i7 10750H keeps dropping down to 0.78ghz

[A&P211]

If your i7-10750H maxed out at 82W either you had a finely tuned undervolt or your laptop couldn't deliver 4.2/4.3GHz in full load multicore benchmarks.

I have an i7-9750H and to deliver its maximum multicore clock (4GHz all core) in Cinebench R23 without undervolt this CPU needs 100W.
With -130mV in cache and -220mV in core consumption in the same test it goes down to 60W.

The 10750H is pretty much a 9750H with slightly higher clocks and slight efficiency improvements.
Without undervolt to reach 4.2/4.3GHz all core in the same Cinebench I would bet on something between 110-120W.

The laptop that I had was a MSI GE75, 10750h and 2070 super. It had a slight undervolt, .055-. It ran at the full 4.2ghz and a slight overclock to 4.31ghz through the bclk at 102.5mhz. But I installed the heatsink from the i9 model that had extra heat pipes, it ran about 5C cooler than the i7 normal heatsink, plus I used liquid metal TIM.

 

[PHVM_BR]

The laptop that I had was a MSI GE75, 10750h and 2070 super. It had a slight undervolt, .055-. It ran at the full 4.2ghz and a slight overclock to 4.31ghz through the bclk at 102.5mhz. But I installed the heatsink from the i9 model that had extra heat pipes, it ran about 5C cooler than the i7 normal heatsink, plus I used liquid metal TIM.

Power consumption depends on the type of load.
Even at full load on all cores consumption varies greatly depending on the test.
For example, multicore Cinebench R23 requires considerably more consumption than AIDA64 CPU Stress Test or CPUz. Just as Prime95 demands even more from Cinebench...

Another factor that makes a difference is the temperature of the chip, the higher it is, the more energy is wasted.

If with this slight undervolt your 10750H consumed 82W in Cinebench R23 at 4.2GHz all core it is impressive.
Maybe if your temperature was below 80°C, even then...

 

[A&P211]

Power consumption depends on the type of load.
Even at full load on all cores consumption varies greatly depending on the test.
For example, multicore Cinebench R23 requires considerably more consumption than AIDA64 CPU Stress Test or CPUz. Just as Prime95 demands even more from Cinebench...

Another factor that makes a difference is the temperature of the chip, the higher it is, the more energy is wasted.

If with this slight undervolt your 10750H consumed 82W in Cinebench R23 at 4.2GHz all core it is impressive.
Maybe if your temperature was below 80°C, even then...

The power comsumption said around 83w with BOINC running at 100%. Its like protein folding, but that was at 4.3ghz, not 4.2ghz. At 4.3, the temps stayed at 89C, with liquid metal and the extra i9 heatsink.

 

[Vows1x]

And no one mentioned the elepfant in the room


I.....actually have the same laptop(not using it right now,but i took it apart at least 4 times in the past) and remember that the whole series came with liquid metal on the CPU. Poorly applied,leaking around but still...liquid metal. So you apply anything else but LM,don't expect any good results.ASUS did that on purpose,those CPU's run hot. I also remember that there was that blue paste instead of thermal pads,which took me hours to remove completely and if YOU just left it there,thinking it would do as before,here is your other mistake.
He...i even have pictures,so here you go:

One before(blue paste,bad stuff):
View attachment 306332

And one after("CLEAN" is my middle name ):
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Do you know why it's drawing 50-60 watts?

And also I've opened up this laptop twice in the past year. For LM, like I said I didn't want to risk re-applying since it's tricky so I went with thermal paste. Doesn't do the job as much but it works in this case. And yeah Asus just did not apply the LM properly on this laptop.

 

[PHVM_BR]

The power comsumption said around 83w with BOINC running at 100%. Its like protein folding, but that was at 4.3ghz, not 4.2ghz. At 4.3, the temps stayed at 89C, with liquid metal and the extra i9 heatsink.

83W in which test?

 

[dnm_TX]

Do you know why it's drawing 50-60 watts?

You need to figure this out on your end. Something in the background is working very hard in order to draw so much power,which is not normal.
Any PC/Laptop if it's set up properly(disable unnecessary services etc.) shouldn't be drawing more then 5-6 watts on idle. Here i'm just gonna show you example. This is 2nd generation CPU with just browser open,sitting idle:

 

[Vows1x]

You need to figure this out on your end. Something in the background is working very hard in order to draw so much power,which is not normal.
Any PC/Laptop if it's set up properly(disable unnecessary services etc.) shouldn't be drawing more then 5-6 watts on idle. Here i'm just gonna show you example. This is 2nd generation CPU with just browser open,sitting idle:
View attachment 306628

The thing is that it doesn't do it consistently. Sometimes on idle, it draws low power, sometimes it draws way more. So it makes it hard to track what is causing it.

