Overclock in low end H610 Intel chipset + alder lake

[Lucky8]

While it is true you can't unblock BCLK in low end motherboards ( no external pw modulator ) , it seems possible to achieve OC in CPU with an unlocked Gigabyte BIOS. Unlocking is achieved within UEFI itself and requires no external mods.

The performance increase is massive ( double FPS on iGPU ) , with a slight ( not so ) frequency increase. The temperature rise is ... well, non existent . The only reason I'm not pushing further this humble G6900 is because I have no fucking clue of OC other than the basics. But feel free to try if you have some spare bucks and share your results !

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Here's my results.

 

[Alain De Loin]

So this celeron is more than twice as fast single core than my i7 6950x @ 4300 with ddr4 3200
My score is 894

 

[Deleted member 185158]

So this celeron is more than twice as fast single core than my i7 6950x @ 4300 with ddr4 3200
My score is 894

Well thats not the stock score for the G6900, it was overclocked to around 5.3ghz on Asus B660-G which has an external clock generator.

 

[Alain De Loin]

I know, I read your post,

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I know, I read your post,

RIght, well I wasn't clear when I posted..... Just to be sure type of reply

Crazy though, isn't that 6950X some 20 threads?

 

[Alain De Loin]

Yeap, When I read your post, I was in the process of unpacking the MSI z790 Pro A ddr4 and i5 13600, I did a quick benchmark to compare this 6950x with your celeron. Now I have a new toy installed. My wife already knows that this weekend I am not there for anyone

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Yeap, When I read your post, I was in the process of unpacking the MSI z790 Pro A ddr4 and i5 13600, I did a quick benchmark to compare this 6950x with your celeron. Now I have a new toy installed. My wife already knows that this weekend I am not there for anyone

HAHA, I do that a lot. Drives the wife mad sometimes.....

Should have went with DDR5 to make that 13600 shine (imo). I know my 13700K is quite fast from the box. 13600K I (had) was really stable at 5.5ghz with reasonable v-core.

 

[Alain De Loin]

I know, but I already had a set of ddr4 3200. Ddr5 is still too expensive, and my wallet also has its limits. In addition, it turned out that my PSU Seasonic 850W Gold has only one output to power the processor, so this will be the next purchase.

 

[r9]

HAHA, I do that a lot. Drives the wife mad sometimes.....

Should have went with DDR5 to make that 13600 shine (imo). I know my 13700K is quite fast from the box. 13600K I (had) was really stable at 5.5ghz with reasonable v-core.

Wives are overrated anyways.

Honey if you reading this I was joking. Love you!

 

[Deleted member 185158]

I know, but I already had a set of ddr4 3200. Ddr5 is still too expensive, and my wallet also has its limits. In addition, it turned out that my PSU Seasonic 850W Gold has only one output to power the processor, so this will be the next purchase.

I know. I bought a 16gb kit when it was pretty fresh released. It was like 169$. I should have waited, but the board I wanted (Asus ROG B660-G) only supports DDR5 and was less than 300 bucks, where the next best board to support BCLK is the Hero at over 600

 

[Alain De Loin]

Something seems to me that it will be a hard night, the system does not start when I turn on the XMP profile, I installed the latest version of the bios. It's a bit strange, the same memories worked without a problem on the previous motherboard, x99a Raider.

 

[Deleted member 185158]

Something seems to me that it will be a hard night, the system does not start when I turn on the XMP profile, I installed the latest version of the bios. It's a bit strange, the same memories worked without a problem on the previous motherboard, x99a Raider.

MSI is not my first choice on the besides its a pretty entry level board. The cpu memory controller is not the issue, Intel has that perfected....

 

[Alain De Loin]

As I wrote earlier, I switched from x99 where the bios was rather simple, here I have a lot of options that even reading the description to them, absolutely do not tell me anything. Purely theoretically, I should turn on xmp and it should work. But this does not happen.
I chose this motherboard, because the earlier I also had from this company, besides it was relatively cheap, has 80A power supply for the processor and in addition Amazon in France has some problem with the IT system and stubbornly claims that the motherboard that I just mounted, cannot be delivered to me because it is lost so they return my money So you see, I can't complain too much

 

[Lucky8]

BTW , the BIOS has so many features. Countless that I'm even afraid of some of those settings.

http://imgur.com/a/wzvuzRp

 

[Alain De Loin]

You're right, but it seems to me that a large part of these options do not change anything or almost nothing. Coming back to my memory problem, around midnight I came to the conclusion that another liter of coffee wouldn't change anything and I decided to sleep with the problem. I just woke up and remembered that while browsing the internet for information about the motherboard, I came across a post with a similar problem. So I put in only two ddr4 modules, set XMP, changed the settings for informing about the memory configuration change, saved, restarted, turned off, installed the other two modules, started and works

 

[Lucky8]

I decided to sleep with the problem.

