MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ventus 3X

[W1zzard]

The MSI RTX 4070 Ventus 3X comes with a triple-fan, dual-slot design. Our review confirms that this is the most powerful cooler tested today, and the card runs extremely quiet, less than 30 dBA at full load. MSI is pricing their card at an MSRP of $600, which makes it an attractive choice for many gamers.

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[P4-630]

The temperatures make only sense if you mention the ambient temp imo....

 

[trisstann]

editor choice for 600$ card that match performance of 6800 XT, 2+ years old card that cost almost 100 less


kay

 

[Pumper]

Really nice to see great temps/noise on an MSRP aib card. I remember the 3000 series Ventus GPUs being complete trash, good on MSI on fixing their mistakes.

 

[THU31]

Really nice to see great temps/noise on an MSRP aib card. I remember the 3000 series Ventus GPUs being complete trash, good on MSI on fixing their mistakes.

This is actually one of the best things I've seen NVIDIA do in a long time, forcing review samples of MSRP cards. At least from the consumer's perspective.

It's always obvious that the expensive models are great. You want to know if the cheap models are worth getting, and almost nobody reviews those, because AIBs don't want you to buy them.

The Ventus is a very nice card. A bit long, but light and only 2-slot.

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

This is actually one of the best things I've seen NVIDIA do in a long time, forcing review samples of MSRP cards. At least from the consumer's perspective.

It's always obvious that the expensive models are great. You want to know if the cheap models are worth getting, and almost nobody reviews those, because AIBs don't want you to buy them.

The Ventus is a very nice card. A bit long, but light and only 2-slot.

Most people buying GPUs do so off the halo effect and are not tech savvy. Most people are going to end up with a 4060 series card like always but think it has some of the DNA of the 4090 in it. Just as most people are not going to buy the top SKU in the 4060 series but are going to get a mid or cheap SKU and feel that some of that extra juice has trickled into their card. Likewise most people are going to target the halo style brand of nvidia and the halo style board makers like ASUS.

As crazy as that all sounds to people here it's the nature of it. Silly products like an RTX 4080 that approaches the cost of an RTX 4090 do not exist to sell that specific card. The exist to create a halo for the cheaper cards below it because that will move sales. Hence why push to review those.

Like it or not most PC gaming sales are done by emotions and psychology above all else. Marketers know this and know their target market is suckers.

 

[mama]

Bit off topic, Wizzard I think some of your older GPU benches need review. I'm presently playing Days Gone on my 6900XT at 4K and getting a solid 80fps. I get that drivers are updated and games optimised over time but do you retest?

 

[W1zzard]

Bit off topic, Wizzard I think some of your older GPU benches need review. I'm presently playing Days Gone on my 6900XT at 4K and getting a solid 80fps. I get that drivers are updated and games optimised over time but do you retest?

Retested all cards in January. I'm sure you're playing a different scene than I do

 

[Taisho]

Surprisingly high idle power draw compared to Founders Edition.

 

[Chrispy_]

This is basically the perfect 4070 base card. The cooler's better and quieter than the FE and it has a sensible 8-pin power connector.
The only thing I'm slightly salty about it the plastic backplate looks and feels cheap but it's not a deal-breaker and it's still better than no backplate.

 

[Boink24a]

This looks like an interesting card.
But I am a bit curious about the hotspot value reported, so I hope it is okay to ask a question here to Wizzard

Guru3D found the top of the card had a hotspot issue due to the design.
It hits 90C and MSI themselves seem to confirm it.

MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ventus 3X review

We review the MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Ventus 3X, an affordable alternative in the RTX 4070 lineup that delivers top-notch performance. Classified by NVIDIA as a 12 GB MSRP (Manufacturer's Suggested Reta... Graphics Card Thermal Imaging Measurements (FLIR)

www.guru3d.com

FLIR imaging shows a lot of heat at the top side of the card; MOSFETs and chokes here are now cooled by the heatsink and thus ooze hot air. The above photo identifies the root cause of the issue here. No padding, no touching, any heatsink. However, they produce numbers within an acceptable margin even at these temps.

We presented our finding to MSI, and they performed an extra run in a test chamber @ 30 degrees (ambient) and found a similar temperature at the heat spot with 89-90 degrees while the GPU was heated up to 65 degrees. Engineering got back to us saying that they produced similar results, but they pass internal validation, ergo they deem this to be normal/expected behaviour.

Are there different version of the card? Running two GPUs (I render in Daz studio/blender) I'd be rather hesitant to have a 90C anything (my ambient temps would also be a lot higher than the 30C test setups probably use) but on the other hand would like a quiet 2 slot cooler (though I suppose I could "wing" it using the Asus 4070 Dual, by removing the slot cover and the live with 0.5 slots free, to the outside, to the next GPU, the Asus being 2.56 Slot size).

