First time builder, starting with AMD Ryzen 7 3700X, decided on HYTE Y60, now choosing motherboard.

[WowRly]

I'm building a gaming PC for the first time and doing researching on it, also for the first time. One of my inspirations for wanting to build the PC is the HYTE Y60 case. It seems to be quite expensive for a case, but it just looks absolutely amazing that I'm willing to overpay for this part.

I have a HP Pavilion Desktop TP01-0xxx / AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core Processor 3.59 GHz and plan on transferring the CPU and RAM 32 GB (and whatever else might be transferable). My goal, generally, is to build a quality system that can play the latest games with ease, won't need to be upgraded for a long time, minimizes unexpected problems, and is simple. I'm flexible with the budget and am willing take my time with this build--I want value out of the parts I buy, e.g., if I can spent a little more to get something significantly better I will, or if I can pay somewhat less to get something that's extremely similar I also will.

My next decision will be the motherboard, and I guess I should also be getting started with looking at graphic cards too. For the motherboard, I am considering MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4. Any thoughts?

 

[AMF]

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ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4AM4/USB3.2/HDMI/RJ45 Motherboard​

would be a decent board for that chip its not pricey .. depends what you are gonna use your rig for

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 WiFi AX AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard​

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ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Integrated 2.5 Gbps LAN, USB 3.2, SATA, M.2, Node and Aura Sync RGB Lighting (Renewed)​

 

[eidairaman1]

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ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4AM4/USB3.2/HDMI/RJ45 Motherboard​

would be a decent board for that chip its not pricey .. depends what you are gonna use your rig for

ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 WiFi AX AM4 AMD X570 SATA 6Gb/s ATX AMD Motherboard​

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ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero X570 ATX Motherboard with PCIe 4.0, Integrated 2.5 Gbps LAN, USB 3.2, SATA, M.2, Node and Aura Sync RGB Lighting (Renewed)​

Id say the B550 Steel Legend by them

 

[R0H1T]

If you don't plan to upgrade from the 3700x no need to go for such an expensive MB, just get something close to $100~150 & be done with it. Depending on where you are (near microcenter?) you might also get a good deal because I see the AM4 mobo stocks are being depleted especially with clearance sales.

 

[AMF]

Id say the B550 Steel Legend by them

ya thats a pretty good board actually not room to upgrade much

 

[Dr. Dro]

With all the issues fixed, the ROG Strix B550-E is a solid pick. I had one and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's not the cheapest board but it avoids a lot of X570's active cooling problems and whatnot. VRMs should be solid. The B550-F II is about the same board but with a slightly weaker VRM, absence of a debug code display and no native WiFi, if this isn't a problem and that board is cheaper, I recommend it.

However, one thing I noticed in your old thread; your system is capable of housing an NVIDIA RTX A2000 GPU without any other part replacement (including PSU) without any issue. Instead of a full rebuild, IMHO you should just grab one of those, even if it's technically paying $399 on an RTX 3060, it should be cheaper and yield more or less the same result. Not to mention you'd have a killer low profile GPU that oozes performance for its wattage level (no external power required, runs directly off PCIe slot).

I can't wait for those to go on sale, I'm seriously considering picking one up.

 

[ir_cow]

If you aren't planning to upgrade, get a cheap used X570 for $100.

 

[eidairaman1]

ya thats a pretty good board actually not room to upgrade much

Oh i know, built a 5800 using 1 in 2021, very robust

 

[A Computer Guy]

If you are not budget constrained I'd go for a B650 board (MSI or ASRock) with 7800X3D. DDR5 32GB (2x16) kits have gotten pretty cheap so why not get the best gaming experience and oddly enough the most USB2 ports ever?

back to my original post...

If you don't need the extras of the x570 then I think a b550 motherboard is the way to go if you are going to reuse your CPU and RAM with an eventual upgrade to 5800x3D. B550 also avoids chipset fan and heat issues especially if you are going to stick with the typical GPU air cooler. Personally I'd stay away from anything funny in the motherboard name like DS3H or CSM and avoid lower tier x570 boards from MSI.

ASRock steel legend B50/X570 pops up quite a lot here on the forums and while I don't have experience with one it seems like a good pick and I'd start at $150 (and above) in normal retail price range for B550/X570 to avoid the less quality boards. MSI Tomahawk B450/B550/X570 should be a pretty good picks too as well as the ASRock Taichi B550/X570. Best thing regardless of what board you pick is to look at as many board reviews as possible to get an idea of pros and cons for your build. For example I didn't know Intel NIC's I225v family can be a bit of a pain when I got my B550 for my gaming rig. So when motherboard shopping keep an eye out for the network chip used.

