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i7 10750H keeps dropping down to 0.78ghz

unclewebb

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This is what I changed really. Just to limit the frequency the cpu turbo boosts to. But it still passes it.
If that Windows power plan setting does not work, do not use it.

I adjust the turbo ratios in the ThrottleStop FIVR window to control the maximum CPU speed.
 

Vows1x

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afterburner for me added like 5% system cpu usage. try without afterburner. apparently gpu undervolt is applied even if afterburner is off. cpu usage caused by sensor usage or something like this. my cpu usage on a 4800hs with firefox plus word plus task manager is 1%
Alright I’ll give that try

If that Windows power plan setting does not work, do not use it.

I adjust the turbo ratios in the ThrottleStop FIVR window to control the maximum CPU speed.
Yeah I wasn’t planning on. But it’s locked. So it makes sense on why it’s not working I guess.

@Vows1x what about drivers? Did you install all the necessary once after the fresh install? Like chipset,nvme etc. Post screenshot of your Device Manager.

P.S. In your Task Manager screenshots it shows 9% CPU use,and whatever you posted doesn't realy amount to that. Scroll down to System and see where that usage coming from.
Haven’t touched those. Mainly just graphics, Ethernet,wifi and audio

P.S. In your Task Manager screenshots it shows 9% CPU use,and whatever you posted doesn't realy amount to that. Scroll down to System and see where that usage coming from
In task manager or in process explorer? In task manager, is it details?
 
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Haven’t touched those.
Good JOB :laugh:
In task manager, is it details?
Scroll down to:
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g-helper lets yoiu stop all the asus tasks. plus removing msi afterburner plus deleting other senseless autostart programs should reduce your cpu usage to 1-2 percent. you can order your tasks by cpu usage so youll see straight away what is consuming cpu
 

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g-helper lets yoiu stop all the asus tasks. plus removing msi afterburner plus deleting other senseless autostart programs should reduce your cpu usage to 1-2 percent. you can order your tasks by cpu usage so youll see straight away what is consuming cpu
G-helper does?
And also I was going to look into afterburner since apparently you don’t need it open for the undervolt to work. And the auto start programs I have done again and again

On the high performance plan, after restarting. It’s around 12-12 watts idle now. Did spike up to 54 for a split second when I just logged in though.

Cpu usage at 2 is percent and is pl1 is throttling.

It dropped back to below the pl1 limit.
Under the details tab in task manager, this is what is there.
 

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unclewebb

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Open the ThrottleStop C States window when your computer is idle. It looks like you have disabled all of the low power C states. That would explain the sky high power consumption at light load. My cores average over 99% in the low power C7 state when my computer is idle with only Chrome open and minimized.

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Open the ThrottleStop C States window when your computer is idle. It looks like you have disabled all of the low power C states. That would explain the sky high power consumption at light load. My cores average over 99% in the low power C7 state when my computer is idle with only Chrome open and minimized.

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It looks like I have. Just restarted and CO% is around 3-4 but spikes up and when I check the c-states, c7 is 0 for all on idle.

But this isn’t dependent on power plan? Or is it?

It looks like I have. Just restarted and CO% is around 3-4 but spikes up and when I check the c-states, c7 is 0 for all on idle.

But this isn’t dependent on power plan? Or is it?
And I think only c1 is enabled
 

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unclewebb

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Bingo. That is your problem. Intel CPUs run much hotter when all of the low power C states are disabled.

This can be dependent on the power plan settings. You can try different power plans and watch the C States window to see if the C states start working.

If you open up the entire C States window, on the right hand side is a feature that can try to fix these C state issues.

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Check the C States - AC box, select the Off radio button and press Apply. Do the same thing again but this time after you check the C States - AC box, select the On radio button and press Apply again. This resets some of the C state related settings within your Windows power plan.

If you still do not have any idle C state activity being reported, check your BIOS. Enable the C states in the BIOS if you have this option available.

I remember now that some manufacturers were deliberately disabling all of the C states. This is a really dumb thing to be doing to a laptop. Disabling the C states also disables the maximum turbo multipliers so you end up with both a hotter CPU and a slower running CPU when lightly loaded. Dumb and dumb.
 

