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Hi. The new bios has an added 3rd Expo profile called "Expo Tweaked". Use that as it has had some alterations done internally to stablize the X3D memory controller. I hope this one will work for you. Let me know how you get on. Cheers
 

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good news guys, if you on an 7000X3D chip, 1101 is the one that will make your expo ram post into windows (atleast if you have a strix 670e-f). as Nam said, expo tweaked is the solution to our problems.

system feels mighty stable compared to before. cp overdrive runs like a charm, aside from the framerate drop when you get out of menus, but guess that one is a bug. boot times are still around the 2 minute mark, so we're not out of the woods yet, but the car is atleast running.

thanks again nam for this thread, as it saved me from jumping on the train before it was save to do so.
gonna stick around of course, to see if the next bios inerations will solve even more issues.

of course i'm going to post somthing if something does end up not working, but for now, expo and no OC works, with rebooting and updating windows. no BSOD or similiar issues. installed it 2 days ago, and rebooted multiple times already.
 
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The latest Bios seems to be the one to use. I am glad it is working out for everyone. Take care. Cheers
 
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Hi All
It is time for another update. These are the details for the new Bios available:
ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1202

Version 1202
9.18 MB 2023/04/21
1.Update AGESA version to ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.6
2.TPM 2.0 security update
3.Recommended for optimum performance with AMD Ryzen™ 7000X4D series processors

This latest bios does has the Expo Tweak profile which seems to work well and not cause any issues. Save your profile from the previous Bios to save time with the settings onto a USB Flash drive. I also found using the bios reflash button does a better job than using the utility in the bios as it is alot easier to do. Here is the link below:
 

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Hi All
It is time for another update. These are the details for the new Bios available:
ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1202

Version 1202
9.18 MB 2023/04/21
1.Update AGESA version to ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.6
2.TPM 2.0 security update
3.Recommended for optimum performance with AMD Ryzen™ 7000X4D series processors

This latest bios does has the Expo Tweak profile which seems to work well and not cause any issues. Save your profile from the previous Bios to save time with the settings onto a USB Flash drive. I also found using the bios reflash button does a better job than using the utility in the bios as it is alot easier to do. Here is the link below:
Interesting, I don't see this one on the US Asus download center...is there any difference?
 
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Interesting, I don't see this one on the US Asus download center...is there any difference?
They probably haven't updated the servers yet. I bet it will be updated later. Cheers
 
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I wish they would share more information about new Bios versions.....the standart better performance is too vague imo
 
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I wish they would share more information about new Bios versions.....the standart better performance is too vague imo
Yea that would be nice info to have. I'm trying this one anyway (right now from UK website instead of waiting for US website update) and I'll report back any issues I have if any.
 
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Hi all

I wish they would share more information about new Bios versions.....the standart better performance is too vague imo
The Bios revisions don't display the information on what has been modified and only displays information in brief. It would be nice to see a downloadable document with details on what has changed under the hood.

The AGESA version to ComboAM5PI 1.0.0.6 = Asus Claims that The latest update reduces the Boot Time from 56 seconds to 30 seconds.

AMD's Ryzen 7000 series processors are really efficient processors, especially the newer X3D chips, many users are perplexed by the slow boot times on their system as generally, a new generation of product is typically always faster than last gen stuff, or at least, on par. That is often not the case with AMD's Zen 4 chips, at least when it comes to booting. Things are starting to get better and the new AMD Generic Encapsulated Software Architecture (AGESA) 1.0.0.6 update reduced their boot times from 56 seconds down to 30 seconds which is nearly half. This was measured on the new Ryzen 7950X3D processor running dual 32GB DDR5-5600 kit.


TPM 2.0 security update = Two out-of-bounds buffer overflow vulnerabilities have been found in the TPM 2.0 system hardware used across all Windows 11 devices

The latest AMD Ryzen™ 7000X4D series processors had issues with memory timings causing crashing and not allowing the memory to run at its Expo settings, but we shall see if it is more stable with this current revision, but this won't fix everybodys issues straight away.


