XPG Lancer RGB DDR5-7200 CL34 2x 16 GB

[ir_cow]

XPG launches a new wave of Lancer RGB memory kits. Using a stylish, modern design, XPG is blurring the lines between performance and enthusiast-grade memory. Follow along as we benchmark, compare and overclock to find out if this 7200 MT/s kit holds any advantages over the competition!

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[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

Cheap storage and plentiful variations of memory. Truly this is the golden age!!!

 

[Mussels]

RAM companies are in a tough spot where they need to release faster and faster products, but CPU's either can't benefit from it, don't work with it, or run slower with it.
And by the time CPU's can readily run it, they've released something newer anyway.

I'm seeing about 5 help threads a day on facebook PC building groups on AM5 systems with DDR5 6000, because it wont post on their motherboards once they enable XMP - and a few intel systems (especially 12th gen users) with higher speeds, especially with four sticks.

Feels like latency should be the focus for gamers, otherwise just get whatever's cheap in your particular CPU's happy range.

It's a weird time with RAM, we've normally spent years and years trying to get RAM to max out platforms and it feels like DDR5 blasted way ahead of how fast it can even be used this time around.

 

[jaszy]

I know things aren't going to be linear due to silicon quality, but whats the auto SA/VDD2/TX on the Z790 tomahawk with your 13900k or alt cpu?

Just curious.

Edit: Just re-read you have DDR4 version.. I guess daisy chain boards? Apex runs lower auto voltages due to 1dpc..

 

[ir_cow]

I know things aren't going to be linear due to silicon quality, but whats the auto SA/VDD2/TX on the Z790 tomahawk with your 13900k or alt cpu?

Don't remember honestly. It's whatever was set automatically. Same CPU

Edit: Just re-read you have DDR4 version.. I guess daisy chain boards? Apex runs lower auto voltages due to 1dpc..

Yep. Tomahawk used for the DDR4 benchmarks because its one of the few choices that isn't completely crap. MSI Z790 ACE used up until 7200 stuff came along, with a GB Z690 Tachyon for 7200, plus overclocking beyond. Now I just happened to acquire a Z790 Apex and use it for all DDR5. Soon everything will be retested with a RTX 4090. Takes a long time to test 30+ kits again

You would think lower voltages due to 1dpc. Not the case for me. Just can go higher with the same amount compared to 4-slot.

 

[jaszy]

Don't remember honestly. It's whatever was set automatically. Same CPU


Yep. Tomahawk used for the DDR4 benchmarks because its one of the few choices that isn't completely crap. MSI Z790 ACE used up until 7200 stuff came along, with a GB Z690 Tachyon for 7200, plus overclocking beyond. Now I just happened to acquire a Z790 Apex and use it for all DDR5. Soon everything will be retested with a RTX 4090. Takes a long time to test 30+ kits again

You would think lower voltages due to 1dpc. Not the case for me. Just can go higher with the same amount compared to 4-slot.

I guess I'm just curious what the average auto voltages are for different boards/brands.. Be it 6 layer vs 8 layer or daisy chain vs something super high end like APEX.

I assumed Z790 APEX was better since most people can run sub 1.3v TX/VDD2 for high clocks (7800+) with manual tune, but the auto seems to push similar voltage to lower end boards if I didn't misunderstand?

A 6 layer Tomahawk would obviously be much different for overall stability.

Would be cool if you could run a base line "6400 MT/S" clock and compare boards (both z690/z790) with the same CPU. Would give an idea of what manufacturers put the most effort into certain products. (And how stable the AUTO configs actually are without needed multiple retrains..)

I noticed ASUS for example doesn't shield memory traces on a $600+ MSRP Z690/Z790 HERO, but previous X570 and Z590 HERO were.. Only APEX and Extreme are shielded for this generation of CPUs.

Low end Competitor boards (6 layer) are shielded, but only MSI has seemed to figure out how to make a 6 layer board perform like a 8 layer one.

Then theres anomalies like this Z690 ELITE AX on revision 1.4 being capable of 7600 MT/S rated memory, but the previous 1.X version list 6000 lol...Makes me question where the bottleneck actually is since alot of 13th gen CPU's struggle on certain Z690 hardware.

 

[chrcoluk]

RAM companies are in a tough spot where they need to release faster and faster products, but CPU's either can't benefit from it, don't work with it, or run slower with it.
And by the time CPU's can readily run it, they've released something newer anyway.

I'm seeing about 5 help threads a day on facebook PC building groups on AM5 systems with DDR5 6000, because it wont post on their motherboards once they enable XMP - and a few intel systems (especially 12th gen users) with higher speeds, especially with four sticks.

Feels like latency should be the focus for gamers, otherwise just get whatever's cheap in your particular CPU's happy range.

It's a weird time with RAM, we've normally spent years and years trying to get RAM to max out platforms and it feels like DDR5 blasted way ahead of how fast it can even be used this time around.

Yeah, they doing it as we can see what happened with B-die on DDR4, the market has shown users will pay a premium for pre OC memory and also a premium if there is a standout IC ahead of the pack.

DDR4 also had issues but currently this seems a little more extreme. It will improve over time, but likely requiring a newer gen CPU with better IMC for the best improvement and possibly also newer boards with better traces.

Glad ir_cow kept DDR4 data in the graphs, my DDR4 on same CPU architecture getting similar latency to the best in the graph. But the DDR5 tech is making good progress there, not too far away on latency now whilst nice bandwidth.

 

[Mussels]

I guess I'm just curious what the average auto voltages are for different boards/brands

Should by some miracle i end up reviewing any motherboards, i'm 100% interested in that exact same thing.

On ryzen it's been the difference between boards being trash with RAM support, being good with RAM support or just exploding CPUs - and I feel the intel side is going to have a very similar behavior.

 

[dj-electric]

Here to report this kit (minus the anime girl on the actual dimms edition) boots flawlessly on a Z690 Hero with 13900K with the latest BIOS. pretty much identical performance to how it does with the Z790 Hero.