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Bingo. That is your problem. Intel CPUs run much hotter when all of the low power C states are disabled.

This can be dependent on the power plan settings. You can try different power plans and watch the C States window to see if the C states start working.

If you open up the entire C States window, on the right hand side is a feature that can try to fix these C state issues.

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Check the C States - AC box, select the Off radio button and press Apply. Do the same thing again but this time after you check the C States - AC box, select the On radio button and press Apply again. This resets some of the C state related settings within your Windows power plan.

If you still do not have any idle C state activity being reported, check your BIOS. Enable the C states in the BIOS if you have this option available.

I remember now that some manufacturers were deliberately disabling all of the C states. This is a really dumb thing to be doing to a laptop. Disabling the C states also disables the maximum turbo multipliers so you end up with both a hotter CPU and a slower running CPU when lightly loaded. Dumb and dumb.
Thank you. I’ll look into this

Bingo. That is your problem. Intel CPUs run much hotter when all of the low power C states are disabled.

This can be dependent on the power plan settings. You can try different power plans and watch the C States window to see if the C states start working.

If you open up the entire C States window, on the right hand side is a feature that can try to fix these C state issues.

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Check the C States - AC box, select the Off radio button and press Apply. Do the same thing again but this time after you check the C States - AC box, select the On radio button and press Apply again. This resets some of the C state related settings within your Windows power plan.

If you still do not have any idle C state activity being reported, check your BIOS. Enable the C states in the BIOS if you have this option available.

I remember now that some manufacturers were deliberately disabling all of the C states. This is a really dumb thing to be doing to a laptop. Disabling the C states also disables the maximum turbo multipliers so you end up with both a hotter CPU and a slower running CPU when lightly loaded. Dumb and dumb.
Alright on idle, it’s running at 8-10 watts. With the high performance plan. The power saver was on 4 watts

It’s better now. Has some spikes though when gaming but I use the high performance plan. It takes a while before it throttles. When It VR throttles, both pl1 and 2 flash red I think. But it returns to normal a few seconds after.
 

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Now when I play games, it will throttle. It will reach 50-60 watts out of nowhere and return back later to normal. Ive been playing valorant and this happens a lot. I have a fps cap to 240

Reinstalled windows and now it’s 3 watts on idle. At first c-states was on c7 I think but now it’s 0
But this is it on the balanced power plan with nothing
 

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just apply your old undervolt if you remember the values. i would not play with the power limits. Play your game while throttle stop is running open in background. If throttling happens, open throttle stop and it"ll show you why it throttled. Use g-helper for fan curves if needed and to get rid of all asus services and to get drivers and decrease battery charge limit. Hope that does a bit. If no throttling is appearing, you might change powerplan in windows and g-helper to turbo and see if still no throttling. Sometimes it might help to decrease cpu powerlimit to have more heatroom for gpu as there are connencted usually through a heatsink
 

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just apply your old undervolt if you remember the values. i would not play with the power limits. Play your game while throttle stop is running open in background. If throttling happens, open throttle stop and it"ll show you why it throttled. Use g-helper for fan curves if needed and to get rid of all asus services and to get drivers and decrease battery charge limit. Hope that does a bit. If no throttling is appearing, you might change powerplan in windows and g-helper to turbo and see if still no throttling. Sometimes it might help to decrease cpu powerlimit to have more heatroom for gpu as there are connencted usually through a heatsink
I’ll look into that. Right now I have it at a -45 mv undervolt I think. I use the bitsum highest performance power plan. And g helper on turbo when gaming.

Also, package power spikes up to 40+ the moment I log on to windows. (On the balanced power plan) it happens for a couple of seconds then drops to 4 watts there about. I don’t know if it’s normal and something to worry about. And also it looks like c states are on 0 again.
Ran the powercfg energy command and this was what I got.
 

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I am also using a 10750H processor. I experienced this problem too. Even though I changed my values on Throttlestop, the startup was slow and my ram and bus values were low. The solution was actually very simple. I uninstalled any programs that could make changes to the processor. Then, I obtained an updated bios file from the computer service and updated the bios. Then my problem was solved. Actually, this problem is caused by the regulators on the motherboard. I hope it will be useful to the reader.
 
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