Another wife joke?

There must be 200 entries if not more about memory in BIOS but it is true there isn't much about XMP profiles. However, you should always resets BIOS after you install , upgrade or update it. XMP profiles relies very much on the set voltage

 

[Alain De Loin]

No, it's not another joke I'm Polish, and that's an expression that says I spent too much time solving this problem and I was too tired. So, I decided to think about it the next day.
The methodology as I used it, bios reset, modules installation, XMP activation. There's probably no other way to do it. As I wrote, when I run XMP on two modules, everything works, then I turn off the computer, add two modules before disabling the options that signal a change in memory configuration and force me to re-enter the bios, restart the computer and it works. However, when I decide to re-enter the bios, I have to go through these procedures all over again. Otherwise, the system does not boot or displays an overclocking memory error message. I'm just wondering, a lot of posts on the internet say that four modules of memory are too much load for the memory controller. We send probes that can land on asteroids and such situations can immobilize the computer?

By the way, there's not much point in switching from an i7 6950x to an i5 13600 if you have a RTX 3070 and 60fps at 2K is enough for you. Well, unless you have a whim, you want Win11/12 and generally like to solve problems with a new platform.

 

[Lucky8]

I'm just wondering, a lot of posts on the internet say that four modules of memory are too much load for the memory controller.

Certainly not but as stated before I don't know much about OC. Except the every memory module need training and would take some time to complete

 

[Alain De Loin]

Training, I'm not in the subject, do you mean that the electronic system must work for some time to achieve the assumed efficiency?
If so, that's interesting, I'll have to read up on it a bit.
But I bought my ddr4 modules used, and in addition, they were installed in my X99a Raider for several weeks, where they worked with XMP 3200 without hesitation.
But the most interesting thing about all this is that now, i.e. for about two hours, my modules started to get along with the motherboard / CPU, so now without doing any spells they just work as they should. I don't know what it is/was caused by, but after a few restarts, XMP works fine. So, if I understood correctly the sentence in which you write about training, it turns out that my motherboard and my processor also needed time to communicate with ddr4. I pulled both of these items out of their original boxes yesterday.

 

[Lucky8]

Training, I'm not in the subject, do you mean that the electronic system must work for some time to achieve the assumed efficiency?
If so, that's interesting, I'll have to read up on it a bit.
But I bought my ddr4 modules used, and in addition, they were installed in my X99a Raider for several weeks, where they worked with XMP 3200 without hesitation.
But the most interesting thing about all this is that now, i.e. for about two hours, my modules started to get along with the motherboard / CPU, so now without doing any spells they just work as they should. I don't know what it is/was caused by, but after a few restarts, XMP works fine. So, if I understood correctly the sentence in which you write about training, it turns out that my motherboard and my processor also needed time to communicate with ddr4. I pulled both of these items out of their original boxes yesterday.

Yes. Although again I'm not an expert, it takes a boot or two for the motherboard to pass some tests on the memory modules. All those tests are performed automatically . XMP profiles should intervene and help the motherboard provide whatever the module request but it still check its capabilities .

 

[Alain De Loin]

Well, the matter was clarified, I did not know that it was so complicated. It seemed to me, since the XMP profile is certified, it should work right away. I learned something again. Thanks

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

While it is true you can't unblock BCLK in low end motherboards ( no external pw modulator ) , it seems possible to achieve OC in CPU with an unlocked Gigabyte BIOS. Unlocking is achieved within UEFI itself and requires no external mods.

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The performance increase is massive ( double FPS on iGPU ) , with a slight ( not so ) frequency increase. The temperature rise is ... well, non existent . The only reason I'm not pushing further this humble G6900 is because I have no fucking clue of OC other than the basics. But feel free to try if you have some spare bucks and share your results !

where is the overclock?

 

[Lucky8]

Where like "where to get it" or where "I don't see it"

 

[WhenMusicAttacks]

Where like "where to get it" or where "I don't see it"

I see no overclock, as the frequency in hwinfo is still 3.4 max, same as stock