PowerLeader Announces x86 CPU for the Chinese Market, Looks like an Intel CPU

[TheLostSwede]

Rather unexpectedly, a mostly unknown Chinese company called PowerLeader—who seems to have mainly been in the server market space until now—has launched an unheard of x86 compatible CPU. There's no product information on the company website, not even a press release on the CPU which was announced only yesterday according to IT Home. Fortunately, there's a picture of the new CPU, which gives us a few more details. The CPU appears to be called the Pstar P3 and has the model name P3-01105. Luckily the clock frequency of the CPU, which is 3.7 GHz, is also printed on the chip.

However, a closer look at the picture would have most people that are interested in tech scratching their heads, as it appears to be an Intel CPU using the LGA-1200 socket. Even the model name and what is supposedly the spec ID of the CPU, follows Intel's style of naming its CPUs. The comments on IT Home and elsewhere, all suggest that this is simply a re-branded Intel Core i3-10105 CPU, although it's entirely possible this is a chip that only looks like an Intel CPU. It's entirely possible that this is some kind of unannounced licensing deal by Intel, but if so, it would be the first such licensing deal Intel has done since the 286 days, to our knowledge. PowerLeader claims that the CPU is specifically designed for desktop computers and the company is expecting to sell 1.5 million units per year.



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[P4-630]

P3-01105

Ah, a Chinese Pentium 3!

 

[TheLostSwede]

Ah, a Chinese Pentium 3!

I was waiting for that comment, didn't take long.

 

[Vayra86]

I thought the Chinese had that 7nm node rollin the other day? And they also had a working quantum computer, cured covid and landed a chihuahua on Mars?

Good reality check, this news

 

[mb194dc]

This is just a way of getting around sanctions .. ?

These chips probably all going to Russia?

 

[ExcuseMeWtf]

IHS alone looked a little sus lmao.

 

[arbiter]

i got 10 they probably stole some of IP in that cpu from both amd and intel.

 

[AusWolf]

From the CEO: "See our brand new CPU! It's not a Core i3, I promise." *wink-wink

 

[Verpal]

if it is indeed a i3-10105, it would more than enough to power China's government infrasture and Russia's war effort (and the subsequent supply issue in civilian sector), perhaps this company managed to bypass all those ''blackbox'' technology of Intel? Else it would be confusing why the company claim Chinese government will buy it in large scale.

 

[ixi]

Good for consumers if it is really done from their side 100% and not involed intel or amd :>. Would be awesome to see different ihs.

 

[Chry]

It is adorable how naive the author of this text is.

 

[Denver]

At best this is just one of the many hoaxes in the Chinese market... At worst, it's a serious IP theft and trigger of a much bigger conflict.

 

[ZoneDymo]

with how much Gelsinger talks about "leadership" I love this company is literally called "powerleader"

At best this is just one of the many hoaxes in the Chinese market... At worst, it's a serious IP theft and trigger of a much bigger conflict.

This wont trigger anything, it will be like the car industry, Chinese companies copy, Outside companies complain, China says they arnt copy's at all, chinese companies sell only to chinese market and has the most sold car WORLD WIDE because china on its own is a big enough market.
Outside companies can only try to compete with the copies, put in effort to have the superior product at a good price and convince the chinese people of that.

but in the meantime chinese cars are (going to be) sold elsewhere in the world under local brandnames soooo yeah.

 

[P4-630]

China copies, companies complain

In the past they copied a popular BMW model, BMW sued them and in the end BMW lost the case.....

 

[mb194dc]

At best this is just one of the many hoaxes in the Chinese market... At worst, it's a serious IP theft and trigger of a much bigger conflict.

Assuming it's real, It's probably a deliberate FU to the US by China and its part of the trade war situation. Definitely a big escalation.

Possibly it's Intel silicon that's been modified so that identifies it as power leader chip instead. Why would they do that? Sanctions... Can ship them to Russia, or wherever else official chips are blocked.

Different ball game to shipping official products through third countries like Turkey.

 

[kapone32]

Wasn't there an "Intel" store in several Malls in China that Intel had no knowledge of? The fact that China and Russia have been basically banned from access to Western Technology. This has no licensing and will be a X86 capable CPU to power things like Drones, Howitzers, GPS, Tank Weapons, Avionics and whatever else stopped their Advanced Weaponry development. Knowing the the Chinese the Guts of this could be a mix of AMD and Intel Specs.

 

[ZoneDymo]

In the past they copied a popular BMW model, BMW sued them and in the end BMW lost the case.....

exactly what I said "china will say they arnt copies" and BMW just has to deal with that if they want to do business in that country, which they reaaaaally want to.

 

[Beer4Myself]

In the past they copied a popular BMW model, BMW sued them and in the end BMW lost the case.....

The same happened to Ford. they got sued by a chinese brand for the name Mustang and Ford lost the case.

 

[TheLostSwede]

It is adorable how naive the author of this text is.

