Star Wars Jedi: Survivor Benchmark Test & Performance Analysis

[wolf]

Watch at 15:00 where Alex asked about Nvidia Streamline API. Apparently AMD engineer is arrogant enough to think their solution is the best for everyone, despite FSR2.x is quite useless at 1440p and below

100%, this guys disdain for nvidia is so obvious he's practically radiating it. In reality, devs don't give a crap about Wether something is propiatary or not, except when a sponsor forces their hand, they use all sorts of licensed, non open source tools.

AMD might soon find themselves sponsoring less and less games if they keep screwing such a large proportion of possible consumers.

 

[AusWolf]

Certain subset of users are becoming such elitists when it come to texture quality, they are happy with turning down RT (which should be the new Ultra settings) or using FSR (which destroys image quality), but turning down texture quality to Medium/High apparently making GPUs unusable .

If I were to say something with that much elitism, I could say every GPU but the 4090 is obsolete for current AAA games, much less AAA games in the next 2 year. And yeah 4090 will be obsolete in a few months when UE5 games come out, time to upgrade to 4090Ti then
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Yeah, because everyone on this planet games at 4K... obviously. Is this supposed to be a joke?

 

[Vya Domus]

Is this supposed to be a joke?

The bigger joke is how these days the real elitists get to pay 1000$+ for GPUs that can't even get you good performance at 4K.

And what's even funnier is that UE5 comes with one of the least heavy implementations of RT, so you can expect those games to run much better than what we have at the moment, but then can you even call yourself the PC master race if your game doesn't crawl down to a halt on your multi thousand dollar system ? I don't think so, except for when a certain company has it's name plastered all over it.

 

[JustBenching]

The bigger joke is how these days the real elitists get to pay 1000$+ for GPUs that can't even get you good performance at 4K.

And what's even funnier is that UE5 comes with one of the least heavy implementations of RT, so you can expect those games to run much better than what we have at the moment, but then can you even call yourself the PC master race if your game doesn't crawl down to a halt on your multi thousand dollar system ? I don't think so, except for when a certain company has it's name plastered all over it.

Doesnt AMD has its name plastered all over this game?

Oh my god, you are the gift that keeps on giving

 

[raddeon]

At most you are getting 5% more performance out of those models.

The 4090 is still going to be winning at 4k even with those.

Do you think so?
My nitro play the game at 3000mhz, that's an increase of 20% compared to the reference design clock speed of 2400 to 2500mhz.

 

[Vya Domus]

Doesnt AMD has its name plastered all over this game?

Yes and that's bad, when it's Nvidia and it runs like hot garbage it's amazing.

I thought I already explained this in a previous comment, are you showing your ineptitude to read once again ?

 

[JustBenching]

Yes and that's bad, when it's Nvidia and it runs like hot garbage it's amazing.

I thought I already explained this in a previous comment, are you showing your ineptitude to read once again ?

Usually nvidia games run great actually, and on all kinds of hardware, not just nvidia but also amd cards. It's just a fact that amd games - for whatever reason - run terribly wrong - are full of stutters and require a huge amount of vram while not looking that great. TLOU / Forspoken / Fc6 / Godfall / Callisto and the list goes on and on

 

[dgianstefani]

Game seems to tax CPU, but certainly delivers playable frame rates if you have a good setup it seems.

This is in line with W1z testing.

 

[Vya Domus]

Usually nvidia games run great actually

If you're on hallucinogenics perhaps.

 

[dgianstefani]

If you're on hallucinogenics perhaps.

Have you considered trying a different narrative? I imagine you might get a little bored sometimes.

 

[Vya Domus]

Have you considered trying a different narrative?

Which narrative ?

AMD bad, Nvidia good. This one ?

 

[dgianstefani]

Which narrative ?

AMD bad, Nvidia good. This one ?

The one where you're not a contentious contrarian.

 

[Vya Domus]

The one where you're not a contentious contrarian.

Contrarian to what ?

As I understand AMD sponsored games run like shit because AMD pays studios to make their games run like shit on anything, seemingly to everyone's detriment. In contrast to Nvidia sponsored titles which I've been told always run great on anything and should the impossible happen and they do in fact run like shit as well, it's because they're pushing the limits of technology and it's amazing.

Did I get anything wrong ? Do tell.

 

[dgianstefani]

Contrarian to what ?

As I understand AMD sponsored games run like shit because AMD pays studios to make their games run like shit on anything, seemingly to everyone's detriment. In contrast to Nvidia sponsored titles which I've been told always run great on anything and should the impossible happen and they do in fact run like shit as well, it's because they're pushing the limits of technology and it's amazing.

Did I get anything wrong ? Do tell.

That seems partially accurate, despite your sarcasm.

NVIDIA games like Cyberpunk do indeed push the limits of tech. Multiple times, on release, and with the path traced update.

What does this game have to offer that justifies the performance? Seems like at best the AMD sponsorship did nothing, and at worst was actively detrimental for not including DLSS/XESS and actual settings for RT/sharpening etc.

Do tell.

 

[Vya Domus]

That seems partially accurate

Astounding.

So AMD bad, Nvidia good, after all. Why beat around the bush so much ?

 

[dgianstefani]

Astounding.

So AMD bad, Nvidia good, after all. Why beat around the bush so much ?

Try responding to the actual point/question, or don't bother replying. As usual you seek ways to promote discord without offering much in the way of useful or accurate content.

 

[AusWolf]

Guys, let's stop fighting, and just agree that most modern games run like shit because of badly optimized console porting, overused, excessive RT, bad resource management, too much reliance on upscaling tech vs actual visual quality, and so on. It's not AMD or Nvidia's fault (at least not directly) that developers see graphical technologies as tickboxes to shove in their games by the truckloads instead of tools of artistic creation to choose from.