 

[Vayra86]

With all the issues fixed, the ROG Strix B550-E is a solid pick. I had one and I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's not the cheapest board but it avoids a lot of X570's active cooling problems and whatnot. VRMs should be solid. The B550-F II is about the same board but with a slightly weaker VRM, absence of a debug code display and no native WiFi, if this isn't a problem and that board is cheaper, I recommend it.

However, one thing I noticed in your old thread; your system is capable of housing an NVIDIA RTX A2000 GPU without any other part replacement (including PSU) without any issue. Instead of a full rebuild, IMHO you should just grab one of those, even if it's technically paying $399 on an RTX 3060, it should be cheaper and yield more or less the same result. Not to mention you'd have a killer low profile GPU that oozes performance for its wattage level (no external power required, runs directly off PCIe slot).

I can't wait for those to go on sale, I'm seriously considering picking one up.

There is no magic here, why is the A2000 such a great thing? 75W of Ampere node gpu isnt going to be in the 3060 ballpark. It might occasionally. What are you basing it on that this GPU is so good? Spec wise its a full tier below a 3060.

 

[Dr. Dro]

There is no magic here, why is the A2000 such a great thing? 75W of Ampere node gpu isnt going to be in the 3060 ballpark. It might occasionally. What are you basing it on that this GPU is so good? Spec wise its a full tier below a 3060.

It's by far the most powerful low profile graphics card around, except maybe for it's Ada replacement (if it's already out, I haven't seen it anywhere). It's super tiny card that packs a serious punch and will work on any PC configuration on slot power alone.

Might not make much sense if you can afford to install a large traditional GPU with external power and all, but believe me this card has its audience

 

[WowRly]

The A2000 would probably have been the wisest idea, but I decided to continue with the built. I ordered a used ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming WIFI II AM4 for $240. I hope I didn't overpay for it because I didn't spend a ton of time looking up prices.

 

[Athlonite]

ordered a used ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming WIFI II AM4 for $240. I hope I didn't overpay for it because I didn't spend a ton of time looking up prices.

That's a good board you shouldn't have any problems with it and it also allows you to upgrade your cpu later any one of the 5xxx series AMD CPU's and still not have any major problems with regards to power

 

[Lost_Troll]

Yea, it is a good motherboard to start with and the chassis is a nice one as well.

For the video card, I would get that next if you can as the prices are stable right now. I would look at the ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6750 XT that can be had for 389.99$ right now or the RX6800 version for 484.99$. Link: Choose A Video Card - PCPartPicker

The power supply, I would look at a 750W or a 850W Bequiet, EVGA, Corsair or SeaSonic. Choose A Power Supply - PCPartPicker

 

[WowRly]

I have a strong bias against older release dates for anything I buy, but I would still go with the RX 6800 (Nov. 2020) over the RX 6750 XT (May 2022) between those two cards. I'll do some research on the prices of used vs new ones and also visit Micro Center this weekend to see what they have to offer. In regard to the CPU, if I were to decide to keep my other computer intact (so that I can continue to use that one too) or if I were to upgrade the CPU of my new computer in the near future, what would be decent choice for that CPU? I assume a newer CPU would improve the performance of the graphics card.

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[eidairaman1]

I have a strong bias against older release dates for anything I buy, but I would still go with the RX 6800 (Nov. 2020) over the RX 6750 XT (May 2022) between those two cards. I'll do some research on the prices of used vs new ones and also visit Micro Center this weekend to see what they have to offer. If I were to decide to keep my other computer intact or upgrade in the near future, what would be decent choice for a CPU? I assume a newer CPU would improve the performance of the graphics card.

You wont get far without a gpu upgrade. I suggest you use your existing cpu and possibly ram with a RX 6700XT+ in a ATX motherboard, not the proprietary crap hp/dell pushes out.

 

[Klemc]

5800X3D price dropped.

 

[eidairaman1]

5800X3D price dropped.

Yup as DDR 5 parts flood the market

 

[WowRly]

My 2nd to last sentence was poorly worded. I meant to say keep my old computer intact for continued use and get a separate CPU for the new computer I am building.

