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Yeah, and I hate to say this because I really don’t care about who’s actually doing it but for most people having technicians from overseas can make it very difficult on the average American. And again it sounds shitty saying that, but it’s just the honest truth. But I am one of those people where I want to see everyone do well, so hopefully they can get that resolved soon.

We order probably about $10 million worth of stuff a year from Dell everything from our servers to our workstations to our laptops. We give them a lot of business and I work at a pretty small university in Delaware. Personally at home I do have a precision 5810 which is a dual X 79 CPU system. I upgraded to 2E5 2640 V twos which are 8 core - 16threadsz I mean right now you can get some really amazing server CPUs for dirt cheap even on X79 and X 99. Now the E5 1600 series are more for workstations so they have higher clock speeds and the fE5 2600 series they’re more for servers and they have significantly lower clock speeds but they all are pretty great for the price. The only downfall to those is they are pretty power heavy in terms of consumption and a lot of the newer stuff is super low TDP. I do love Dell I always will. I have a ton of Optiplex small form factor 7040s 7050s and my favorite the 7060s and 7070 because they’re newer and you’re not limited t0 4 and eight threads but I must say that I think I like the Lenovo stuff a lot better. some of the new latitudes in terms of laptops that we have a great machines, hardware wise but little things like the trackpad’s never working the keyboards are just junk. Dell is not the company they want to wear all those saw it. I think Lenovo and I hate to say this, even HP might be a better choice at this point.
 
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Tech215Studios said:
Dell is not the company they want to wear all those saw it. I think Lenovo and I hate to say this, even HP might be a better choice at this point.
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I think you mean you have a 5610 at home lol. I've bought a few 8th and 9th gen latitudes lately. Don't have much time on them myself. I get them and set them up for friends and family. No one has come back to me with problems....yet. I have a t1700, 2 -t5810s, 7810 and a latitude e6430s as a daily. I have t1700s and e6430 ATGs at the shop. Pretty sure the 6430 atg or not is indestructible. I'm sorting hoping you've had a worse experience than most. I don't look forward to jumping ship. I've never been into Lenovo or HP.
 
Yeah, my guy gets so much OEM stuff and Lenny’s to me have been the best.

odddly enough to your point a co worker brought me his Lenovo AIO, beautiful machine. I7 10700, 32 GBs 3200, 1 TB NVMe drive. The thing kept freezing on him, The forums and Lenovo had hundreds with the same issue. But both Intel and Lenovo just threw their hands up.

I was able to get it to stop by turning sleep mode off. So to me after updates and research intel needs or Microsoft need to step in and resolve this. It’s a joke.

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Yeah, my guy gets so much OEM stuff and Lenny’s to me have been the best.

odddly enough to your point a co worker brought me his Lenovo AIO, beautiful machine. I7 10700, 32 GBs 3200, 1 TB NVMe drive. The thing kept freezing on him, The forums and Lenovo had hundreds with the same issue. But both Intel and Lenovo just threw their hands up.

I was able to get it to stop by turning sleep mode off. So to me after updates and research intel needs or Microsoft need to step in and resolve this. It’s a joke.
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I’m sorry I meant @frankr2994 point.
 
I don't know much at all about workstations. I guess I'm getting a little bored, I am looking at a DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 on Ebay, right now it's around $110.00 US. Is this a good unit,? if not, what would be comparable, or better for the dollar? I basically just surf the web, but I also like a little speed. I have a Asus P6T Deluxe V2...Xeon 5690 running @3.97 GHz with 16 gig or memory, it's as fast as my ASRock Z97 4790K with 32 gig of memory. As I said, I guess I'm just bored, and looking for something else, but not looking to sell the farm to purchase another unit. :D
 
I don’t know what apps or services you’re running so that would help. But In all honesty and I’m sure the 6700 czn still do alot of stuff well. I’m just not a fan of SkyLake and Kaby Lake CPUs anymore bc that’s the farthest they go. There’s zero upgrade path passed the 6700 and 7700.

now, although 8th & 9th Gen chips are technically still “Skylake” 14nm Cores and use them same socket 1151, they finally upped the core count on the i7 8700 6/12, 9900 8/16, as well as the i5’s going to 6 cores with no HT.
Essentially the new i3’s are the old i7’s but with better IPC. Thanks Lisa Su!!!!

