System Name | Sleepy Painter |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
Sadly, even on boards w/ external clockgen, you can't get all that far (IIRC). Might be something fun to try on an older platform though.Could probably mount a 120mm AIO block on most chipsets. It would be fun to consider on a BCLK board.
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
Moving GPU away affected in a positive way only when gaming. If I set the gpu fan manually It was actually dropped the temps of the chipset, when fans are set to max.Not really mind boggling. You've just confirmed what's been mentioned already:
The heatsink for that X570S board, is at its limits.
(or, you're sucking warm air from the GPU's back onto the chipset. Try a laptop's fan? Or, try to set your lil noctua when it arrives to 'blow across' the heatsink, instead of 'ontop' of it.)
Considering you have already DRASTICALLY dropped temps by moving the GPU, and have a front intake fan blowing by the chipset, I think you've already reached the end of your journey
(but, were not left 'empty handed')
I still don't blame you for trying. Used to do the same w/ my GPUs back in AGP days. (Tho TBF, on my X800 GTO, it made big OCing improvements.)
If you want to 'go further' for personal-enrichment, go for it! But, you'll be looking at trying to find (or have made/make) a ULP Copper Heatsink.
Processor | AMD R7 5800X3D |
---|---|
Motherboard | Asus Crosshair VIII Dark Hero |
Cooling | Thermalright Frozen Edge 360, 3x TL-B12 V2, 2x TL-B12 V1 |
Memory | 2x8 G.Skill Trident Z Royal 3200C14, 2x8GB G.Skill Trident Z Black and White 3200 C14 |
Video Card(s) | Zotac 4070 Ti Trinity OC |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB, SN850X 2TB, SN770 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 50UP7100 |
Case | Fractal Torrent Compact |
Audio Device(s) | JBL Bar 700 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Vertex GX-1000, Monster HDP1800 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G213 |
VR HMD | Oculus 3 |
Software | Yes |
Benchmark Scores | Yes |
Sadly, even on boards w/ external clockgen, you can't get all that far (IIRC). Might be something fun to try on an older platform though.
apologies for drifting the topic, but: Back in the 939-AM2 days, OCing the FSB was quite the 'thing'. I can't find the pic, but ATI even had high FSB-OC as a selling point in marketing slides for Manta/RS580/RD580.
Processor | Ryzen 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g |
Cooling | Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A) |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX |
Display(s) | LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k) |
Case | Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window) |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220-VB |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52 |
Mouse | Mionix Naos Pro |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe with browns |
Software | W10 22H2 Pro x64 |
HmmmYou can try all the tricks in the book, but honestly even the passive X570S heatsinks do not have enough surface area to be good for cooling. On the ACE MAX it's just one large flat slab, so if you wanted to compensate with airflow you would have to ensure a lot of air moving over the entire thing. If you had something with dense fins combined with a lot of active direct airflow it could help (see Gigabyte VRM heatsinks design for X570/B550 Aorus Elite and Master), but that would be hard to design without running into height clearance problems. Being necessarily covered by a 300W GPU doesn't help either.
Have you tried Honeywell PTM7950? Works excellently for laptop CPU/GPU dies, where consumer thermal paste often does not have enough thickness for good contact.
System Name | ab┃ob |
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Processor | 7800X3D┃5800X3D |
Motherboard | B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact |
Cooling | NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67 |
Memory | 64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000 |
Storage | 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550 |
Case | Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5 |
Hmmm
What would be a good temp? I dont know if mine has any issues?
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
Your system fans are at low speed. Increasing the rpm may work in a good way.
System Name | Sleepy Painter |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
Yup. I think I have one of those boards and used it w/ a pinmod'd Xeon. -Was my 'garage PC' with a healthy OC. I still want to find some choice old kit to do some experiments in cooling and shielding on. Prolly have it already, between my DFI NF4 board and the aforementioned Gigabyte P45 board.It would be fun on a P45 Gigabyte someone has like a 766FSB OC on one of those boards on hwbot it's amazing how far that chipset can be pushed.
Hmmm
What would be a good temp? I dont know if mine has any issues?
Agreed.It's still X570 so anywhere between 60-80 is just fine. There are too many case and mobo and GPU configurations to account for, some affect the chipset less than others.