 

[Icon Charlie]

I have a strong bias against older release dates for anything I buy, but I would still go with the RX 6800 (Nov. 2020) over the RX 6750 XT (May 2022) between those two cards. I'll do some research on the prices of used vs new ones and also visit Micro Center this weekend to see what they have to offer. If I were to decide to keep my other computer intact or upgrade in the near future, what would be decent choice for a CPU? I assume a newer CPU would improve the performance of the graphics card.

Do your research on the video cards However if I had to choose between the 2 I go for a RX 6800 and undervolt the hell out of it.

Reason: IMHO AMD just cranks it's performance right to the wall causing excessive heat issues. I'm looking into RX6800 or 6800XT and if purchasing it I will undervolt it so I can run my machine cool.

 

[Hyderz]

is there a budget in mind you want to spend? for example $1000 usd?

 

[A Computer Guy]

My 2nd to last sentence was poorly worded. I meant to say keep my old computer intact for continued use and get a separate CPU for the new computer I am building.

I just had some additional thoughts based on your comment.

I think for around an additional $300 including the cost of that $240 motherboard you could have bought into AM5 7600x, B650, & DDR5 for about 30% uplift over your current CPU in general and set yourself up for at least 1 future CPU upgrade down the line. On the other hand you did save yourself that money to put into getting a better GPU while reusing your existing CPU and RAM so that savings is useful.

Since you already ordered the new motherboard you might as well continue the journey. If you want to keep your old pc intact 5800x3d for the new board is probably the end game of where you will want to be considering the cost of that motherboard. If that new CPU is not in the cards right now you could potentially replace/downgrade the CPU on the HP (with something compatible and cheap) and still transfer the 3700x to the new motherboard by also getting some new RAM, probably better ram than what you got in the HP, for the new motherboard. However you still need to get a new PSU and GPU for the new motherboard so you have two operational systems.

 

[WowRly]

No budget per se, I just don't want to cut too much into my savings intended for other expenses (originally I just planned to buy a <$400 graphics card) and if I do cut too much into it, I want to feel good about it because I got a lot of value for what I paid for.

 

[Lost_Troll]

No budget per se, I just don't want to cut too much into my savings intended for other expenses (originally I just planned to buy a <$400 graphics card) and if I do cut too much into it, I want to feel good about it because I got a lot of value for what I paid for.

This why you should put a budget together and you can buy the parts over time since you have a working PC. Also, once your build is done, you can sell the HP for couple hundred to help replenishing the funds spent.

You might also want to spend less on the case and look for something more around 100$ or less. The two biggest expenses in any build are the CPU and graphics card. Since you have already bought an AM4 motherboard, I would look at a 5800X3D CPU or the 5800X/5700X as alternates. For RAM, I would go with a 32Gb Kit (16Gb x2) since some of the newer games can push up to 20Gb in RAM usage. For storage, I would look at a 512Gb NvME SSD for a boot drive and a 1Tb NvME drive for your games., or a 2Tb for boot and game drive, which would be cheaper.

You can use PC part picker to put a list together and see what the total cost will be, which will help in keeping the cost of the build down.

 

[Icon Charlie]

No budget per se, I just don't want to cut too much into my savings intended for other expenses (originally I just planned to buy a <$400 graphics card) and if I do cut too much into it, I want to feel good about it because I got a lot of value for what I paid for.

This is one of the smartest things of late I've heard on this site. Trying to use your savings wisely.

Saving your money. Do your research.

IMHO if you can go with the X570.

Decide on what video card that you want to use.

I'm still using my AMD 5700 reference card and have posted my data on how well my rig ran playing Overwatch. And I play my games @1440P

You might want to decide to upgrade your monitor. I have a pixio PX329 32 inch 165hz monitor that performs very well with my rig.

When you upgrade you have to think about the entire package. So I suggest make up several wish lists of what you want to what you need.

I would look at a 512Gb NvME SSD for a boot drive and a 1Tb NvME drive for your games., or a 2Tb for boot and game drive, which would be cheaper.

I politely disagree or rather will add: It depends on what this rig is for. I still running on mine A Samsung 512 gb SSD with a WD 4tb HDD.

That standard Hard Drive costed me 60 bucks. 4TB for 60 bucks and it is used for storage.

The problem with NVME is that they run effing HOT... IMHO too hot for my satisfaction.

If the guy has money to spend then yes I would agree with you however it sounds like he really wants to not use as much as possible

32GB of Good DDR4 Ram is a good choice.

So ending make up your wish list of what you want and what you need and then decide.