I’d try to get a 2011-3 system but again I’m not sure if your workload. X99 xeons are so cheap, and have some of the best features for running a server environment.
 
Tech215Studios said:
I don’t know what apps or services you’re running so that would help. But In all honesty and I’m sure the 6700 czn still do alot of stuff well. I’m just not a fan of SkyLake and Kaby Lake CPUs anymore bc that’s the farthest they go. There’s zero upgrade path passed the 6700 and 7700.

now, although 8th & 9th Gen chips are technically still “Skylake” 14nm Cores and use them same socket 1151, they finally upped the core count on the i7 8700 6/12, 9900 8/16, as well as the i5’s going to 6 cores with no HT.
Essentially the new i3’s are the old i7’s but with better IPC. Thanks Lisa Su!!!!

I’d try to get a 2011-3 system but again I’m not sure if your workload. X99 xeons are so cheap, and have some of the best features for running a server environment.
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Thank you! I appreciate that.

Tech215Studios said:
I don’t know what apps or services you’re running so that would help. I’d try to get a 2011-3 system but again I’m not sure if your workload. X99 xeons are so cheap, and have some of the best features for running a server environment.
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99% of the time, this old dude "@71" just surfs the web and watches a lot of youtube videos, I like cars and computers.
 
Mr Bill said:
Thank you! I appreciate that.


99% of the time, this old dude "@71" just surfs the web and watches a lot of youtube videos, I like cars and computers.
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My go to for people like you is a t1700 sff or an optiplex 9020sff (same thing). 16gb of memory with an e3-1245v3 and a 2.5ssd. great little machines that seemingly never break and work just fine for daily use. I buy them bare for about 35 bucks and after it's all said and done it runs me about 150.
Of course depending on the price of that 3020 I have nothing against going newer. Even though thats still old lmao.
I'm big on x99 but there's no purpose for you to have that.
 
frankr2994 said:
My go to for people like you is a t1700 sff or an optiplex 9020sff (same thing). 16gb of memory with an e3-1245v3 and a 2.5ssd. great little machines that seemingly never break and work just fine for daily use. I buy them bare for about 35 bucks and after it's all said and done it runs me about 150.
Of course depending on the price of that 3020 I have nothing against going newer. Even though thats still old lmao.
I'm big on x99 but there's no purpose for you to have that.
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Thank you for all this advise, I really appreciate it.
 
lexluthermiester said:
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www.ebay.com

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Mr Bill said:
www.ebay.com

DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
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I don't see a fan on or around that heatsink, is it hidden? :D
 
frankr2994 said:
I think you mean you have a 5610 at home lol. I've bought a few 8th and 9th gen latitudes lately. Don't have much time on them myself. I get them and set them up for friends and family. No one has come back to me with problems....yet. I have a t1700, 2 -t5810s, 7810 and a latitude e6430s as a daily. I have t1700s and e6430 ATGs at the shop. Pretty sure the 6430 atg or not is indestructible. I'm sorting hoping you've had a worse experience than most. I don't look forward to jumping ship. I've never been into Lenovo or HP.
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Their current latitudes are also good.

The ones to avoid re the 5289, 7390, and 7410. the 5289 and 7390 were notorious for chewing up batteries and the 7410's wifi was borderline useless. Oh, and the latitude 3390, those blew motherboard charging circuits like candy.

I miss the E series. Those things were tanks that just ran forever. My step dad's E6410 was finally retired this year, replaced with a 5590 and no issues. The latitude 3310, 3330, and 5300 series have all been reliable without notable repairs or returns.

Lenovo is pretty good, their biggest issue is having 19 different series of laptops with slightly different specs, instead of one series of business laptops like dell. HP is supremely annoying, finding driver sis a friggin nightmare and they often (but not always) require proprietary HP brand chargers. And their printers are a total nightmare. Screw HP.