Edit : Corrected to 90C

 

[W1zzard]

hotspot

"Hotspot" is the hottest temperature inside the GPU chip. What Guru3D is showing is part of the VRMs running at 90°C, which does seem a bit high, but still very well in spec. How are they running this test? Furmark or actual gaming?

Edit: it's because these two VRMs are not cooled by a heatsink. Would be nice to have cooling for them, but not a big deal imo

http://imgur.com/17V6r1b

 

[crow1001]

$600 and plastic, useless backplate, msi you suck.

 

[Chrispy_]

"Hotspot" is the hottest temperature inside the GPU chip. What Guru3D is showing is part of the VRMs running at 90°C, which does seem a bit high, but still very well in spec. How are they running this test? Furmark or actual gaming?

Edit: it's because these two VRMs are not cooled by a heatsink. Would be nice to have cooling for them, but not a big deal imo

http://imgur.com/17V6r1b

Would an epoxied 1cm x 1cm heatsink not be the answer for anyone worried about temps?

Maybe it's not necessary. MSI likely would glue a couple of these on for a few cents if they thought it actually mattered at all.


On the subject of VRMs, if this is a 6+2 design, what's the 9th VRM for, or is that one I've circled not a VRM?

 

[5 o'clock Charlie]

Surprisingly high idle power draw compared to Founders Edition.

I agree. No other card reviewed here has 20w for idle power draw, not even the OC cards like the MSI GeForce RTX 4070 Gaming X Trio (15w). There is no RGB or factory OC on the Ventus. @W1zzard do you have any idea why this card has higher idle power consumption? Also, thank you for the great review as usual!

 

[W1zzard]

Would an epoxied 1cm x 1cm heatsink not be the answer for anyone worried about temps?

Yes

Maybe it's not necessary. MSI likely would glue a couple of these on for a few cents if they thought it actually mattered at all.

Yes

On the subject of VRMs, if this is a 6+2 design, what's the 9th VRM for, or is that one I've circled not a VRM?

It is a different voltage, not part of the GPU+Mem VRM, there's like 3 or 4 more, but none of them are relevant in any way

do you have any idea why this card has higher idle power consumption?

No idea .. but it happens fairly often for MSI

 

[THU31]

I ordered one today to replace my 3080. Call me crazy, but I don't care.

It might arrive on Saturday. I can't wait to play around with undervolting.

 

[H4zelnut]

plastic backplate? ASUS Dual it is then

 

[Raytech]

the board layout and the chosen components is almost identical to the FE edition.
I would pick it over the trio for the better SMT components.
I wouldn't sweet about that 90c VRM thing... I trust MSI and Asus more than other brands.

 

[Blenderbb]

Hi, I did tests with my PC and the Msi rtx 4070 ventus3 with a multifunction thermometer and the temperature recorded at the VRM does not exceed 80 ° C ... I used Occt, Witcher 3 (4K Ultra),FurMark, ....

 

[Dr. Dro]

Hi, I did tests with my PC and the Msi rtx 4070 ventus3 with a multifunction thermometer and the temperature recorded at the VRM does not exceed 80 ° C ... I used Occt, Witcher 3 (4K Ultra),FurMark, ....

Operating temperature is always subject to change with ambient, load, airflow, etc., it should not be taken as gospel

 

[sp_00n]

bought this card as it fits smaller SFF cases. wonder if backplate can be replaced with a custom made metal one?
btw. thank you for the review, its great that you guys put so much effort to measure noise and temperatures as well as normalized results at certain sound level. great job.

 

[W1zzard]

wonder if backplate can be replaced with a custom made metal one?

Yeah should be np, the biggest challenge will be cutting threads into the backplate for some of the screws

 

[sp_00n]

Yeah should be np, the biggest challenge will be cutting threads into the backplate for some of the screws

yea, have to tear down the card first. I asked because if the backplate is plastic, then maybe there are some components on the back of the board that cannot touch a conductive material

 

[AbhiMahant]

I physically touched the 4 capacitors at the outside of Ventus 2X after being on a load of around 15 minutes and found they did not feel extremely hot to touch, meaning the temperature is lower compared to around 97 posted in guru3d review of Ventus 3X.
btw i set the power limit to 75% and fan speed to 70%, case airflow can also help with lowering of temperature of the capacitors. I have set case fans and cpu fan to increase in rpm with gpu temperature.
So on average the temperature is approximately 63 for gpu core, 77 for hotspot and 52 for memory.