Am I now? Or maybe, just maybe, I didn't take it all to seriously to start with, as this is clearly and Intel chip someone has printed a different model number on.

 

[TumbleGeorge]

I believe everyone here has opened up Chinese processors, ground the crystal and photographed it with an electron microscope. In addition, you perfectly know visually the architecture of processors of Western companies, so you have made comparisons and proved IP theft. Of course you know China has some direct deals with AMD since before the sanctions and also with Via technologies. So, probably China has quite legally purchased the IP and license.

 

[Denver]

I believe everyone here has opened up Chinese processors, ground the crystal and photographed it with an electron microscope. In addition, you perfectly know visually the architecture of processors of Western companies, so you have made comparisons and proved IP theft. Of course you know China has some direct deals with AMD since before the sanctions and also with Via technologies. So, probably China has quite legally purchased the IP and license.

with how much Gelsinger talks about "leadership" I love this company is literally called "powerleader"



This wont trigger anything, it will be like the car industry, Chinese companies copy, Outside companies complain, China says they arnt copy's at all, chinese companies sell only to chinese market and has the most sold car WORLD WIDE because china on its own is a big enough market.
Outside companies can only try to compete with the copies, put in effort to have the superior product at a good price and convince the chinese people of that.

but in the meantime chinese cars are (going to be) sold elsewhere in the world under local brandnames soooo yeah.

Do you think that something generic with dozens of brands like a car is comparable to the base architecture of most of the world's internet infrastructure? This case is most likely a simple forgery like many. Btw if a company commits arbitrary stealing of such an important technology, that would be reason to start or leave the trigger half-pulled towards a war.

I think the western world has been very lenient towards these dictatorships.

 

[mechtech]

In the past they copied a popular BMW model, BMW sued them and in the end BMW lost the case.....

Most people have no idea how good they are at making knock offs. I had to work in Mongolia for a while and there was tobasco sauce and French’s mustard knock offs lol. And if you didn’t study the bottles for a bit, be easy to get duped.

 

[AirplaneA1]

I know more about the habits of the Chinese government. This company is a small to medium sized server provider that does not have semiconductor design and manufacturing capabilities at the silicon chip level.
From what I know of the Chinese government, this would be a comical product created to comply with Beijing's demand for "full localization". China has been trying to push for a localized replacement for government computers and other electronic equipment because they are convinced that foreign companies like Intel and Nvidia will leave backdoors in the equipment they sell to China and cause theft of secrets. But, unfortunately, the Chinese industry is not strong enough to make CPUs with adequate performance, so these Intel CPUs in a new shell have been created to maintain the ridiculous pride of the leaders while still providing adequate performance.
Also, I don't think this CPU was provided to countries that were sanctioned such as Russia and Iran. Just because China doesn't explicitly support Ukraine doesn't mean that it will support Russia unconditionally. Although not sanctioning or condemning Russia would already be another form of support. For China, relations with the United States are also quite important and it is unlikely that international disputes will arise over this matter.

 

[ZoneDymo]

Do you think that something generic with dozens of brands like a car is comparable to the base architecture of most of the world's internet infrastructure? This case is most likely a simple forgery like many. Btw if a company commits arbitrary stealing of such an important technology, that would be reason to start or leave the trigger half-pulled towards a war.

I think the western world has been very lenient towards these dictatorships.

that might be but that does not change anything, welcome to the world of capitalism, yeah something "Generic like a car" is more then comparable to "the base architecture of most of the worlds internet infrastructure" (although what are you even talking about here).....and heck where do you think they make that stuff anyway? oh right china.....

Not one nation would attempt a war, with a country we are all soooo freaking dependent on, over them copying a processor...

Most people have no idea how good they are at making knock offs. I had to work in Mongolia for a while and there was tobasco sauce and French’s mustard knock offs lol. And if you didn’t study the bottles for a bit, be easy to get duped.

This is because we literally make everything over there, what is to stop them from, at the end of assembly, just throwing their own brand on the product and then selling a few on the side as theirs?

This is why companies tend to make parts of the product in one factory and other parts in others and then have all that assembled somewhere else as well just so not one company has all the information and tools, but obviously that costs more money to do for the original company.

 

[Chaitanya]

with how much Gelsinger talks about "leadership" I love this company is literally called "powerleader"



This wont trigger anything, it will be like the car industry, Chinese companies copy, Outside companies complain, China says they arnt copy's at all, chinese companies sell only to chinese market and has the most sold car WORLD WIDE because china on its own is a big enough market.
Outside companies can only try to compete with the copies, put in effort to have the superior product at a good price and convince the chinese people of that.

but in the meantime chinese cars are (going to be) sold elsewhere in the world under local brandnames soooo yeah.

Speaking of low cost vehicles, there has been a boom in electric bikes from China and given their numbers on road and low rate of fires they seem to be reliable. Also when it comes to high end torches that market is nearly solely in control of Chinese companies who have great products so not everything made in China is cheap/low quality copy cat products.