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Anyone With Crucial MX500 (500GB) (M3CR045 Firmware) Having Very High FTL Program Page Count ??!!

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i got my MX500 (500GB) (M3CR045 firmware) on 15/3/23 and connected to the PC via USB - it's not detected by 'My Computer' but detected by Crucial Storage Executive + Speccy + CrystalDiskInfo + HD Sentinel........

After 6 hours (unused) the FTL Program page count is 2866 while Host Program page count is just 2 !! ...........2+ hours later, the FTL Program page count went to 3013 while Host Program page count is only 6............!!.............Total Writes is just 20.48KB...........so does this mean the memory cells will wear out much faster than normal ??

could it be that the FTL Program page count is so high due to HD Tune scan and Crucial Storage Executive extended self-test with reads and writes ??

This SSD has M3CR045 firmware (i heard this firmware has serious issues) so should i update to M3CR046 firmware ?

i also have 2 other MX500 (250GB) - both with M3CR043 firmware and working fine, should i update both of them to M3CR046 firmware ?
 

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Lots to unpack here it looks like.

first pages and amount written are not going to equally coincide.

second nothing about that attribute has anything to do with wear or “nand wear out”

third, if it’s not used upgrade the firmware anyway? Why would you not if the disk isn’t in service?

anyway

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many thanks for your reply...................i'm a novice when it comes to computer stuff............

so it's okay to update to latest firmware ?

also, based on the Write Amplification calculations.............it would be over 500 times for this SSD then ??!!

i got my MX500 (500GB) (M3CR045 firmware) on 15/3/23 and connected to the PC via USB - it's not detected by 'My Computer' but detected by Crucial Storage Executive + Speccy + CrystalDiskInfo + HD Sentinel........

After 6 hours (unused) the FTL Program page count is 2866 while Host Program page count is just 2 !! ...........2+ hours later, the FTL Program page count went to 3013 while Host Program page count is only 6............!!.............Total Writes is just 20.48KB...........so does this mean the memory cells will wear out much faster than normal ??

could it be that the FTL Program page count is so high due to HD Tune scan and Crucial Storage Executive extended self-test with reads and writes ??

This SSD has M3CR045 firmware (i heard this firmware has serious issues) so should i update to M3CR046 firmware ?

i also have 2 other MX500 (250GB) - both with M3CR043 firmware and working fine, should i update both of them to M3CR046 firmware ?


no other experts have any advice for me ?
 
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First, it looks like you have posted this question on multiple sites besides this one, including Reddit and MajorGeeks. Make sure you revisit every site with updates as it is considered bad forum etiquette to leave threads dangling.

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I am not seeing an issue here. The FTL (flash translation layer) performs many functions, including mapping for NTFS (formatting) data, garbage collection, wear-leveling, error correction, bad block management and more. These functions are active whenever power is applied to the SSD. And some of these functions happen again (are refreshed) every time the SSD is powered up again.

This is all part of the process and protocols used to prepare the disk for data storage, and to maintain and optimize the disk for performance and longevity.

I see nothing wrong or even slightly concerning in your screenshot. Neither does CrystalDiskInfo. I say stop fussing over nothing and enjoy your SSD. Just don't forget to close out all your open threads at each site you went to.
 

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First, it looks like you have posted this question on multiple sites besides this one, including Reddit and MajorGeeks. Make sure you revisit every site with updates as it is considered bad forum etiquette to leave threads dangling.

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I am not seeing an issue here. The FTL (flash translation layer) performs many functions, including mapping for NTFS (formatting) data, garbage collection, wear-leveling, error correction, bad block management and more. These functions are active whenever power is applied to the SSD. And some of these functions happen again (are refreshed) every time the SSD is powered up again.

This is all part of the process and protocols used to prepare the disk for data storage, and to maintain and optimize the disk for performance and longevity.

I see nothing wrong or even slightly concerning in your screenshot. Neither does CrystalDiskInfo. I say stop fussing over nothing and enjoy your SSD. Just don't forget to close out all your open threads at each site you went to.


ok, many thanks.............good to know nothing is wrong...........but how to close the threads ?..............should i delete them ?
 
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You likely cannot delete them. Besides, that does not help anyone else who might wonder the same as you.

I recommend you just reply to each with a statement indicating you have learned that "FTL activity is normal and is used to perform many functions, including SSD garbage collection, wear-leveling and more - functions that optimize performance SSD and enhance longevity."

In fact, you can just copy and paste that, if you want.
 
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