PowerColor AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT Pictured, Confirmed Based on "Navi 32"

[AnotherReader]

$479 I suspect.

Looks like it's going to perform worse than a 6800XT IMO. It's only clocked 9% faster than the 6800XT, but the 6800XT has 20% more shaders AND twice the InfinityCache. Given the lack of cache on the 7800XT I doubt the change to 18Gbps GDDR6 will be anything other than a downgrade, too. We've seen from the RX7600 that in terms of architecture, the move to RDNA3 yields very little IPC. Realistically, all RDNA3 means for performance is that you get an improved media engine with a hardware AV1 encoder...

Most likely it sits between the 6800 and 6800XT in terms of performance, and any efficiency advantage gained from using TSMC5 is wasted on higher clocks and the higher idle power draw of running five seperate dies and an interconnecting substrate.

It's going to be competing with the 4070, but it won't be as fast as the 4070, it won't have the raytracing performance of the 4070, it won't have the efficiency of the 4070, and it won't have CUDA application support of the 4070. The only reason it'll look good at all is because the 4060 Ti 16GB is a disgrace at $500.

It has four MCDs. Assuming the same clocks as the 7900 XTX, this could come in at 230 W which is essentially the same as the RX 6800. That might be its only saving grace if it fails to beat the 6800 XT.

 

[Dahita]

All these overpriced, under performing videos card compared to prior gen... for what? With a 2070 SUPER along with an AMD 5950x, in good old 1080p resolution, everything plays over 100 FPS Ultra everything, including RT where available. Metro Exodus, Red Dead Redemption 2, Dying Light 2, Diablo IV, Divinity Original sin 3 Baldur 3, you name it.

None of the video cards today make sense to me.

Nvidia:
4900? $1600, please.
4080? 16Gb of RAM, less RAM than previous top of the line 3090 yet more expensive, already close to being maxed out on certain games in 4K
4070 Ti? 12Gb of RAM, already obsolete
4060 Ti? much slower yet 16 Gb of Ram (?!), do I even need to go there
Everything below doesn't make sense if you plan on keeping up good perf for a while

AMD:
Whatever version, real bad at RT, FSR 2 not on par, power consumption on idle.

Can we please move on to the next gen? Something 40% faster than previous gen for $500/$600 bucks, without over-heating or going 100 watts on idle, with a proper amount of VRAM for futureproofing, old school style? Much appreciated!

PS: and if the letter X could be banned from future names too... The XFX RTX 7900 XTX was the last straw.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

All these overpriced, under performing videos card compared to prior gen... for what? With a 2070 SUPER along with an AMD 5950x, in good old 1080p resolution, everything plays over 100 FPS Ultra everything, including RT where available. Metro Exodus, Red Dead Redemption 2, Dying Light 2, Diablo IV, Divinity Original sin 3 Baldur 3, you name it.

None of the video cards today make sense to me.

Nvidia:
4900? $1600, please.
4080? 16Gb of RAM, less RAM than previous top of the line 3090 yet more expensive, already close to being maxed out on certain games in 4K
4070 Ti? 12Gb of RAM, already obsolete
4060 Ti? much slower yet 16 Gb of Ram (?!), do I even need to go there
Everything below doesn't make sense if you plan on keeping up good perf for a while

AMD:
Whatever version, real bad at RT, FSR 2 not on par, power consumption on idle.

Can we please move on to the next gen? Something 40% faster than previous gen for $500/$600 bucks, without over-heating or going 100 watts on idle, with a proper amount of VRAM for futureproofing, old school style? Much appreciated!

PS: and if the letter X could be banned from future names too... The XFX RTX 7900 XTX was the last straw.

It kinda sounds like you made the case that you don’t need to upgrade at all.

 

[Dahita]

It kinda sounds like you made the case that you don’t need to upgrade at all.

wouldn't mind upgrading from 1080p to 4K

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

I wonder if I took a wrong turn writing off RDNA2 as old hardware in favour of 7900XT and not seriously considering a 6950XT. Somehow it seems like it's still a safe bet almost at the 3 year mark. Between then and now there were some seriously juicy sales on 6950XT. 7900XT and 4070 Ti have just been consistently embarrassing in $CAD in that time.

Reckon we'll see $499.......6 months after we should have.

I don't think so. I bought my 6900XT (it's kind of a 6925XT - it's the higher binned GPU of the 6950XT with the memory of the 6900XT) fairly early in the release cycle and I honestly don't have any regrets about doing so even though I paid a ridiculous amount of money for it. It's still a viable card, but it's now approaching mid-range as far as performance goes and is missing the better RT performance and Nvidia's DLAA/DLSS/FG. Personally, I think your choice of the 4070Ti was the way to go. I don't miss Adrenalin under Windows at all.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I think if you’re trying to be fair, you’d reference the 1080p graph, as the 7600 is marketed as a 1080p card. It doesn’t help its case that much, but it does give it a 4% edge on the 6650 XT. To me, it’s appropriately named, but to your point, it doesn’t bode well that their maxed out die can’t do any better than a non-XT tier. Makes me think that AMD was hoping for much higher clocks than what they got.

