AMD to Release Threadripper 7000 and TR5 Platform in the Second Half of 2023

[btarunr]

AMD is preparing a rather late counter to the Xeon W-2400 and W-3400 series "Sapphire Rapids" workstation platform with the Threadripper 7000 series and the Socket TR5 platform, in the second half of 2023, according to an ASUS product manager. While high core-count Threadripper Pro 5000WX processors still offer performance competitive to the latest Xeon W processors, the Intel platform offers the latest I/O, including support for faster DDR5 memory and PCIe Gen 5. The expectation with the Threadripper 7000 "Storm Peak" series is to increase CPU core IPC with the switch to "Zen 4," and introduce support for the latest DDR5 and PCIe Gen 5.

AMD's delay in releasing the Threadripper 7000 series has to do with the company wanting to push more high-margin EPYC "Genoa" processors to its large enterprise customers first; and possibly to take the time to redraw its platform to better counter the sub-classification Intel introduced within its Xeon W family, where the W-2400 series is targeted more toward the HEDT consumer, with its 4-channel memory and 64-lane PCIe interface; while the W-3400 series with its 8-channel memory interface, targets serious workstation use-cases; while both processors share a common socket and chipset. AMD could take a similar approach to the TR5 platform.



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[Minus Infinity]

LOL, yeah TR cpu's are bargain basement and in no way high margin.

 

[Chaitanya]

LOL, yeah TR cpu's are bargain basement and in no way high margin.

They definitely were low margin chips compared to WS(TR Pro) and Server(Epyc) class chips.

 

[Space Lynx]

with 7950x as powerful as it is, i really don't know who threadripper is really meant for anymore. big servers will use EPYC, small servers will be just fine with 7950x,so i guess medium sized servers is where TR comes in?

 

[Quitessa]

Let's see if they actually Support the socket this time
They F'd up BIG time with the TR4 even though they supported the AM4 from beggining to end

 

[Minus Infinity]

They definitely were low margin chips compared to WS(TR Pro) and Server(Epyc) class chips.

LOL TR 5995WX 64 core ~ $7K US vs Epyc Milan 64 core about $7-8KUS (non v-cache models).

 

[Dirt Chip]

with 7950x as powerful as it is, i really don't know who threadripper is really meant for anymore. big servers will use EPYC, small servers will be just fine with 7950x,so i guess medium sized servers is where TR comes in?

Not server- serious video edit and 3d modelling. They need >128GB RAM sometimes with full ECC support, multi-GPU support plus many PCIE4/5 lances for other add in cards.
ZEN4 or RL I\O to this segment is a joke.

It is good that they focus on their profit and give EYPC most of the resource, as long as TR7000 indeed will arrive withing 3-6 month. They will probably scramble-egg Sapphire Rapids but arriving too late will be a missed opportunity.

 

[Space Lynx]

Not server- serious video edit and 3d modelling. They need >128GB RAM with sometimes with full ECC support, multi-GPU support plus many PCIE4/5 lances for other add in cards.
ZEN4 or RL I\O to this segment is a joke.

It is good that they focus on their profit and give EYPC most of the resource, as long as TR7000 indeed will arrive withing 3-6 month. They will probably scramble-egg Sapphire Rapids but arriving too late will be a missed opportunity.

from what I understand that kind of stuff Intel always wins? I know linus tech tips did a video about how they tried AMD but just gave them so many headaches software side, they had to go back to Intel.

my guess is a lot of creator software benefits Intel, so this is really a DOA market for AMD which is why they don't really give it much attention?

 

[Dirt Chip]

from what I understand that kind of stuff Intel always wins? I know linus tech tips did a video about how they tried AMD but just gave them so many headaches software side, they had to go back to Intel.

my guess is a lot of creator software benefits Intel, so this is really a DOA market for AMD which is why they don't really give it much attention?

They are very capable and prefferd alternative to Intel in this segment (pugetsystems.com):
"Overall, the new AMD Threadripper PRO 5000 WX-Series processors are terrific for a wide range of content creation applications. Across the board, they are anywhere from moderately to significantly faster than the previous generation Threadripper PRO 3000 WX-Series, and handily beat their main competition from Intel: the Xeon W-3300 series. Even better, unlike the Xeon W line, the 5000WX processors rarely needed to use the "High Performance" power profile in order to get the best performance."

TR 5000WX also hold against the new Sapphire Rapids in some cases.

The area where it is very single sided is NV-AMD GPU front. CUDA is a must in many workstation\HEDT cases so NV is the only option (but that is a bit off-topic).

 

[ZoneDymo]

from what I understand that kind of stuff Intel always wins? I know linus tech tips did a video about how they tried AMD but just gave them so many headaches software side, they had to go back to Intel.

my guess is a lot of creator software benefits Intel, so this is really a DOA market for AMD which is why they don't really give it much attention?

I have unsubscribed from Linus a while ago and happy about it

 

[RAINFIRE333]

I'm skipping ALL the AMD Ryzen 6000, 7000 & Epyc's with builtin Microsoft Pluton Security Processor. Collects all your GPG, SSH private keys with their p/w's and ALL passwords and is completely readable and updatable by Microsoft at any time you have network capability. They purposely have a broken OpenSSH agent, still in 2023 in 10, 11, Server & WSL that Windows Update won't update and have to get by obscure github link if you know about it. I don't have private keys on any Windows or Linux machines anymore because Self-Custody works when it's fixed. Self-determination and privacy are important to me. Qualcomm also has Pluton in new CPU's.

#USA #rootkit

F' the PoPo.

 

[kondamin]

I'm skipping ALL the AMD Ryzen 6000, 7000 & Epyc's with builtin Microsoft Pluton Security Processor. Collects all your GPG, SSH private keys with their p/w's and ALL passwords and is completely readable and updatable by Microsoft at any time you have network capability. They purposely have a broken OpenSSH agent, still in 2023 in 10, 11, Server & WSL that Windows Update won't update and have to get by obscure github link if you know about it. I don't have private keys on any Windows or Linux machines anymore because Self-Custody works when it's fixed. Self-determination and privacy are important to me. Qualcomm also has Pluton in new CPU's.

#USA #rootkit

F' the PoPo.

Will zen5 comme without?

 

[unwind-protect]

with 7950x as powerful as it is, i really don't know who threadripper is really meant for anymore. big servers will use EPYC, small servers will be just fine with 7950x,so i guess medium sized servers is where TR comes in?

They will probably offer higher clockspeeds than EPYC.

Workstations it is, especially with ATX format boards. Desktops.

If they release non-Pro Threadripper this time around you can also use unbuffered RAM, which theoretically should be cheaper than registered RAM (although in practice it often isn't).