbing people were worried about.
I know the wheels turn slooow in government but lets get a move on. The sooner we attain even a modicum of fab independence the better!

Its truly sad (and predictable) how some are incapable of anything more than weak attempts at politicizing the CHIPS act whenever a new article is posted.
 
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This went through god knows how many sessions in congress over at least months (if not years) since being conceived, will almost certainly do nothing for actually expanding chip manufacturing in the US, and will almost certainly be used for executive bonuses and stock buybacks. Meanwhile the federal government has sent over a hundred billion dollars to Ukraine - more than twice as much as this act - at the drop of a hat. No debate. No "is this good for the public?" Just siphoned that money and sent it to fund billionaires in a foreign country. Very legit.
 
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Sadly too late to save CenTaur, the last domestic x86 design and packaging lab that wasn't AMD or Intel. VIA somehow got away with taking their designs out of the country entirely, licensing everything to Shanghei's Zhoaxin, selling the CenTaur design team to Intel and liquidating the design and packaging facilities in Texas after 25 years of continued operation.
You got some things wrong. VIA bought Cyrix and Centaur in the late 90s. It had both designs teams compete for the next generation chip and Centaur won. These became the VIA NANO which never amounted to anything in the grand scheme of things. The thing is that Cyrix in the 90s was about to win a lawsuit against Intel and when Intel realized this they freaked out because they could be getting a monopoly lawsuit so they gave Cyrix an official x86 license plus unlike the one AMD had there was no stipulation that if the company got bought by another they would lose the license (reason why no one can buy AMD or own more than 49.99 percent of the stock). VIA bought Cyrix and got this special license passed to them. They had no money of course and eventually licensed their x86 license to some mainland China company. It is a shame that no American or Western tech company decided to buy Cyrix/Centaur and allowed a Taiwanese company to take a valuable license to Asia
 
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You got some things wrong. VIA bought Cyrix and Centaur in the late 90s. It had both designs teams compete for the next generation chip and Centaur won. These became the VIA NANO which never amounted to anything in the grand scheme of things. The thing is that Cyrix in the 90s was about to win a lawsuit against Intel and when Intel realized this they freaked out because they could be getting a monopoly lawsuit so they gave Cyrix an official x86 license plus unlike the one AMD had there was no stipulation that if the company got bought by another they would lose the license (reason why no one can buy AMD or own more than 49.99 percent of the stock). VIA bought Cyrix and got this special license passed to them. They had no money of course and eventually licensed their x86 license to some mainland China company. It is a shame that no American or Western tech company decided to buy Cyrix/Centaur and allowed a Taiwanese company to take a valuable license to Asia

I didn't get anything wrong, not sure why you think that. We're not talking about Cyrix. CenTaur existed and designed x86 CPUs using VIA's license for 22 years, and to say Nano "never amounted to anything" is so incredibly far removed from reality it leads me to believe you're trolling.

Facts remain that in 2021 the only three x86 design labs on US soil still pumping out new CPUs/SoCs were Intel, AMD, and CenTaur through VIA.
 
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Taxing does work, look at all the companies escaping California....

Taxation forces those who want the things to pay the true cost, be it computer chips, cheap plastic goods, import food, sports cars, yachts, private planes. Explain how Taxing every console, smartphone, TV, chip for cars, etc being taxed isnt more fair than just forcing everyone to pay for market inequality.

Please tell me how taxing will solve the issue of Taiwan potentially being attacked by China with all that it entails regarding getting those chips.
 
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This is nice. Chip making is a huge part of Connecticut. We need more workers and hopefully better pay incentivizes more workers to pursue that avenue.
 

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This went through god knows how many sessions in congress over at least months (if not years) since being conceived, will almost certainly do nothing for actually expanding chip manufacturing in the US, and will almost certainly be used for executive bonuses and stock buybacks. Meanwhile the federal government has sent over a hundred billion dollars to Ukraine - more than twice as much as this act - at the drop of a hat. No debate. No "is this good for the public?" Just siphoned that money and sent it to fund billionaires in a foreign country. Very legit.
If you'd read the press release, you would've seen that stock buybacks are not allowed, although I guess it would be hard to enforce.
 
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If you'd read the press release, you wouldv'e seen that stock buybacks are not allowed, although I guess it would be hard to enforce.
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Yep just creative accounting another company comes to mind that has been doing the same creative account for decades and basically been bankrupt without gov funds.
 
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I wonder how much of this money will go towards what companies are already doing. All they have to do is fill out some extra paperwork so they can dip their hands into this pot of money. A cash grab that won't really change anything.
 
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Yeah didn't intel just ask Germany for more bucks for more creative accounting

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Cynical comment about executive profit is understandable but they've restricted stock buybacks and such I read though not as much as some like Sen Warren wanted.
 
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This is government funding to bring back chip making to the USA. Sure you can criticize that the top 1% will get richer from getting incentives from Manufacuring more in the USA. You could also say that a bunch more USA workers have jobs and we're exporting important goods to boost our economy.
 
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