ASUS USA Server still not updated to the new 1202 Bios. Use Asus UK to download the latest Bios. Kei stated this earlier.
Cheers

 
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I don't think Asus is hiding something big as they can only fix something when issues arise. The new X3D processors could not be tested until recently as AMD did not send out samples to vendors before launch, which everyone was disappointed with as LTT could not review due to instability issues. This is why they are now trying to fix current problems. The previous version Bios 1003 + 1004 caused issues with many motherboards including mine. 1101 seemed to run better with the timings set in the Expo, but issues still persisted with the X3D processors causing error codes when memory training, so i would imagine fine tweaks to the memory support has been added and also the voltage distribution to all cores stablizing the processor. I suggest updating the bios to the new one so that you can determine whether it works best for your setup or not. There are so many factors what can cause issues within the PBO settings like curve optimisation which most leave to auto settings which requires alot of fine tweaks under the hood to make sure the bios can do what it is suppose to do, but if it takes multiple updates like last month when we had four updated revisions including Beta ones to test out, then so be it until we get what we all want from our expensive AM5 systems and new supporting processors. Time will tell
 
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der8auer EN did a video regarding this.
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Hi All.
Today i noticed a new Bios. This version is Beta, but if you have a 7000X3D then i would suggest updating it as this one protects the Soc voltage not exceeding 1.3volts. Asus are taking this serious and doing all they can to stop these Processors from overloading which is a positive note. I was running the 7950X on the 1202 Bios yesterday and the voltage of the Soc was between 1.394v - 1.489 volts. This was using the Expo Tweak setting. I will update the bios to see if this makes a difference to the 7950x and let you all know the outcome. This issue could potentially Impact all motherboard makers and all Ryzen 7000 chips. What seems to be the case at the moment is that 1.25V is the recommended safe SoC voltage limit, and we're told that 1.4V and beyond definitely increases the likelihood of the condition occurring. To be clear, running beyond 1.4V doesn't ensure that your chip will burn out, but your odds will increase. Conversely, 1.35V appears to be "safe." Proceed at your own risk, though. ASUS has issued a statement, clarifying that it will issue firmwares that limit SoC voltage to 1.3V. As such, this appears to be the maximum safe Max limit

**********UPDATE: - I have set my Soc voltage on my 7950X now to 1.15V without any issues************


ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1301

Version 1301 Beta Version
9.18 MB 2023/04/25
SoC voltage for Ryzen 7000X3D series limited to a maximum of 1.30V to protect the CPU and motherboard.

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SX670EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS.
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Hi All.
Today i noticed a new Bios. This version is Beta, but if you have a 7000X3D then i would suggest updating it as this one protects the Soc voltage not exceeding 1.3volts. Asus are taking this serious and doing all they can to stop these Processors from overloading which is a positive note. I was running the 7950X on the 1202 Bios yesterday and the voltage of the Soc was between 1.394v - 1.489 volts. This was using the Expo Tweak setting. I will update the bios to see if this makes a difference to the 7950x and let you all know the outcome. This issue could potentially Impact all motherboard makers and all Ryzen 7000 chips. What seems to be the case at the moment is that 1.25V is the recommended safe SoC voltage limit, and we're told that 1.4V and beyond definitely increases the likelihood of the condition occurring. To be clear, running beyond 1.4V doesn't ensure that your chip will burn out, but your odds will increase. Conversely, 1.35V appears to be "safe." Proceed at your own risk, though. ASUS has issued a statement, clarifying that it will issue firmwares that limit SoC voltage to 1.3V. As such, this appears to be the maximum safe limit.


ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1301

Version 1301 Beta Version
9.18 MB 2023/04/25
SoC voltage for Ryzen 7000X3D series limited to a maximum of 1.30V to protect the CPU and motherboard.

