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X79 negative pressure test build

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It's been probably more than a year since I've contemplated on my idea of building and testing all negative pressure build.

Being in need of a more power hungry platform, it took some time until I've acquired the Gigabyte G1.Assassin 2 mobo, 3930K, NH-D14 and some irrelevant parts in one single purchase. My main rig (R5 3600, 5700XT), as well as my Gigabyte Z87X UD5H with Xeon E3 1241v3 and 1060 6GB were not suitable being a low power parts, and I wouldn't take apart my main rig for the sake of any experiments to be honest.

The Assassin 2 mobo is infamous being a member of the potentially burning Gigabyte X79 trio, along with UD3 and UD5. GB never made a revision of this boards, but tried to "solve" the problem of overheating VRMs by BIOS updates that soft locked the BIOS OC settings, and enforced the automatic voltage drop under heavy load.
Needlessly to say I was very disappointed finding this out after the purchase. Seeing the BIOS OC settings locked, I've put the board away and tried to get another one. After that deal failed, I gave it another chance and figured that even if the BIOS setting don't react to mouse clicking or the return key, it's possible to enter the numeric value and hit return... And so I've OC'ed my 3930K to 4.5GHz at 1.4V and left it there, as 4.6 required much higher voltage.
The CPU and CPU cooler are both lapped:
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My poor CM Q500L case have already gone trough one serious modification, this time going even further in effort to block all the possible holes, on a case that is massively perforated from a factory. Sisyphus work.
It's done by cutting the 3 pieces of aluminium ~3mm thick panels, and attaching them to the corresponding top, bottom and front case panels with pop threads.

Before I start to expand the story with a badly done photos, I'd like to point out that the purpose of this build isn't some magical cooling results (in the smallest ATX compatible case), nor an extra performance from a dead horse (3930K), but a bit different cooling philosophy made on a two simple rules: Unfiltered exhaust fans, single fanless filtered intake.

Covered front and top panels for a less dust accumulation when not in use:
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Made the stands from an aluminium square profiles with the goal to block the exaust air from directly reaching the intake. The expansion slots covers are taken from the old office PC cases, as the factory ones were perforated as well. You can also see the damage at the upper right corner of the front panel, the case fell off the "spraying hook"... And if it wasn't already reforced with additional panels and pop threads, it would be completely ruined. I've made the back I/O shield out of PVC sheet:
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Now the operating mode look:
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The intake design testing phase:
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The result:
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Take note that I've tried to make this out of the factory acrylic panel, but it died a terrible death in the process...
let's take a peek inside:
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Tiny fellas with the toughest duty:
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Cooling the barrel of a gun... Seriously, screw you Gigabyte. I just hope that whoever was responsible for the design of these heatsinks is already fired. Years ago.
For those who wonder what's the purpose of that F14 at the back of the case:
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Dear Lord my phone camera is disgusting... The particles got under the lenses. Anyway, the socket hole was a perfect fit for a 140mm fan. Nice toasty MOSFETs, aren't toasty anymore. Just look how much offset did the GB engineers made for the socket. Unbelievable, and the board is 2cm wider than the "standard" ATX ones. That's also the reason why the gap between the CPU cooler and the PSU is so small.
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And the reason why I had to make the fans pull, rather than push hot air from the CPU. The whole project was imagined with another board in mind, the X79 Sabertooth. The PSU still gets enough air, and the fan underneath helps pulling the air from it.
That thing below the Noctua is a 1060 with an inverted shroud:
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It's waiting 2 P12s for a true deshroud mod. It's meant to be replaced with a 5700XT from the main rig anyway.

There are other modifications which can't be seen, like the extension of the PSU factory cable (it was too short for this PSU orientation placement - input down, output up), patching the holes, etc.
Here's the HWInfo screenshot. Only the maximum values are relevant (for the temps anyway), and are collected while playing the Warzone 2.0 (DMZ) for about an hour, with an ambient temperature of around 25°C.

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Take note that the hottest VRM sensors, the 82 degrees ones, were reaching above 110 without both - the small twins and the 140mm fan, and around 105 without the 140mm fan, while all the others would go over 90 eventually. The GPU is used stock, and all the case fans are at fixed 50% of speed. That makes them run at around 680RPM. I'm fine with their sound, the 45mm ones on the other hand... they are FanControl's teritory. Set at the 20%.
The temps are 10+ degrees higher in the stress tests and synthetics, but that's not the point of this rig anyway. Its main purpose is to serve as a guest gaming PC.
Quality control gave the green light:
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All in all I'm satisfied with the results. The concept proved its usefulness and will be utilized in my future builds, including bigger, fully custom enclosures and much better ergonomics and design taste in mind.
Some leftovers:
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The rest of the info is in the system specs. Cheers.
 
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Updated the build with this beauty:

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Are those fans on the GPU.. pulling air?
 
