AMD Confirms: RX 7600 Reference Cards in Retail will Not Have Power Connector Flaw

[MarsM4N]

This is the case with ALL 8pin PCIE cables that have the 6+2 snap-on config, its a BS non-issue to distract away from the fact that it is a better value proposition than the 4060 Ti which this website accoladed with a recommended badge for no real reason then had to backtrack on, if you can't plug in a bloody PCIE cable you really shouldnt be installing a GPU and is not even in the same league as the NV 12v cable bollocks which had actually destroyed PC's, the level of bias is unfuckinbelievable

Take your "Team Red" glasses off & re-read the statement. If if where a "non issue" AMD would have no reason to recall all reference cards.

This is not about which cards got the better value, it's about a AMD design failure on the backplate that needs a rework. Only on the reference cards.

 

[N/A]

4060 nonTi and 7600 are of equal value proposition, considered the former is lower power 115 and under volt friendly to 75 watts TGP. Traditionally AMD tries to slot in %10 cheaper, that always holds true. Nothing to brag about. But of course neither is worth 269 or 299, maybe bundled with a free triple a game.

 

[eidairaman1]

its not a matter of cost, its about performance, this is not an upgrade, this is just pathetic.

Says the rx 480 user

 

[wolf]

it won't affect any cards as it's a non-issue but suppose TPU have to throw some shit at AMD's way considering they released a better price/performance GPU than the "recommended" 4060 (sh)Ti

Pretty sure they just report and repost what's in the new cycle, TPU certainly don't "have to throw some shit AMD's way" for the sake of it. W1zzard has also explained his awards many times, it's abundantly clear why a gpu would or could earn that award, and it's not high praise.

if you can't plug in a bloody PCIE cable you really shouldnt be installing a GPU and is not even in the same league as the NV 12v cable bollocks which had actually destroyed PC's, the level of bias is unfuckinbelievable

Not sure I follow the logic, when the 12VHPWR cable issue was almost entire caused by non proper insertion, don't remember it destroying anything but a power connector either. I agree about the level of bias, minus the swearing, and from the other perspective.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I genuinely dont know why anyone would be interested in a card that preforms worse then a 3060ti

Money, or maybe they don't play video games. Not everyone needs or can have a fast graphics card

Pricing is still not perfect but when the MBA cards drop around 220, they will be interesting models

 

[usiname]

Pretty sure they just report and repost what's in the new cycle, TPU certainly don't "have to throw some shit AMD's way" for the sake of it. W1zzard has also explained his awards many times, it's abundantly clear why a gpu would or could earn that award, and it's not high praise.

TPU really fast forget the trolling survey that was posted 2 times, once under article and once more for 2 months on the main page of the site "Do you have thermal issues with your rx 7900"
Where are the surveys, "Did your rtx 4090 burned out?" or "Do you have bend issue with your LGA1700"?
TPU does not hide that they are trolls

 

[wolf]

TPU does not hide that they are trolls

Well I can't help you with that perception I'm afraid, despite plenty of nvidia jabs over the years, like the launch of FSR 2.0 and immediately declaring it the DLSS killer springing to mind. Some people only see or remember what they choose.

 

[usiname]

Well I can't help you with that perception I'm afraid, despite plenty of nvidia jabs over the years, like the launch of FSR 2.0 and immediately declaring it the DLSS killer springing to mind. Some people only see or remember what they choose.

Lol, telling the truth for once and not fabricating the things don't make TPU better, because this is their job, and yes FSR 2.0 is DLSS killer because it works on every GPU - Nvidia, Intel, AMD, not like the shitty DLSS that already is not supported from mine 3070 that is 2 years old.
Can they add support for DLSS3 to RTX3000, yes they can, will it be as good as if it is RTX4000? Only Nvidia knows. But they must add support for it, because is easy to deprecate all existing hardware each 2 years to make new shinny stuffs for the new gen and racket your old clients instead to start actually do your job and add support even if it make the new gen not that attractive. Everyone here start roaring when gtx 600 get 2 years more driver support than 10 year old hd6-7000, but there is no problem when Nvidia cut the support for 2 years old hardware

 

[wolf]

Lol, telling the truth for once and not fabricating the things don't make TPU better, because this is their job, and yes FSR 2.0 is DLSS killer because it works on every GPU - Nvidia, Intel, AMD, not like the shitty DLSS that already is not supported from mine 3070 that is 2 years old.