 

[dnm_TX]

Keep the Task Manager open all the time and when you notice something abnormal or let's say you're doing nothing but the fans start ramping up like it's ready to take off,TM should show you which process/service is responsible. This is the easiest i can think of right now.

 

[Vows1x]

Keep the Task Manager open all the time and when you notice something abnormal or let's say you're doing nothing but the fans start ramping up like it's ready to take off,TM should show you which process/service is responsible. This is the easiest i can think of right now.

Alright then

 

[A&P211]

83W in which test?

XTU

 

[PHVM_BR]

XTU

As I said, different loads.

In Cinebench R23 the 10750H can consume more than 110W (without undervolt).

 

[A&P211]

As I said, different loads.

In Cinebench R23 the 10750H can consume more than 110W (without undervolt).

I've tried many different loads, I dont ever remember seeing over 90w.

 

[Vows1x]

Keep the Task Manager open all the time and when you notice something abnormal or let's say you're doing nothing but the fans start ramping up like it's ready to take off,TM should show you which process/service is responsible. This is the easiest i can think of right now.

I have done this. No service causes this to happen. I immediately start up the system and the fans do not even ramp up. It is already power limit throttling and it's running at 40-60 watts already.

I have tried changing power plans, limiting the clock speeds (not disabling turbo boost just reducing the turbo boost frequency), I have tried everything.

This thing is inconsistent so I cannot track the root cause. I can leave the laptop for the night, come back the next day and it will be normal for a while then it happens. If I'm lucky it will be normal the whole time I use it. I just don't know.

I have school coming up and I can't even use this laptop. I use this laptop for everything.

I have done this. No service causes this to happen. I immediately start up the system and the fans do not even ramp up. It is already power limit throttling and it's running at 40-60 watts already.

I have tried changing power plans, limiting the clock speeds (not disabling turbo boost just reducing the turbo boost frequency), I have tried everything.

This thing is inconsistent so I cannot track the root cause. I can leave the laptop for the night, come back the next day and it will be normal for a while then it happens. If I'm lucky it will be normal the whole time I use it. I just don't know.

I have school coming up and I can't even use this laptop. I use this laptop for everything.

Also when I shut down the laptop, the screen, my peripherals that have RGB lighting and my external monitor go off(for the monitor no input is being received) but the keyboard backlight of the laptop remains on as well as the fans I think. And that happens inconsistently but has been happening a lot now for the past couple of days now. Both with and without an undervolt.

 

[dnm_TX]

Did you mess with that Armoury Crate Tool by any chance? Reset all settings there,whatever you can turn off inside,do it. See it might get better this way.

 

[Vows1x]

Did you mess with that Armoury Crate Tool by any chance? Reset all settings there,whatever you can turn off inside,do it. See it might get better this way.

The thing is I uninstalled it. It’s just broken software imo. But if I need to use it, I don’t mind

 

[dnm_TX]

The thing is I uninstalled it. It’s just broken software imo. But if I need to use it, I don’t mind

Nope.Just make sure that it's uninstalled properly and there isn't some service left behind causing all this(research in internet about this).
Other then that i honestly have no other ideas at the moment.Let's hope somebody else pitch in,give a helping hand

 

[Vows1x]

Nope.Just make sure that it's uninstalled properly and there isn't some service left behind causing all this(research in internet about this).
Other then that i honestly have no other ideas at the moment.Let's hope somebody else pitch in,give a helping hand

Alright then I’ll see

 

[unclewebb]

The first screenshot posted shows lots of stuff running in the background. You will never see low and consistent power consumption if there is stuff constantly creating random loads.

Either use the Task Manager to track down what is running in the background or better yet, use Process Explorer from Sysinternals. It is the best tool for the job.

Process Explorer - Sysinternals

Find out what files, registry keys and other objects processes have open, which DLLs they have loaded, and more.

learn.microsoft.com

My 10850K averages about 0.1% in the C0 state with Google Chrome minimized to the task bar. Temperatures are nice and low because the cores are all doing next to nothing. It always surprises me how much bloatware people install on their computers and then they wonder why their computer runs like crap. Spend a day finding out and eliminating tasks running in the background that do not need to be running in the background all of the time.

