ARC power limit bypass found

[qubit]

Interesting experiment, but I can see a dead GPU on the way. I'll bet a driver will stop this trick, too. Shame, people should be allowed to do what they want with their own property.

 

[Karath]

Interesting experiment, but I can see a dead GPU on the way. I'll bet a driver will stop this trick, too. Shame, people should be allowed to do what they want with their own property.

Why a dead GPU? This is nothing different than what I have been doing for decades.

GTX 465/470 could all be pushed to INSANE power levels and 50%+ clocks over stock. Still have a few flashed to permanently run like that. HD 2900XT/GT saw some similar overclocking margins. Ive got CPUs that haved lived for decades at double their stock power consumption on top of 50%-100% overclocks.

Gotta remember that ARC A770 was designed to take on higher end cards before it was delayed, the silicon is 3070 Ti sized... 300-350w is nothing for a die of that size on TSMC 6N.

 

[qubit]

Well, for your sake I hope you're right.

 

[A.Stables]

Why a dead GPU? This is nothing different than what I have been doing for decades.

GTX 465/470 could all be pushed to INSANE power levels and 50%+ clocks over stock. Still have a few flashed to permanently run like that. HD 2900XT/GT saw some similar overclocking margins. Ive got CPUs that haved lived for decades at double their stock power consumption on top of 50%-100% overclocks.

Gotta remember that ARC A770 was designed to take on higher end cards before it was delayed, the silicon is 3070 Ti sized... 300-350w is nothing for a die of that size on TSMC 6N.

True, been Tinkering/overclocking since the DIP Switch Days ; Along as your keeping things cool and not pushing insane power, all is well.
I remember my mates calling me mad when i cut holes in my PC's side panel and screwed in some 120mm Fans to cool my OC Voodoo 2 in SLI (with ghetto mounted heatsinks)

Have been looking at getting the A770LE for a while now and the nostalgia is strong with this one

Well, for your sake I hope you're right.

Same, but i have the impression the OP does have a good understanding of what is involved & the risk, I do hate breaking hardware....... 6800LE springs to mind that thing, great unlock potential but also high risk of death.
I do feel its always a little risky when unlocking something the manufacturer has hidden because something was broken to begin with ;

 

[TearsOfTelos]

nope, its a curve from all the way down at ~130w. You get ~120mhz or so per 10w at 130-150, ~90mhz or so per 10w from 150-170, and so on.


I dont think its the ROM area of flash, more like a partition of it that is used like NVRam on a MB. Regardless, it is very odd. And because its done like this, you can blow the power limit out to obscene levels with the bypass.

Snagged the top A770 graphics score on Time Spy.

Looks like i'm out, had the top score way longer than expected. I'm not able to beat my own score atm, even with the extra power. Hope this will still be around when i get my LN2 equipment back.

 

[Fouquin]

Looks like i'm out, had the top score way longer than expected. I'm not able to beat my own score atm, even with the extra power. Hope this will still be around when i get my LN2 equipment back.

I suppose you could always stay on the older driver, or revert to it, if they fix this.

 

[Karath]

Looks like i'm out, had the top score way longer than expected. I'm not able to beat my own score atm, even with the extra power. Hope this will still be around when i get my LN2 equipment back.

TBH I cant wait to see someone with a waterblock or LN2 pot do something with this. I just have top of the list RN because I found a driver quirk.

Honestly I wasnt expecting to take it with a lower average clock.

 

[TearsOfTelos]

Honestly I wasnt expecting to take it with a lower average clock.

Prob because of the faster Vram. My ASRock A770 is able to hit way higher clocks than my LE but only had 2000mhz Vram.

 

[Dristun]

Took 3rd place (I'm count dookula) but no matter how harder I push can't get higher. 2800+ needs something like 1.24-1.25v to be stable, I imagine, but it just doesn't get there. The software is infuriating, hahaha. Even at +200mv and 395W PL set (which it never reaches at these clocks btw, not even close) with all the different boost combos the inbuilt voltage curve doesn't allow it to go high enough. Wonder if a voltmod is possible.