You sure got me, it works on everything? Now I know! If only that was actually enough... Maybe XeSS can actually achieve that status given how much better it is lol. And your 3070 lacks the requisite hardware spec for FG, but given how you talk about it, I doubt you'd use it anyway.

Shall we continue to go in circles? Or we could get back on topic of AMD's latest fumble.

 

[usiname]

You sure got me, it works on everything? Now I know! If only that was actually enough... Maybe XeSS can actually achieve that status given how much better it is lol. And your 3070 lacks the requisite hardware spec for FG, but given how you talk about it, I doubt you'd use it anyway.

Shall we continue to go in circles? Or we could get back on topic of AMD's latest fumble.

Well if you claim that XESS is better then you are blind and I don't see point to speak for graphics quality of upscaling techniques. Not to mention that XESS performance increase is miserable and you must to go to XESS performance to achieve same fps as FSR/DLSS on max quality level
Also, what is the point to speak with someone who has not brain to think once, 3070 lacks hardware? Then they must make DLSS3 to work with the existing hardware, as I said, its very easy to deprecate all existing hardware, to make new stuffs, the hard part is to make the new stuffs to work with the existing hardware, something that Nvidia proved that they can't while AMD can.

Edit: if the truth is so funny stop the drugs, or just go back to your "village of idiots" where you can be a king

 

[wolf]

Well if you claim that XESS is better then you are blind and I don't see point to speak for graphics quality of upscaling techniques. Not to mention that XESS performance increase is miserable and you must to go to XESS performance to achieve same fps as FSR/DLSS on max quality level
Also, what is the point to speak with someone who has not brain to think once, 3070 lacks hardware? Then they must make DLSS3 to work with the existing hardware, as I said, its very easy to deprecate all existing hardware, to make new stuffs, the hard part is to make the new stuffs to work with the existing hardware, something that Nvidia proved that they can't while AMD can.

Edit: if the truth is so funny stop the drugs, or just go back to your "village of idiots" where you can be a king

No need to resort to personal attacks, it also speaks volumes about your arguments and way you debate to label your opinion as the truth, given its at best a personal truth.

Interesting concept that sometimes to push a new boundary or innovate, new or upgraded hardware is needed. AMD didn't prove anything whatsoever, they just know their fan base very well and cater to them, because as we can see, when they do that a good subset of them will happily help with marketing and promotion free of charge. In another way, it's the only play they could make, you can't arrive late to the party, with a substandard solution... then lock it to your paltry market share and expect it to win many people over over...

XeSS 1.1 has basically levelled the performance field while giving DLSS like quality, and still being open, perhaps XeSS is both the DLSS and FSR killer lol. A quote from the comparison currently on TPU's homepage, but I suppose if they're trolls you can just ignore this to support your argument.

in Cyberpunk 2077, the DLSS, FSR 2.1 and XeSS 1.1 upscalers are practically identical in terms of performance gain over native TAA across all resolutions. For XeSS 1.1 especially it is a quite welcome upgrade to receive improved performance gains while using the DP4a instruction set, while also producing image quality better than FSR 2.1 with essentially the same performance.

 

[usiname]

No need to resort to personal attacks, it also speaks volumes about your arguments and way you debate to label your opinion as the truth, given its at best a personal truth.

Interesting concept that sometimes to push a new boundary or innovate, new or upgraded hardware is needed. AMD didn't prove anything whatsoever, they just know their fan base very well and cater to them, because as we can see, when they do that a good subset of them will happily help with marketing and promotion free of charge. In another way, it's the only play they could make, you can't arrive late to the party, with a substandard solution... then lock it to your paltry market share and expect it to win many people over over...

XeSS 1.1 has basically levelled the performance field while giving DLSS like quality, and still being open, perhaps XeSS is both the DLSS and FSR killer lol. A quote from the comparison currently on TPU's homepage, but I suppose if they're trolls you can just ignore this to support your argument.

