US Government Announces the National Semiconductor Technology Center

[TheLostSwede]

As a part of the CHIPS act, the US government has announced that it will set up a network for advanced chip design that goes under the name of the National Semiconductor Technology Center or NSTC. The NSTC is intended to help the US pull ahead of other nations when it comes to advanced chip design, but it's also meant to help reduce the time and maybe more importantly the cost of going from a design concept to a final commercial product. A big part of this is said to be about helping startups and entrepreneurs make prototypes and pilot runs, to enable them to bring proof of concepts to the market, so they can raise funds for a full production run.

However, it doesn't stop there, as the US government also wants the NSTC to help build and sustain a suitable workforce for the semiconductor industry, suggesting that the NSTC will be involved in academia as well as the industry itself. The NSTC is backed by the Commerce Department and it's expected to involve multiple locations nationwide, although at this point in time, it's not clear if this involves new locations outside of areas where the US based semiconductor industry is located today. Even the NSTC headquarter location has as yet to be decided, but its location alongside other sites are said to be worked out over the next few months. Time will tell if the NSTC will help bring change to the US semiconductor industry, but it seems like a step in the right direction.



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[Why_Me]

This will most likely be a giant fail.

 

[rutra80]

They used to have enterprises doing the actual stuff, now they will have workforces having meetings and producing paper acts like UE.

 

[Space Lynx]

This will most likely be a giant fail.

everyone said the same thing about Space Force, but its working as intended and everyone accepts it now.

 

[Wirko]

I can't not read it as NTSC. N stood for national there but people soon attached a more appropriate meaning to the acronym.

 

[Fourstaff]

Feels very DARPA to me, but with bigger budget.

 

[Vayra86]

I can't not read it as NTSC. N stood for national there but people soon attached a more appropriate meaning to the acronym.

PAL, just stop! Now I can't unsee it

 

[R0H1T]

Sounds like another arms race is coming up!

Spoiler

 

[R-T-B]

everyone said the same thing about Space Force, but its working as intended and everyone accepts it now.

Space force was just moving the air force space portion to another branch. It got made fun of for the dumb name.

I don't see much to make fun of here, other than if you want to be partisan.

 

[olymind1]

PAL, just stop! Now I can't unsee it

Haha nice counter.

 

[WorringlyIndifferent]

Would bet my entire life savings that this is going to be used to encourage and force backdoors in all US-made or US-designed hardware and software - even more than they already do with things like Intel's ME and AMD's PSP. The current set of elected officials and their billionaire backers know how much public discontent there is toward our government, and how quickly it's growing every day (thank you, Elon Musk). You really think they'll do something like this to "secure America's position" or "encourage America's economic power"?

Lmao, no. They'll use this to ensure they're unquestionably the rulers and to find and destroy any political dissidents that threaten their control over a sinking ship, public be damned.

 

[boidsonly]

This Democrat run Administration is business dumb. The only thing they do well is rule by chaos.

 

[R-T-B]

even more than they already do with things like Intel's ME and AMD's PSP.

I love the citations of backdoors in these programs without ever a inkling of evidence.

There are plenty of issues with the Intel ME and AMD PSP but the government backdoor angle has never been proven. Theres been a lot of looking for it on the ME too.

 

[WorringlyIndifferent]

I love the citations of backdoors in these programs without ever a inkling of evidence.

There are plenty of issues with the Intel ME and AMD PSP but the government backdoor angle has never been proven. Theres been a lot of looking for it on the ME too.

When it comes to digital security, the burden of proof lies on the person claiming "it's completely safe, there are no harmful effects, don't worry about it."

Similar to how it (used to) work with experimental vaccines, lol

 

[R-T-B]

When it comes to digital security, the burden of proof lies on the person claiming "it's completely safe, there are no harmful effects, don't worry about it."

I never said that. What I said specifically, is there is no evidence for "US government backdoors."

And honestly no, science is universal, and the burden of proof is always on the claimant.

Similar to how it (used to) work with experimental vaccines, lol

Still does but this is massively OT and I won't be baited there further.

 

[WorringlyIndifferent]

I never said that. What I said specifically, is there is no evidence for "US government backdoors."

And honestly no, science is universal, and the burden of proof is always on the claimant.


Still does but this is massively OT and I won't be baited there further.

The evidence is that there's an entire functioning sub-CPU that has access to everything in the computer (memory, storage, network stack), that runs with the computer powered off, developed by an American company. Every Intel processor after 2007 and every AMD processor after 2008 has this - all of them. This change also occurred right around the time the feds "found" some evidence of wrongdoing from Qwest's CEO, the same guy who caught, and then publicly tried to stop, the NSA from wiretapping all of the internet traffic they served.

Hold on, let me go out on a limb: every time someone talks about getting a Chinese phone (Huawei, Xiaomi, etc), you're the first to get on here and talk about how they all have backdoors and how China's gonna spy on you, right? Or are Chinese phones safe to use?

Oh, and just so we're clear to any lurkers in this thread:

And honestly no, science is universal, and the burden of proof is always on the claimant.

This is absolutely not how it works. Literally the opposite of how it works. Lmao, christ.

 

[R-T-B]

evidence is that there's an entire functioning sub-CPU that has access to everything in the computer (memory, storage, network stack), that runs with the computer powered off, developed by an American company.

That's not evidence, it's potential for abuse but you still need to prove it happened and that requires evidence. It's not a great system though, which is why I have always argued subsystems like this are a horrible idea.

This is absolutely not how it works. Literally the opposite of how it works. Lmao, christ.

Burden of proof (philosophy) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

It's philosophy but it applies to science. As you clearly have no idea what you are talking about I'm going to consider this discussion a dead end. It is somewhat laughable to see Why_Me agreeing with you, though. It shows a lot that he's clearly in with the anti-science ideology.

every time someone talks about getting a Chinese phone (Huawei, Xiaomi, etc), you're the first to get on here and talk about how they all have backdoors and how China's gonna spy on you, right? Or are Chinese phones safe to use?

I haven't studied it enough to be sure like the Intel ME, so no claims either way, but I'd certainly say an ounce of caution never hurts.