Autoruns is another powerful tool I recommend.

Autoruns - Sysinternals

See what programs are configured to startup automatically when your system boots and you login.

learn.microsoft.com

 

[Vows1x]

The first screenshot posted shows lots of stuff running in the background. You will never see low and consistent power consumption if there is stuff constantly creating random loads.

View attachment 306751

Either use the Task Manager to track down what is running in the background or better yet, use Process Explorer from Sysinternals. It is the best tool for the job.

Process Explorer - Sysinternals

Find out what files, registry keys and other objects processes have open, which DLLs they have loaded, and more.

learn.microsoft.com

My 10850K averages about 0.1% in the C0 state with Google Chrome minimized to the task bar. Temperatures are nice and low because the cores are all doing next to nothing. It always surprises me how much bloatware people install on their computers and then they wonder why their computer runs like crap. Spend a day finding out and eliminating tasks running in the background that do not need to be running in the background all of the time.

View attachment 306752

Autoruns is another powerful tool I recommend.

Autoruns - Sysinternals

See what programs are configured to startup automatically when your system boots and you login.

learn.microsoft.com

This is one thing I always do. I already use autoruns. Because I hate it when I have processes running. Sometimes I spend close to a whole day just disabling junk. And I also use ghost spectre windows as well.
But I’ll look into process explorer

This is one thing I always do. I already use autoruns. Because I hate it when I have processes running. Sometimes I spend close to a whole day just disabling junk. And I also use ghost spectre windows as well.
But I’ll look into process explorer

Right now it’s using 11-15 watts with Firefox and Spotify running

This is one thing I always do. I already use autoruns. Because I hate it when I have processes running. Sometimes I spend close to a whole day just disabling junk. And I also use ghost spectre windows as well.
But I’ll look into process explorer


Right now it’s using 11-15 watts with Firefox and Spotify running

Right now it’s looking normal but there’s some inconsistencies. I tried reducing the turbo boost frequency but it doesn’t even apply it. It still boosts pass it. At first I could do that. But after I reinstalled windows, I can’t. I don’t know if something is overriding it. I have armoury crate uninstalled

 

[Moorole]

I'd suggest a clean reinstall of windows and then don't use armoury crate but g-helper (https://github.com/seerge/g-helper/releases) which actually is a purified armoury crate without crap and replaces myasus also. then apply your undervolt with throttlestop again and check if you reach low cpu usage in idle which it should do

 

[Vows1x]

I'd suggest a clean reinstall of windows and then don't use armoury crate but g-helper (https://github.com/seerge/g-helper/releases) which actually is a purified armoury crate without crap and replaces myasus also. then apply your undervolt with throttlestop again and check if you reach low cpu usage in idle which it should do

Did a clean install about a month ago and same thing. I used g-helper in the past but I’ll try it again. I am using atrofac currently

doing a dism scan to see first.

 

[unclewebb]

I tried reducing the turbo boost frequency but it doesn’t even apply it

Post screenshots so I can see what you adjusted.

Some Intel CPUs report high Watts when idle. This number is not measured power consumption so it is not that important. You cannot compare this number from one computer to the next.

The important number is C0%. This number should be under 1% when idle and under 0.5% would be even better.

Right now it’s using 11-15 watts with Firefox and Spotify running

Turn these two off when testing so you have a comparable baseline.

 

[Vows1x]

Post screenshots so I can see what you adjusted.

Some Intel CPUs report high Watts when idle. This number is not measured power consumption so it is not that important. You cannot compare this number from one computer to the next.

The important number is C0%. This number should be under 1% when idle and under 0.5% would be even better.


Turn these two off when testing so you have a comparable baseline.

Immediately after booting up windows. Guessing C-states are disabled?

This is what I changed really. Just to limit the frequency the cpu turbo boosts to. But it still passes it. (Value isn't ideal just to test)

I was able to limit it before I reinstalled Windows.
But then when I was trying to use Process Lasso to install the bitsum plan, it said it is OEM locked. Which has never happened before. Maybe there could be something there?

It's staying around the base clock speed (2.5-2.7) but drawing 45

have pl1 set to 45 and pl2 to 55. I found that because anything else just gets the Voltage Regulators to throttle. Regardless of a long or short period of time. But it's inconsistent. I was playing around yesterday and it was drawing high power but the Voltage Regulators didn't show up for a while, did, but since it was yellow it throttled once I believe.