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SX670EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS.
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Thanks, I used your previous link last night to the UK site and saw that haha. I've downloaded it but not installed yet. I assume all is well with your system? (as is mine)
 
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Thanks, I used your previous link last night to the UK site and saw that haha. I've downloaded it but not installed yet. I assume all is well with your system? (as is mine)
Hi. I just updated the bios and i have noticed The Soc voltage on the 7950X whilst using Cinebench R23 is between 1.394v @ 84.40 Watts- 1.412v @ 219.98 Watts under load. The Soc voltage does not seem to go above 1.412 Volts now which is a lot safer to have. I would suggest everyone updates to this revision as i haven't noticed any other changes than the voltage limiter added. I am still using the Expo Tweak profile with these tests. I will carry on doing more tests and submit the results asap. cheers
 
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are we talking about this Voltage? (check screenshot plz)
I have 1.27v in Idle and 1.305v with Cinebench R23 all cores
Bios 1202 with CPU + Memory Overclocked

 
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are we talking about this Voltage? (check screenshot plz)
I have 1.27v in Idle and 1.305v with Cinebench R23 all cores
Bios 1202 with CPU + Memory Overclocked

Your voltage looks fine on your system. Mine was exceeding 1.4v with the Expo Tweak setting so i have set The Soc voltage to manual and set it to 1.250v with the 7950X and now it is at safe levels. It does look like each chip behaves differently which is going to cause headaches for some systems, but it would be safe to set the voltage manually to 1.250v in the bios for the Soc if anyone is concerned.
I have updated this reply with new voltage settings which has brought the voltage down to 1.288V - 1.305V. System is stable and still using Expo Tweak setting
 
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are we talking about this Voltage? (check screenshot plz)
I have 1.27v in Idle and 1.305v with Cinebench R23 all cores
Bios 1202 with CPU + Memory Overclocked


Your voltage looks fine on your system. Mine was exceeding 1.4v with the Expo Tweak setting so i have set The Soc voltage to manual and set it to 1.250v with the 7950X and now it is at safe levels. It does look like each chip behaves differently which is going to cause headaches for some systems, but it would be safe to set the voltage manually to 1.250v in the bios for the Soc if anyone is concerned.
I have updated this reply with new voltage settings which has brought the voltage down to 1.288V - 1.305V. System is stable and still using Expo Tweak setting
Your vcore voltage itself gets up to 1.394v in this shot? I conveniently don't have my vcore in any of my pictures on my phone so I can't compare haha. That just stood out to me as I can't remember the max I've seen, but I'll look tonight.

Nothing else stood out to me except for that, not alarmed or ready to jump out of a window like reddit lol...just noticed it. I'll take a look when I get home to compare. Maybe Nam can compare as well.
 
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Your vcore voltage itself gets up to 1.394v in this shot? I conveniently don't have my vcore in any of my pictures on my phone so I can't compare haha. That just stood out to me as I can't remember the max I've seen, but I'll look tonight.

Nothing else stood out to me except for that, not alarmed or ready to jump out of a window like reddit lol...just noticed it. I'll take a look when I get home to compare. Maybe Nam can compare as well.
The vcore will fluctuate if set on auto as this allows higher clocks depending on the cooler you are using to a maximum of 95 degrees. If you try and manually set this you will need to fine tune the voltage else you will get crashes and this will also cause your other voltages to fall out of sync when boosting. My processor is at 1.470v running at 5725Mhz and is around 51 degrees on water Loop set to auto on Vcore. The Soc voltage is the one you need to watch. I have been running tests for the last few hours with the lower Soc Voltage and i am pleased with the current settings. The Memory is still set on Expo Tweak with the Soc voltage staying within safety margins. I just hope everyone is able to sort their systems out because this issue is a bit of a silent killer like the videos show the damage to the processors on der8auer EN Channel.
 
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The vcore will fluctuate if set on auto as this allows higher clocks depending on the cooler you are using to a maximum of 95 degrees. If you try and manually set this you will need to fine tune the voltage else you will get crashes and this will also cause your other voltages to fall out of sync when boosting. My processor is at 1.470v running at 5725Mhz and is around 51 degrees on water Loop set to auto on Vcore. The Soc voltage is the one you need to watch. I have been running tests for the last few hours with the lower Soc Voltage and i am pleased with the current settings. The Memory is still set on Expo Tweak with the Soc voltage staying within safety margins. I just hope everyone is able to sort their systems out because this issue is a bit of a silent killer like the videos show the damage to the processors on der8auer EN Channel.
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Here is a shot of my 7800x3D in comparison, I did this today immediately after running the multicore test in Cinebench R23.