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Yes, they are.
That's a pretty strange and suboptimal choice, it makes sense on a radiator but on a heatsink like that most of the pressure is lost, also the components on board will get very little airflow. It's fine on something that's not very high powered but otherwise this is not good.
 
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That's a pretty strange and suboptimal choice, it makes sense on a radiator but on a heatsink like that most of the pressure is lost, also the components on board will get very little airflow. It's fine on something that's not very high powered but otherwise this is not good.
I'm sure you haven't read my main post, because what you're saying doesn't make any sense.
 
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My main X79 rig is in a Corsair Carbide 500R case. Asus X79 Sabertooth with an E5 1680 V2 @ 4.5Ghz. 64GB Corsair Dominator 2133, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 with 4 110cfm SilverStone FM121's in push/pull externally mounted on the top of the case (with the 500R it's a direct bolt-in, no mods or cutting needed), two SilverStone FHP141's at full speed (171cfm each) in the side panel. Around 5 years ago I put a Fury X in it and mounted the radiator for it externally on the rear of the case. It runs amazingly cool even under load doing video transcoding. I discovered it runs cooler when I leave the other side panel off. Having over 340cfm of air blowing onto the mobo plus the LF II's pump fan blowing onto the VRM's has resulted in the best temps since I began playing with this rig nearly 11 years ago.
 
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My main X79 rig is in a Corsair Carbide 500R case. Asus X79 Sabertooth with an E5 1680 V2 @ 4.5Ghz. 64GB Corsair Dominator 2133, Arctic Liquid Freezer II 240 with 4 110cfm SilverStone FM121's in push/pull externally mounted on the top of the case (with the 500R it's a direct bolt-in, no mods or cutting needed), two SilverStone FHP141's at full speed (171cfm each) in the side panel. Around 5 years ago I put a Fury X in it and mounted the radiator for it externally on the rear of the case. It runs amazingly cool even under load doing video transcoding. I discovered it runs cooler when I leave the other side panel off. Having over 340cfm of air blowing onto the mobo plus the LF II's pump fan blowing onto the VRM's has resulted in the best temps since I began playing with this rig nearly 11 years ago.
Yes, the tempered glass side panel trend is a major cooling disadvantage. With a perforated panel, and especially when it's equiped with fans it can do wonders. Considering the high heat output of the newer high end components, it's a no brainer.
I've opted for the fanless intake in this case for many reasons. No space for a fan inside the case, and the cutout not being a square shaped are the main ones.
Also, I wanted to test how much air the negative pressure can pull in, even through a really dense filter. The results are amazing, even with the lame Arctic F series fans. It will be much better with a P series ones I'm installing soon.
 
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Updated the build with the P12 and P14 fans. And TBH, it's a world of difference. Took a shot at the twin tigers as well, just for the reference.

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Although I forgot to mention this earlier, for those that don't know, Arctic's 140mm fans (both P and F series) are actually 27mm thick, unlike the 120mm, which are standard 25mm.

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The other day I played some Warzone 2.0 (DMZ and Insurgence, I hate BR), and friend of mine used this rig. It haven't been used for a long time, and apart from updating the game, I did nothing with it for months. I've noticed the FPS he's getting is terrible, goes below 60 all the time. NVM, tomorrow I was keen to check it out and voila, the CPU was stuck at 3.6GHz, all other settings gone to default, including RAM. When I loaded my OC profile (RAM to 2400, CPU to 4.5GHz among others), the game FPS increased by around 40FPS. A world of difference. Reminded me how 3930K sucks as well.
 

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I'd say give the 1680v2 a try. Can OC those suckers pretty high.
 
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I'd say give the 1680v2 a try. Can OC those suckers pretty high.
TBH, I was thinking just that, as I've noticed they dropped to $80 on ebay, so I might pull the trigger soon.
But I'm not sure it will work in this mobo tho, it's not supported officially, and if it does work, it might kill the VRMs with ease.
 

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TBH, I was thinking just that, as I've noticed they dropped to $80 on ebay, so I might pull the trigger soon.
But I'm not sure it will work in this mobo tho, it's not supported officially, and if it does work, it might kill the VRMs with ease.
I've OC'd on the X79 Classified and the VRMs really need a fan or the heatsink will burn your skin. Can get 4ghz very easily on a 1680v2 and I've maxed at 4.5 on two different boards.

Can also bump clock on stock voltages.
 
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Audio Device(s) Audient iD14 MKII, Adam Audio T8Vs, Bloody M550, HiFiMan HE400se, Tascam TM-80, DS4 v2
Power Supply Rosewill Capstone 1000M | Enermax Revolution X't 730W (both with P14 fans)
Mouse Logitech G305, Bloody A91, Amazon basics, Logitech M187
Keyboard Redragon K530, Bloody B930, Epomaker TH80 SE, BTC 9110
Software W10 LTSC 21H2
Unexpectedly updated the build with a 256GB M.2 SSD on a PCIe x4 adapter...