In my defense I did say 2 to 4%, but with 1440p monitors being relatively affordable I think that's the target resolution people should be mostly concerned with today (1440p). There is effectively zero generational uplift, sadly.

 

[Macro Device]

but with 1440p monitors being relatively affordable

...and RX 7600 being underqualified for it the ones who consider 1440p displays will only buy RX 7600 if they don't care about settings or don't play the most demanding games. It's a non-ideal 1080p GPU which is DoA at its above $200 price.

7800 XT gives me the same vibes. It's utterly underqualified for 4K and is not ideal for 1440p144Hz. And most probably they will charge above $500 which is ridiculous. $500 for a mid-range card which is unable to RT. C'mon.

 

[N3M3515]

Yeah, I agree. I'd actually be agreeing with an $550 price point if it performs around 6800 XT level

Why would it perform at the same level of the gpu it's supposed to replace?, shouldn't it be at the very least 12% faster than the 6800 XT?

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

In my defense I did say 2 to 4%, but with 1440p monitors being relatively affordable I think that's the target resolution people should be mostly concerned with today (1440p). There is effectively zero generational uplift, sadly.

...and RX 7600 being underqualified for it the ones who consider 1440p displays will only buy RX 7600 if they don't care about settings or don't play the most demanding games. It's a non-ideal 1080p GPU which is DoA at its above $200 price.

7800 XT gives me the same vibes. It's utterly underqualified for 4K and is not ideal for 1440p144Hz. And most probably they will charge above $500 which is ridiculous. $500 for a mid-range card which is unable to RT. C'mon.

And you can get a 6650 XT for as low as $249 right now.

I do wonder if we’re in a spot where games are outpacing hardware. For example, the RX 560 was promoted as a 1080p gamer, so was the 5500XT, and the 6500XT. Seems we’re sliding up a tier to get “1080p gaming.” It takes an x7x0 series card to get something billed as a 1440p card.

 

[Chrispy_]

And you can get a 6650 XT for as low as $249 right now.

Used 6600 on ebay for $125

RX 6600 for sale | eBay

Get the best deals for RX 6600 at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!

www.ebay.com

If budget is an issue you can afford to buy a used GPU!

 

[Macro Device]

And you can get a 6650 XT for as high as $249 right now.

Fixed.

the RX 560 was promoted as a 1080p gamer

And it handled close to no titles at this resolution. Like, yeah, you could "crank" the lowest settings in hope to get comfortable framerates...

5500XT

It came 3 years too late. This niche was already taken by RX 480 back in 2016. 5500 XT, even if was marketed as a 1080p GPU, has never been one.

6500XT

This was a rip-off power three or maybe even four. The worst insult to gamers AMD had come up with. 4 GB narrow b/w VRAM is the lowest tier and it must be promoted as a placeholder. This GPU had and still has nothing to do with gaming.

Seems we’re sliding up a tier to get “1080p gaming.”

Only compared to the 2020's RX 6000/RTX 3000 generation. Games became heavier, GPUs stay on the same perf/$ level.

What was enough for ultimate 1080p:

2014: GTX 980 (probably 970, too) and R9 290X.
2015: GTX 980 and R9 390X.
2016: GTX 1070 and nada.
2017: GTX 1070 and nada.
2018: RTX 2070 and... Vega 64 lol.
2019: RTX 2070 Super and RX 5700 XT.
2020: RTX 3060 and RX 6600 XT.
2021: RTX 3060 and RX 6650 XT.
2022/23: RTX 4060 Ti (with asterisk) and RX 7700 series (yet to come).

As you can see, this generation is the first of such kind.

 

[RedelZaVedno]

It's basically 6800XT. It will all come down to pricing. It can be awesone if it's priced 450$ or less, meh if it's 500$ and what a joke if it costs more than 529 bucks. I have a bad feeling it will cost 549$ or even 599$ due to offering 16 gigs of vram. If so it will rot on shelves.

 

[rv8000]

Pricing it under $500 is going to give AMD very little room for 7600XT, 7700, 7700XT and the 7800.

Sadly much like ADA this will slot in at the same price/performance level as the previous gen with new features and some small improvements across the board.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

Used 6600 on ebay for $125

RX 6600 for sale | eBay

Get the best deals for RX 6600 at eBay.com. We have a great online selection at the lowest prices with Fast & Free shipping on many items!

www.ebay.com

If budget is an issue you can afford to buy a used GPU!

Oh, I typically go used on most hardware purchases. Running a used RX 480 currently. Theoretically I could buy just about anything I wanted, but I still aim for value, and used GPUs in the 100-200 range are quite good. I was just mainly referencing new pricing of last gen, which should influence prices on current gen.