And also do I need to clamp. I have clamp for pl2 checked. It's to allow the cpu to throttle down to the base or?

Autoruns. Most of the stuff are either set to manual or disabled in services. And also Some I have unticked and deleted as well.

What usually runs in task manager. From boot. Only thing is Opera GX which I am using to type this. And also G-helper is an alternative to Armoury crate to help control the fans.

Process explorer as of typing this.

Limit reasons as of now. It is past pl1 . It hovers from 43-45/46 and goes down to that but cpu still is running at 2.5-2.7ghz.

Immediately after booting up windows. Guessing C-states are disabled?

This is what I changed really. Just to limit the frequency the cpu turbo boosts to. But it still passes it. (Value isn't ideal just to test)

I was able to limit it before I reinstalled Windows.
But then when I was trying to use Process Lasso to install the bitsum plan, it said it is OEM locked. Which has never happened before. Maybe there could be something there?

It's staying around the base clock speed (2.5-2.7) but drawing 45

have pl1 set to 45 and pl2 to 55. I found that because anything else just gets the Voltage Regulators to throttle. Regardless of a long or short period of time. But it's inconsistent. I was playing around yesterday and it was drawing high power but the Voltage Regulators didn't show up for a while, did, but since it was yellow it throttled once I believe.

And also do I need to clamp. I have clamp for pl2 checked. It's to allow the cpu to throttle down to the base or?

Autoruns. Most of the stuff are either set to manual or disabled in services. And also Some I have unticked and deleted as well.

What usually runs in task manager. From boot. Only thing is Opera GX which I am using to type this. And also G-helper is an alternative to Armoury crate to help control the fans.

Process explorer as of typing this.

Limit reasons as of now. It is past pl1 . It hovers from 43-45/46 and goes down to that but cpu still is running at 2.5-2.7ghz.

I am on a high performance power plan though. Setting it to my power saver plan also does nothing.

Immediately after booting up windows. Guessing C-states are disabled?

This is what I changed really. Just to limit the frequency the cpu turbo boosts to. But it still passes it. (Value isn't ideal just to test)

I was able to limit it before I reinstalled Windows.
But then when I was trying to use Process Lasso to install the bitsum plan, it said it is OEM locked. Which has never happened before. Maybe there could be something there?

It's staying around the base clock speed (2.5-2.7) but drawing 45

have pl1 set to 45 and pl2 to 55. I found that because anything else just gets the Voltage Regulators to throttle. Regardless of a long or short period of time. But it's inconsistent. I was playing around yesterday and it was drawing high power but the Voltage Regulators didn't show up for a while, did, but since it was yellow it throttled once I believe.

And also do I need to clamp. I have clamp for pl2 checked. It's to allow the cpu to throttle down to the base or?

Autoruns. Most of the stuff are either set to manual or disabled in services. And also Some I have unticked and deleted as well.

What usually runs in task manager. From boot. Only thing is Opera GX which I am using to type this. And also G-helper is an alternative to Armoury crate to help control the fans.

Process explorer as of typing this.

Limit reasons as of now. It is past pl1 . It hovers from 43-45/46 and goes down to that but cpu still is running at 2.5-2.7ghz.


I am on a high performance power plan though. Setting it to my power saver plan also does nothing.

And with C% there are all below 10. Nothing running apart from the stuff in the screenshots. this time opera GX closed and just task manager running

Also played CSGO for some time. It went smooth for a while. Pl 1 looked like it was throttling but cpu was still boosting. Temps were hovering between 60-70 and also. Frames were between 200-300 fps but dropped later. There was constant pl1 throttling I think and also frame drops to 100 there about sometimes even double digits (cpu was clocking down). But cpu stayed between the range of base clock speed the whole time.

 

[Moorole]

afterburner for me added like 5% system cpu usage. try without afterburner. apparently gpu undervolt is applied even if afterburner is off. cpu usage caused by sensor usage or something like this. my cpu usage on a 4800hs with firefox plus word plus task manager is 1%

 

[dnm_TX]

@Vows1x what about drivers? Did you install all the necessary once after the fresh install? Like chipset,nvme etc. Post screenshot of your Device Manager.

P.S. In your Task Manager screenshots it shows 9% CPU use,and whatever you posted doesn't realy amount to that. Scroll down to System and see where that usage coming from.