 

[Vya Domus]

Try responding to the actual point/question, or don't bother replying. As usual you seek ways to promote discord without offering much in the way of useful or accurate content.

Sure let's play that game.

Cyberpunk ran like hot garbage maxed out even before the RT override stuff. Matter of fact, even on a 4090 prior to the patch, this game runs considerably worse on anything compared to jedi survivor. But Nvidia sponsored titles run like a dream, don't they, sorry I forgot.

 

[dgianstefani]

Sure let's play that game.

Cyberpunk ran like hot garbage maxed out even before the RT override stuff. Matter of fact, even on a 4090 prior to the patch, this game runs considerably worse on anything compared to jedi survivor. But Nvidia sponsored titles run like a dream, don't they, sorry I forgot.

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Is running like a dream the point?

No, once again you are being disingenuous.

The game ran slowly because it introduced extremely taxing and state of the art rendering techniques.

Answer the question.

What does this game have to offer that justifies the performance? Seems like at best the AMD sponsorship did nothing, and at worst was actively detrimental for not including DLSS/XESS and actual settings for RT/sharpening etc.

Do tell.

 

[john_]

Contrarian to what ?

As I understand AMD sponsored games run like shit because AMD pays studios to make their games run like shit on anything, seemingly to everyone's detriment. In contrast to Nvidia sponsored titles which I've been told always run great on anything and should the impossible happen and they do in fact run like shit as well, it's because they're pushing the limits of technology and it's amazing.

Did I get anything wrong ? Do tell.

You do realize that you are going against a bunch of people here who only push a specific narative and they have no intention on seeing things from an objective perspective. You are losing your time and just give them more posts to upvote each other, nothing more.

 

[Vya Domus]

Is running like a dream the point?

No, once again you are being disingenuous.

Yes, that's exactly the point. I've just been told Nvidia sponsored titles run amazing on anything and then you told me that I am just been a contrarian.

The game ran slowly because it introduced extremely taxing and state of the art rendering techniques.

No it didn't, there are games prior to it like Control which roughly had the same set of RT features and ran better, well if you can call that better, at least with a 4090 you could get above 60 natively.

 

[JustBenching]

Sure let's play that game.

Cyberpunk ran like hot garbage maxed out even before the RT override stuff. Matter of fact, even on a 4090 prior to the patch, this game runs considerably worse on anything compared to jedi survivor. But Nvidia sponsored titles run like a dream, don't they, sorry I forgot.

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Well, it's obvious you don't' understand what a game running like shit even means. You confused a game being heavy with running like crap. It's not the same thing. Cyberpunk runs great. What does that mean? For starters, no stuttering. At all. Every other game is full of traversal stutters, shader stutters, there is none of that in cyberpunk. Furthermore, it offers the same performance between amd and nvidia GPUs.. Excluding RT obviously, but that's because nvidia has much more capable RT hardware on their cards. Also, doesn't require 20+ gb of VRAM while it look gorgeous.

None of that is the case with most AAA amd sponsored games. That's just a fact. You can't argue against it, that's why you are not trying. The only nvidia sponsored game that runs like crap is hogwarts.

You do realize that you are going against a bunch of people here who only push a specific narative and they have no intention on seeing things from an objective perspective. You are losing your time and just give them more posts to upvote each other, nothing more.

And the same could be argued about him or you.

 

[dgianstefani]

Yes, that's exactly the point. I've just been told Nvidia sponsored titles run amazing on anything and then you told me that I am just been a contrarian.


No it didn't, there are games prior to it like Control which roughly had the same set of RT features and ran better, well if you can call that better, at least with a 4090 you could get above 60 natively.

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Ah yes, an open world game compared to one in small rooms/buildings. Very comparable.

Still not answering the question and going off on a tangent.

I'm done here, you're the same as always.

What does this game have to offer that justifies the performance? Seems like at best the AMD sponsorship did nothing, and at worst was actively detrimental for not including DLSS/XESS and actual settings for RT/sharpening etc.

Here's the question again, in case someone else has the patience to interact with Vya.

 

[AusWolf]

Well, it's obvious you don't' understand what a game running like shit even means. You confused a game being heavy with running like crap. It's not the same thing. Cyberpunk runs great. What does that mean? For starters, no stuttering. At all. Every other game is full of traversal stutters, shader stutters, there is none of that in cyberpunk. Furthermore, it offers the same performance between amd and nvidia GPUs.. Excluding RT obviously, but that's because nvidia has much more capable RT hardware on their cards. Also, doesn't require 20+ gb of VRAM while it look gorgeous.

None of that is the case with most AAA amd sponsored games. That's just a fact. You can't argue against it, that's why you are not trying. The only nvidia sponsored game that runs like crap is hogwarts.

I've just read through the review again, and there's no complaint about the game's looks, or any mention that it needs 20+ GB VRAM. And yeah, it stutters because it's UE4. I don't see AMD's hand in any of this.

 

[Vya Domus]

Ah yes, an open world game compared to one in small rooms/buildings. Very comparable.

It doesn't matter, the cost of RT is the same, read the percentages. Why are they the same ? Because the same effects are used, "extremely taxing and state of the art rendering techniques" never before seen, yeah right.

Still not answering the question and going off on a tangent.

You're question is a joke, as are most of your opinions on here.

I've just shown an Nvidia sponsored game that obviously ran much worse than jedi survivor as most of them do, in fact. As I said, AMD sponsored titles run worse compared to Nvidia ones only by the aid of drugs or perhaps just a very rich imagination.

You are losing your time and just give them more posts to upvote each other, nothing more.

You probably already know I really don't care.