Mr Bill said:
www.ebay.com

DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
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It's skylake, so it wont be windows 11 compatible. Keep that in mind, especially since MS has not been shy in nagging users with unofficial 11 installs.
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I don't see a fan on or around that heatsink, is it hidden? :D
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The fan is the case fan. Dell didnt bother putting a shroud on these because this is the beginning of dell cheaping TF out on cooling. THIS is the garbage that was stock, that mini tower is an upgrade:

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Mr Bill said:
I don't see a fan on or around that heatsink, is it hidden? :D
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The fan is covered up. It is inbetween the two heatpipe fin arrays. You can see the fan power wires coming out of the bottom of the heatsink itself.

That system looks reasonable. Good price too. What do you intend to do with it? Use case scenario?

TheinsanegamerN said:
It's skylake, so it wont be windows 11 compatible.
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Sure it is. Windows 11 works perfectly on everything going back to the Core2 range at least. You just have to use a custom configured install ISO.
TheinsanegamerN said:
especially since MS has not been shy in nagging users with unofficial 11 installs.
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Easily disabled.
 
lexluthermiester said:
That system looks reasonable. Good price too. What do you intend to do with it? Use case scenario?
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My grandfather used to say when I ask him a question sometimes "I wished you wouldn't have ask me that". :D I don't have really a plan, probably just place it somewhere in my PC room, and admire it. No seriously, it would be just another box to add to the many I already have, but I might put it all in a new case, but not even sure I will buy it, just was looking for something else.
 
frankr2994 said:
I just keep stacking stuff without a place to actually use it.
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I can relate, I don't think you have a patent on that, but it is good to have a couple or 10 backup computers, right? :D
 
Mr Bill said:
It's amazing how some of the old school PC's and OS's are still in demand. I personally believe it has a lot to do with our economy in the US. I'm in the A/C business, and I still see businesses on some of my calls using windows 7, hopefully just for holding information and running programs like Excel. Word, etc. and not on the internet, but I'm not sure. I'm still using my 4th gen. 4790K build, and it's still great, and plenty DDR3 still out there new and used. The old school PC's if you set them up right, and can still get all the component's, are just as good if not better than the new stuff, "IMO" unless you're a gamer, "which I'm not". I also have a Xeon 5790 build with the Asus P6T Deluxe V2, I love it! :D
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I just got a T7910 with a win7 license sticker on it off ebay. Surprised me a little, but it was really good back in the day.
 
Tech215Studios said:
We order probably about $10 million worth of stuff a year from Dell everything from our servers to our workstations to our laptops. We give them a lot of business and I work at a pretty small university in Delaware. Personally at home I do have a precision 5810 which is a dual X 79 CPU system. I upgraded to 2E5 2640 V twos which are 8 core - 16threadsz I mean right now you can get some really amazing server CPUs for dirt cheap even on X79 and X 99. Now the E5 1600 series are more for workstations so they have higher clock speeds and the fE5 2600 series they’re more for servers and they have significantly lower clock speeds but they all are pretty great for the price. The only downfall to those is they are pretty power heavy in terms of consumption and a lot of the newer stuff is super low TDP.
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I had a TrueNAS machine trash a storage pool because of a bad memory stick, which turned me on to these old workstations. The cheap ones always come with 4 or 6 core cpus though, so I'm always swapping them out. The 2650 V4 seems nice for a lowish power server. I'm getting a couple 2683 V4 for a proxmox project, and I put together a win10 workstation with 2x 2690 V4 for the hell of it. Not to mention the 1650 V3 I'm using as a living room gaming PC. someone needs to stop me!

There are so many choices when it comes to 2011-3 socket Xeons!
 
Mr Bill said:
I don't know much at all about workstations. I guess I'm getting a little bored, I am looking at a DELL Precision 3620 Workstation i7-6700K 4.0GHz 32GB 512GB Nvme SSD DVD Win10 A1 on Ebay, right now it's around $110.00 US. Is this a good unit,? if not, what would be comparable, or better for the dollar? I basically just surf the web, but I also like a little speed. I have a Asus P6T Deluxe V2...Xeon 5690 running @3.97 GHz with 16 gig or memory, it's as fast as my ASRock Z97 4790K with 32 gig of memory. As I said, I guess I'm just bored, and looking for something else, but not looking to sell the farm to purchase another unit. :D
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Don't change anything. Your rig is great!
 
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