System Name | PCGOD |
---|---|
Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Thats a Classic TT. I know TR had chipset heatsinks, I think Zalman too. This was innovation then
Processor | Ryzen 5700x |
---|---|
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570S Aero G R1.1 BiosF5g |
Cooling | Noctua NH-C12P SE14 w/ NF-A15 HS-PWM Fan 1500rpm |
Memory | Micron DDR4-3200 2x32GB D.S. D.R. (CT2K32G4DFD832A) |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX 6800 - Asus Tuf |
Storage | Kingston KC3000 1TB & 2TB & 4TB Corsair MP600 Pro LPX |
Display(s) | LG 27UL550-W (27" 4k) |
Case | Be Quiet Pure Base 600 (no window) |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC1220-VB |
Power Supply | SuperFlower Leadex V Gold Pro 850W ATX Ver2.52 |
Mouse | Mionix Naos Pro |
Keyboard | Corsair Strafe with browns |
Software | W10 22H2 Pro x64 |
Your system fans are at low speed. Increasing the rpm may work in a good way.
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
I think it is for side fans. Not sure what purpose it would serve thoughMy chipset creeps up 10-12c when my GPU is doing ~300w
I don't really mind.
Seeing that open space beside your ram makes me confused about what your case actually wants to do![]()
System Name | Sleepy Painter |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
Not sure about this site's trustworthiness (just yet), but they have a lot of older chipset coolers still for sale. (ebay pricing was not great.)Thats a Classic TT. I know TR had chipset heatsinks, I think Zalman too. This was innovation then
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
Also, removing the front magnetic dust filter has helped reducing 4-5 degree celsius .Not sure about this site's trustworthiness (just yet), but they have a lot of older chipset coolers still for sale. (ebay pricing was not great.)
Coolers/Fans - Coolers (Chipset) - Page 1 - AeroCooler
aerocooler.com
System Name | Sleepy Painter |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
I wish there were 'pleated' style filters for fans. Flat-sheet filters are terrible for static pressure and airflow.Also, removing the front magnetic dust filter has helped reducing 4-5 degree celsius .
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
System Name | Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max |
Cooling | TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res |
Memory | 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX |
Storage | 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB |
Display(s) | Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400 |
Case | TT Kandalf L.C.S. |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum |
Mouse | G502 Hero |
Keyboard | G19s |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 3 |
Software | Win 11 Pro x64 |
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
It is already down clocked to minium available in bios settings.65 down to 50 not bad you might try lowering PCH voltage a bit too and see if that improves temps any provided you don't encounter any instability due to it.
System Name | Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max |
Cooling | TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res |
Memory | 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX |
Storage | 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB |
Display(s) | Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400 |
Case | TT Kandalf L.C.S. |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum |
Mouse | G502 Hero |
Keyboard | G19s |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 3 |
Software | Win 11 Pro x64 |
That’s a huge jump!It is already down clocked to minium available in bios settings.
With front panel completely removed, it become like this:
View attachment 303969
Now it's down to Noctua mini fan. Let's see if it could help..
System Name | MSI-MEG |
---|---|
Processor | AMD Ryzen 9 3900X |
Motherboard | MSI MEG X570S ACE MAX |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism + Thermal Grizzly |
Memory | 32 GB |
Video Card(s) | MSI Suprim X RTX 3080 |
Storage | 500 GB MSI Spatium nvme + 500 GB WD nvme + 2 TB Seagate HDD + 2 TB Seagate HDD |
Display(s) | 27" LG 144HZ 2K ULTRAGEAR |
Case | MSI MPG Velox Airflow 100P |
Audio Device(s) | Altec Lansing |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | HP OMEN REACTOR |
Keyboard | Corsair K68 |
Software | Windows10 LTSC 64 bit |
And I want moreThat’s a huge jump!
System Name | Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts) |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max |
Cooling | TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res |
Memory | 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX |
Storage | 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB |
Display(s) | Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400 |
Case | TT Kandalf L.C.S. |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum |
Mouse | G502 Hero |
Keyboard | G19s |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 3 |
Software | Win 11 Pro x64 |
Don‘t get greedy mine idles around 48 at 22 in fact 23C ambient I just checked in a very airflow limited case. It’s always gonna run warm you’re aiming for lower load temps. Having an MSI board that technically has a smaller cooler footprint than yours I“m totally fine with mine maxing out a 56C My current ambient is 23C which for me personally is “hot” for me as a human. I’ll see what kind of load temps I get at an ambient I consider uncomfortable. I still expect no higher than 58CAnd I want more![]()
System Name | AlderLake |
---|---|
Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
System Name | Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts) |
---|---|
Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max |
Cooling | TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res |
Memory | 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX |
Storage | 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB |
Display(s) | Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400 |
Case | TT Kandalf L.C.S. |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum |
Mouse | G502 Hero |
Keyboard | G19s |
VR HMD | Oculus Quest 3 |
Software | Win 11 Pro x64 |
But you’re comparing Intel? I’m just surprised how his higher end MSI X570S runs so much hotter than my lesser MSI X570S
System Name | AlderLake |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
But you’re comparing Intel? I’m just surprised how his higher end MSI X570S runs so much hotter than my lesser MSI X570S