Xess is better in one game OH GOD, ITS BETTER ALL ACROSS THE BOARD
Anyway, if you are happy with deprecated hardware in 2 years ok, I am not, especially when this is on purpose to make the new GPUs to look better and make 60 class card expensive as 80

 

[mama]

Seems they knew about the problem and were dealing with it before the reference cards were released to the market. Not an issue then.

Take your "Team Red" glasses off & re-read the statement. If if where a "non issue" AMD would have no reason to recall all reference cards.

This is not about which cards got the better value, it's about a AMD design failure on the backplate that needs a rework. Only on the reference cards.

There was no recall. That's why it isn't an issue. By the way, anyone who tells someone else to take their partisan "Team Red" glasses off clearly has their "Team Green" glasses on. Think on that before alleging bias.

 

[wolf]

Xess is better in one game OH GOD, ITS BETTER ALL ACROSS THE BOARD
Anyway, if you are happy with deprecated hardware in 2 years ok, I am not, especially when this is on purpose to make the new GPUs to look better and make 60 class card expensive as 80

It demonstrates that in the latest version, performance has been ~normalised against DLSS and FSR, the version I doubt will retrospectively updated in much, but that we can sure hope is in future implementations.

I don't follow, can you not still use the DLSS super resolution feature set? All you lack is FG which requires the Ada OFA. I'd argue DLSS has actually aged well, they continue to improve quality and performance, with a few significant steps along the way sine 2.0 (2.3.x, 2.4.3 and 2.5.1 spring to mind), and since reflex is always bundled with FG, we're getting that now too.

 

[AusWolf]

I genuinely dont know why anyone would be interested in a card that preforms worse then a 3060ti

Maybe because it's way cheaper, and not everybody needs 3060 Ti performance?

 

[Broken Processor]

I expect to see a granny sitting knitting assuring us that the recipe hasn't changed like it's some kind of family owned food product advertisement.
but it's not it's a new generation of GPU that's slightly over priced for zero generational performance improvement it's a shit show card like it's 40 series competition.

Oh and making sure the power connector fits in should be taken for granted but going by 4090 issues at launch I guess no amount of incompetence is off the table at team red or green these days.
I'm so glad AMD has reassured me that retail card's won't have the flaw when launched (sarcasm)

 

[HaKN !]

I genuinely dont know why anyone would be interested in a card that preforms worse then a 3060ti

My first card was GT210.... We all gotta start somewhere

EDIT: First card was NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE

NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE Specs

NVIDIA G72, 475 MHz, 8 Pixel Shaders, 5 Vertex Shaders, 8 TMUs, 4 ROPs, 64 MB DDR2, 405 MHz, 64 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Luisds]

I genuinely dont know why anyone would be interested in a card that preforms worse then a 3060ti

it's cheaper

 

[Readlight]

Does it work on 450, maybe 350W power supply

 

[sLowEnd]

Does it work on 450, maybe 350W power supply

That really depends on what the rest of the system is, and the quality of the PSU.

 

[john_]

I genuinely dont know why anyone would be interested in a card that preforms worse then a 3060ti

If you believe that gaming is only visuals and nothing more, it's logical to not know.

 

[BMfan80]

its not a matter of cost, its about performance, this is not an upgrade, this is just pathetic.

This card is about 20 fps faster than the 6600 it replaces, so it is a slight upgrade if you own a 6600.
If people stop comparing the card to Ti (which was never it's main competitor) models it isn't a bad card.

 

[nguyen]

Nice that W1zzard caught the issue early and informed AMD.

This would have been a bigger issue since the majority of users buying budget GPU would of course have a budget (or old) PSU, and those PSU only have 6+2pin PCIe cable.

TPU actually saved AMD's butt here, imagine rx7600 MBA buyers find out the "AMD experience" and swear never to buy AMD again

 

[john_]

My first card was GT210.... We all gotta start somewhere

EDIT: First card was NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE

NVIDIA GeForce 7500 LE Specs

NVIDIA G72, 475 MHz, 8 Pixel Shaders, 5 Vertex Shaders, 8 TMUs, 4 ROPs, 64 MB DDR2, 405 MHz, 64 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Oh my God. You gone from bad to worst

Spoiler

says someone who started with a SiS 6326

 

[TheDeeGee]

And as expected the entire topic is derailed with X vs Y performance comparisons.