 

[TearsOfTelos]

Took 3rd place (I'm count dookula) but no matter how harder I push can't get higher. 2800+ needs something like 1.24-1.25v to be stable, I imagine, but it just doesn't get there. The software is infuriating, hahaha. Even at +200mv and 395W PL set (which it never reaches at these clocks btw, not even close) with all the different boost combos the inbuilt voltage curve doesn't allow it to go high enough. Wonder if a voltmod is possible.

I think you are gonna need a better cooling solution. i got 2800+to be stable at the stock power limit 252W(asrock version) trying to go sub ambient. Even with pulling 340W i can't get the same clock speeds on the stock cooler.

 

[Dristun]

I think you are gonna need a better cooling solution. i got 2800+to be stable at the stock power limit 252W(asrock version) trying to go sub ambient. Even with pulling 340W i can't get the same clock speeds on the stock cooler.

Yeah, I mean, here's my "cooling solution"! It's -20 outside so I thought I'd give it a go. If it goes down to -30 next month I think I might try to properly set it up completely outside on the balcony.

 

[TearsOfTelos]

Yeah, I mean, here's my "cooling solution"! It's -20 outside so I thought I'd give it a go. If it goes down to -30 next month I think I might try to properly set it up completely outside on the balcony.

nice. i did something like that as well. made a quick cardboard duct and taped a big desk fan to it to make sure all the cold air got blasted into the gpu.

took rank 1 again but don't know for how long. 4 out of the top 5 gotten their personal bests today.

 

[yonson]

Thanks! This has made a huge difference with my GPU! At the 228W limit I was maxed out at 7629, now at the 273W limit I'm up to 7747, but the ambient temp is killing me, it's currently 30c where my test bench is located.

I haven't seen any mention of it here, but I found a youtube video with a way to enable fan control that helped a ton.
No affiliation.
How to ENABLE Custom Fan Profile on INTEL ARC GPUs - Change fan speed = Avoid overheating - YouTube

 

[5mall5nail5]

So I was trying this today and I cannot get it to work. Running Arc A770 LE with driver version 31.0.101.4369 - does this hack/trick still work?

 

[TearsOfTelos]

So I was trying this today and I cannot get it to work. Running Arc A770 LE with driver version 31.0.101.4369 - does this hack/trick still work?

this hasn't worked for a few driver versions. this last time i was able to do it was with diver version 31.0.101.4123 (Beta) but didn't get decent results. iirc i set my best scores with version 31.0.101.4032 (edit: 8 out of the top 10 gpu time spy scores are set with this version )

 

[Solaris17]

this hasn't worked for a few driver versions. this last time i was able to do it was with diver version 31.0.101.4123 (Beta) but didn't get decent results. iirc i set my best scores with version 31.0.101.4032 (edit: 8 out of the top 10 gpu time spy scores are set with this version )

These are the drivers to date by far. Just can’t be modded

 

[Godhand007]

These are the drivers to date by far. Just can’t be modded

PL increase still works with Asus BiFrost trick.

 

[5mall5nail5]

PL increase still works with Asus BiFrost trick.

Does it apply to Intel LE though?

 

[Godhand007]

Does it apply to Intel LE though?

Yes

 

[bug]

I have been digging around in ARC drivers for awhile to find fixes to some display related issues and found a way to reliably extend the GPU power limit slider in ARC control.

1. Set power limit in ARC Control to maximum
2. Kill the process for ARC Control
3. Stop the Intel ARC Control Service
4. disable/enable the GPU in device manager or use CRU Restart64 application to do this for you.
5. Start ARC Control
6. Start Intel ARC Control Service
7. Set the power limit to its new maximum

Typical steps one follows when trying to fix display related issues

Also congrats, you managed to burn through ~80% more power for 10 fps more
Nice find tho.