We're not all using the same CPU of course, and I have been around for a long long time in the PC game so I understand voltages (not an attack whatsoever), it was just something I saw that stood out to me.

I don't own that CPU so I have no idea what it actually runs at, and of course a sensor could've read things wrong on mine or his. Just curious. My boost was hitting 5GHz single core (which is the artificial limit on my CPU) and about 4.9GHz on all cores.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Review - The Best Zen 4 for Gaming - Overclocking, Boost & Clock Frequencies | TechPowerUp

For reference since I don't have my 7700x any longer, this is the overclocking result at TPU and they were hitting 5.1GHz all cores at 1.25v vcore on their unit.
 
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Here is a shot of my 7800x3D in comparison, I did this today immediately after running the multicore test in Cinebench R23.

We're not all using the same CPU of course, and I have been around for a long long time in the PC game so I understand voltages (not an attack whatsoever), it was just something I saw that stood out to me.

I don't own that CPU so I have no idea what it actually runs at, and of course a sensor could've read things wrong on mine or his. Just curious. My boost was hitting 5GHz single core (which is the artificial limit on my CPU) and about 4.9GHz on all cores.

AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Review - The Best Zen 4 for Gaming - Overclocking, Boost & Clock Frequencies | TechPowerUp

For reference since I don't have my 7700x any longer, this is the overclocking result at TPU and they were hitting 5.1GHz at 1.25v on their unit.
There are so many processors out there at the minute and trying to keep them running within the limits is an ongoing issue for the motherboard vendors. I have read some posts around the internet stating that you can set your Soc voltage to 1.15v without any issues or impact on performance. I did reduce my Soc to this new setting, but i have had to increase it back to 1.250v due to stability issues. I will reduce it over time until i get it stable. It is all Trial and Error at the moment.
 
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ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI BIOS 1401
Version 1401 Beta Version
9.19 MB 2023/04/28
SoC voltage for Ryzen 7000 series limited to a maximum of 1.30V to protect the CPU and motherboard.

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SX670EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS.
https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/...-1401.zip?model=ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI
All this time we have all been running higher Soc Voltages from day one. I hope this hasn't degraded the life of the processors we are running now. Time will tell, but at least the issue is finally being addressed to the 7000X processors now. You can download from here:-

 
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SoC voltage for Ryzen 7000 series limited to a maximum of 1.30V to protect the CPU and motherboard.

Before running the USB BIOS Flashback tool, please rename the BIOS file (SX670EE.CAP) using BIOSRenamer.

Please note that this is a beta BIOS version of the motherboard which is still undergoing final testing before its official release. The UEFI, its firmware and all content found on it are provided on an “as is” and “as available” basis. ASUS does not give any warranties, whether express or limited, as to the suitability, compatibility, or usability of the UEFI, its firmware or any of its content. Except as provided in the Product warranty and to the maximum extent permitted by law, ASUS is not responsible for direct, special, incidental or consequential damages resulting from using this beta BIOS.
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All this time we have all been running higher Soc Voltages from day one. I hope this hasn't degraded the life of the processors we are running now. Time will tell, but at least the issue is finally being addressed to the 7000X processors now. You can download from here:-

Thanks for the heads up, I wonder what's different from the 1301 version.
 
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Thanks for the heads up, I wonder what's different from the 1301 version.
The Soc voltages left on Auto now with Expo Tweak enabled are showing 1.341 and 1.359 under Cinebench Tests and before was up to 1.492v. The Latest Bios has capped the Voltage for 7000X processors including my 7950X. Performance is still good though and scores 37,480 multi core test in Cinebench. It was a shame this issue wasn't addressed earlier as we all don't know what stress it put the processor under to begin with. I also think we are going to see tweaks to bioses throughout May as The Motherboard Venders address all voltages. Cheers
 
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