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It has that annoying green led that's ON if the drive isn't in use, but starts flashing the moment you look at it.

And a bit of HEDT goodness. Those sweet, sweet lanes. PCIe 3.0 x16 slot in action:

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System Name A COMPUTER
Processor Ryzen 9 5900X
Motherboard Gigabyte X470 Aorus "Ultra Gaming"
Cooling Arctic LF II 280
Memory 32GB Corsair LPX DDR4-3600 CL18
Video Card(s) RTX 3060 Ti LHR
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2TB, Seagate 5TB HDD
Display(s) Lenovo P24Q-20
Case be quiet! Silent Base 802
Power Supply EVGA SuperNOVA 1000 GT
Software Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Server / i3wm
Updated the build with this beauty:
What a bizarre layout! I experimented with an NP setup in my old case (top exhaust, front exhaust, open side and rear grilles), and it seemed to work alright thermally, but it collected dust insanely fast. I gave up and went back to the case's stock arrangement. Your setup is much more aggressive, though. Do you have any issues with dust?
 
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System Name Purple Haze | Vacuum Box
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D (-30 CO) | Intel® Xeon® E3-1241 v3
Motherboard MSI B450 Tomahawk Max | Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H
Cooling Dark Rock 4 Pro, P14, P12, T30 case fans | 212 Evo & P12 PWM PST x2, Arctic P14 & P12 case fans
Memory 32GB Ballistix (Micron E 19nm) CL16 @3733MHz | 32GB HyperX Beast 2400MHz (XMP)
Video Card(s) AMD 6900XTXH ASRock OC Formula & Phanteks T30x3 | AMD 5700XT Sapphire Nitro+ & Arctic P12x2
Storage ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB, Toshiba P300 3TB x2 | Kingston A400 120GB, Fanxiang S500 Pro 256GB
Display(s) Mi 2K Gaming Monitor 27", AOC 24G2U
Case Modded MS Industrial Titan II Pro RGB | Heavily Modded Cooler Master Q500L
Audio Device(s) Audient iD14 MKII, Adam Audio T8Vs, Bloody M550, HiFiMan HE400se, Tascam TM-80, DS4 v2
Power Supply Rosewill Capstone 1000M | Enermax Revolution X't 730W (both with P14 fans)
Mouse Logitech G305, Bloody A91, Amazon basics, Logitech M187
Keyboard Redragon K530, Bloody B930, Epomaker TH80 SE, BTC 9110
Software W10 LTSC 21H2
What a bizarre layout! I experimented with an NP setup in my old case (top exhaust, front exhaust, open side and rear grilles), and it seemed to work alright thermally, but it collected dust insanely fast. I gave up and went back to the case's stock arrangement. Your setup is much more aggressive, though. Do you have any issues with dust?
No problems with dust, used women socks material as a filter. It's kinda multi layer, but not too dense. OFC it's much better airflow without filter, but I followed a principle: Unfiltered exhaust fans, single fanless filtered intake. And one of the reasons for that is easy dust management. It is aggressive alright, hence the Vacuum Box naming. It really lives up to the effect.
 
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System Name Purple Haze | Vacuum Box
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D (-30 CO) | Intel® Xeon® E3-1241 v3
Motherboard MSI B450 Tomahawk Max | Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD5H
Cooling Dark Rock 4 Pro, P14, P12, T30 case fans | 212 Evo & P12 PWM PST x2, Arctic P14 & P12 case fans
Memory 32GB Ballistix (Micron E 19nm) CL16 @3733MHz | 32GB HyperX Beast 2400MHz (XMP)
Video Card(s) AMD 6900XTXH ASRock OC Formula & Phanteks T30x3 | AMD 5700XT Sapphire Nitro+ & Arctic P12x2
Storage ADATA SX8200 Pro 1TB, Toshiba P300 3TB x2 | Kingston A400 120GB, Fanxiang S500 Pro 256GB
Display(s) Mi 2K Gaming Monitor 27", AOC 24G2U
Case Modded MS Industrial Titan II Pro RGB | Heavily Modded Cooler Master Q500L
Audio Device(s) Audient iD14 MKII, Adam Audio T8Vs, Bloody M550, HiFiMan HE400se, Tascam TM-80, DS4 v2
Power Supply Rosewill Capstone 1000M | Enermax Revolution X't 730W (both with P14 fans)
Mouse Logitech G305, Bloody A91, Amazon basics, Logitech M187
Keyboard Redragon K530, Bloody B930, Epomaker TH80 SE, BTC 9110
Software W10 LTSC 21H2
Forgot to update the thread with a small upgrade. Bye bye non-existent working BIOS fan related settings, and having FanControl for holding just one fan on a leash. It's Sunon Maglev but still... :D

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