AMD's Dr. Lisa Su Thinks That Moore's Law is Still Relevant - Innovation Will Keep Legacy Going

R-T-B · May 7, 2023

fevgatos said:
Even natural laws are malleable, they are not set in stone. They are descriptive after all, not prescriptive.

True. Everything in science is like that.

eidairaman1 · May 7, 2023

R-T-B said:
Law and theory are just words. They have no meaning outside of their applicable fields, and Moore never proposed his law to be a natural one, only a commercial prediction. People here are abusing that definition with gusto.

Any stock market "law" is not the same as a natural law and everyone should know that.

Also, scientific theories are signifigantly more grounded then that of any commercial prediction. Don't give Moore's law that kind of credibility, it really shows you have no understanding of what you are saying.

Condenscending much?

I already know it is not a Law, I just wanted to know who said it was a law to begin with. When I wrote the word theory it's technically an opinion. Hence the point about not having 10GHz CPUs, lighten up.

R-T-B · May 7, 2023

eidairaman1 said:
Condenscending much?

Not trying to be, just saying how it looks. I'm not trying to judge only educate. Sorry, I can see how I did word it to sound a bit condescending. Not intended. Anyone who really didn't know need not be ashamed, as now is always the time to learn.

Wye · May 7, 2023

Once a manager gets past a certain threshold in their career level, they stop saying actual information.
They just say senseless politically correct crap that everyone expects/agrees.
Tech will innovate.
Potatoes will potate.
Alligators will alligate.

Dr. Dro · May 7, 2023

Vayra86 said:
Nice story & theory.

Practice - 65~55% profit margins

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It's not only a story but 16.19% net margin seems fair, and look at the significant slump in the recent year. That's no doubt due to crypto stopping being a thing and Ada's high manufacturing costs piled on top.

Said margin must cover driver development costs and hardware R&D, as well as pay operating costs and company dividends, so it doesn't look too awful from where I'm standing. They are a for-profit, after all.

Wirko · May 7, 2023

R-T-B said:
Anyone who thought a commercial thing like moores law was an actual law of nature needs to retake high school science.

Thankfully, I don't think many here were confused on that point.

Oh, and I thought it was a law of the kind that lawyers feed on. You obey it, or you're huang!

R-T-B · May 7, 2023

Wye said:
Once a manager gets past a certain threshold in their career level, they stop saying actual information.
They just say senseless politically correct crap that everyone expects/agrees.
Tech will innovate.
Potatoes will potate.
Alligators will alligate.

Not sure that applies here. Moores law was stated at a time when these things were far from established. It ended up being mostly correct, probably because he sort of had inside ties into this industry.

mechtech · May 8, 2023

TumbleGeorge said:
I disagree. Humans are a natural product. From a philosophical point of view, nature uses us to create development that cannot happen directly. We are only working tools.

Did someone say philosophy??

Aquinus · May 8, 2023

I'm sure that Lisa Su knows that if they can stack SRAM for cache, that they can stack other things as well. Density is, after all, a measurement of mass per unit volume in 3d space, not area in 2d space.

Luminescent · May 8, 2023

What she is not saying is that as long as TSMC keeps pulling a rabbit out of a hat they can keep having significant performance jumps, when that stops then moore's law is dead.
Important tech companies are so dependent on TSMC that US is willing to go to war with China is they touch Taiwan.
Remember, there is no iphone without TSMC, no AMD, no power efficient RTX 4000 and so on...

64K · May 8, 2023

Lisa Su is a very smart woman and adept in business. She has a PhD in Electrical Engineering from MIT. That alone is a hell of an accomplishment. She has earned my respect with what she has brought to AMD. I was watching AMD years ago when they were swirling down the toilet bowl financially and amazingly under her leadership she has turned AMD from a train wreck into a thriving financially successful enterprise.

One of the brightest minds in the Tech World today imo.

JAB Creations · May 12, 2023

DemonicRyzen666 said:
"Moore's Law" was never a law.
It's a theory.
Too many outliers to be a classified as a "true law".
It's a "pseudo law" excepted by the tech as a real law.

Fifth comment is what it took for there to be something worth reading in the comments. Thank you.

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AMD's Dr. Lisa Su Thinks That Moore's Law is Still Relevant - Innovation Will Keep Legacy Going

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