 

[Space Lynx]

How did you get a 7900 XT for $580?

Prime Day sales last month had an offer for my xfx mercy 7900 xt at 705 dollars, tax is negated through prime day only 6% cashback option, I was going to buy starfield anyway, so that brings it down to 110 if we included starfield premium (costs $99 on Steam not including tax) plus the tax on that, so 595, and I had a 30 gift card which brings it down to 565 including all tax, so I guess I was wrong. 580 was cause I suck at math.

 

[Broken Processor]

This had better be priced a decent amount less than the 6800xt on release because if it releases around the same price with roughly the same performance 3 years later AMD are going to look very bad and the product will get slaughtered in reviews and rightly so.

 

[ARF]

This had better be priced a decent amount less than the 6800xt on release because if it releases around the same price with roughly the same performance 3 years later AMD are going to look very bad and the product will get slaughtered in reviews and rightly so.

100%.
There is no reason to ask too much for so small GPU.

AMD Navi 32 GPU Specs

3840 Cores, 192 TMUs, 128 ROPs

www.techpowerup.com

Must be no higher than 399$.


This is in fact the Radeon RX 6700 XT 12GB replacement and successor.

But because that was launched at the peak of the mining craze, you should now see a decent launch price reduction back to more normal levels.

AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT Specs

AMD Navi 22, 2581 MHz, 2560 Cores, 160 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 12288 MB GDDR6, 2000 MHz, 192 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Macro Device]

you should now see a decent launch price reduction back to more normal levels

Should but in fact, they asked $650ish for RX 6800 XT, whereas its successor, 7900 XT, has $900 in its MSRP. It won't be a surprise if they charge $600 for this piece.

AMD today is even farther from realistic pricing than the nVidia is.

 

[ARF]

Should but in fact, they asked $650ish for RX 6800 XT, whereas its successor, 7900 XT, has $900 in its MSRP.

Maybe they think that the RX 7900 XT 20GB for 900$ is the RX 6900 XT 16GB 1000$ successor.
While the RX 7900 XTX 24GB is in a league of its own.

7800 XT gives me the same vibes. It's utterly underqualified for 4K and is not ideal for 1440p144Hz.

If it is around the RX 6800 XT 16GB performance, then it is a 4K card.

 

[Macro Device]

If it is around the RX 6800 XT 16GB performance, then it is a 4K card.

It would be a 4K card be it released 3 years ago. Game sys reqs went harder on hardware. 6800 XT is no more ideal for 4K. It's a 1440p GPU.

 

[ARF]

It would be a 4K card be it released 3 years ago. Game sys reqs went harder on hardware. 6800 XT is no more ideal for 4K. It's a 1440p GPU.

You mean that now there are one or two more demanding games released after 2021 which would need some settings adjustments in order to run 4K with the card?

 

[Athlonite]

Some day Radeon team will figure it out. The 7900 GRE at $650 is the real 7800 XT. This is more like the 7700 XT.
N32 looks to be around 6800 XT on paper. So it must be priced lower than the going 6800 XT price which has been under $500 but is now about $530.

More like it's a 6800 non X 3840 CU's is the same as the RX6800 so basically this is probably still going to suck donkey balls when trying to use RT in any game

 

[Chrispy_]

It has four MCDs. Assuming the same clocks as the 7900 XTX, this could come in at 230 W which is essentially the same as the RX 6800. That might be its only saving grace if it fails to beat the 6800

Yeah, I'm not sure MCDs use a lot of power TBH. The 7900GRE is most likely lower power because it's clocked so slow relative to the 7900XT.

I hope I'm wrong, I'm expecting just shy of 6800XT performance, and my own 6800XT is undervolted and downclocked to 2133MHz to run at 200W (reported for core only) so closer to 235W actual. That level of performance would be fine if it was priced at the $450+ and came with a 230W stock TDP before tuning. I'd like to think that such a TDP could be tuned down to 170W or so...

 

[Athlonite]

Yeah, I'm not sure MCDs use a lot of power TBH. The 7900GRE is most likely lower power because it's clocked so slow relative to the 7900XT.

I hope I'm wrong, I'm expecting just shy of 6800XT performance, and my own 6800XT is undervolted and downclocked to 2133MHz to run at 200W (reported for core only) so closer to 235W actual. That level of performance would be fine if it was priced at the $450+ and came with a 230W stock TDP before tuning. I'd like to think that such a TDP could be tuned down to 170W or so...

The RX7900GRE (Get Rekt Edition) should have been named the RX7800XT (for some dumb reason AMD are doing an nVidia 4080/4070Ti naming job) and this RX7800XT should have been named the RX7800 (non X) as for power usage well we'll just have to wait and see what reviews show I'd be happy with 200~265W if the perf was there

 

[dalekdukesboy]

All I care about is….will there be a 7950xtx and will it compete with 4090+ Nvidia?