RTX 3080ti AMP Holo Power limit

[depakjan]

Hi all,

I recently grabbed a RMAed RTX 3080ti AMP Holo and noticed severe power throttling at 4k, it can hardly maintain 1710mhz, I had no clue about the 2 pin cards being severely power limited, its crazy that my card can only average around 330W not even hitting the 350W and power slider does nothing.

I was wondering if zotac eventually released any better bios ? , I have searched everywhere I cant find any better zotac bios and there are posts about flashing AMP Holo extreme bios but apparently it only increases the power consumption but the clocks are so low as its a 3 pin card, its worse than the original bios, so its not worth it.

I was wondering if there was any other Manufacturer BIOS that works , if anyone has tried with success?

Based on my analysis , possible contenders

EVGA RTX 3080 TI XC3 ULTRA (Port also matches)

GIGABYTE RTX 3080 Ti GAMING OC (Port mismatch)

GIGABYTE RTX 3080 Ti VISION OC (Port mismatch)

ASUS TUF RTX 3080 Ti GAMING OC (Port mismatch)

Please let me know if anyone found any better ways.

PS : attached image showing my throttling

 

[Deleted member 185088]

I will try to see how my 3080ti behaves at 4k and let you know, it's an MSI 3 thing, and also has only 2 pin power.

 

[raddeon]

You're cooler seems maxed out as well, so don't think a higher power level bios would do much if you don't watercool it first.

 

[depakjan]

I will try to see how my 3080ti behaves at 4k and let you know, it's an MSI 3 thing, and also has only 2 pin power.

Thanks, do let me know

You're cooler seems maxed out as well, so don't think a higher power level bios would do much if you don't watercool it first.

Yes i am almost hitting the temp limit but I can manage to add more fans or open the case to minimize it, but before I do something for temps i want to see if anything can be done for the power throttle, Zotac asks me to send the unit for RMA, I doubt this will be fixed with RMA.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Seems mine hits 341w during gameplay with 350w as max. Frequency low 1700

 

[depakjan]

Ah its almost the same, only mine never has hit 350 ever, 341 is the max and averages 330W, but yea the freq seems matching but I saw a lot of threads with MSI having similar issues, from what I have read Asus or EVGA seems better, haven't seen anything about gigabyte but gigabyte is the one with higher power limit in the 2 pin cards.

 

[GerKNG]

pretty normal.
clean, repaste and get new pads.

 

[freeagent]

A little O.T..

I noticed my ZOTAC 4070 Ti has a 400w limit, but can only do like 340w. I only mention it because it is the “new” 3080ish type card

 

[depakjan]

pretty normal.
clean, repaste and get new pads.

Dont think it has got anything to do with repasting, this is Power throttle, mostly likely bios hard coded to 90% TDP

A little O.T..

I noticed my ZOTAC 4070 Ti has a 400w limit, but can only do like 340w. I only mention it because it is the “new” 3080ish type card

Ah wow, are they still doing these things, seriously what's the point of putting 400W in specification if they are going to gimp the card purposely

 

[GerKNG]

Dont think it has got anything to do with repasting, this is Power throttle, mostly likely bios hard coded to 90% TDP

Ah wow, are they still doing these things, seriously what's the point of putting 400W in specification if they are going to gimp the card purposely

i don't talk about the powerlimit. i talk about the atrocious temps (if you don't have 40°C ambient at the moment)
i own a 3080 Ti as well and it was locked to exactly 91% of the Powerlimit (Gaming OC from Gigabyte) the powerlimit slider did nothing as well.
seems to be a 3080 Ti thing. (and i flashed mine with a handful of bioses and it never changed)

 

[depakjan]

i don't talk about the powerlimit. i talk about the atrocious temps (if you don't have 40°C ambient at the moment)
i own a 3080 Ti as well and it was locked to exactly 91% of the Powerlimit (Gaming OC from Gigabyte) the powerlimit slider did nothing as well.
seems to be a 3080 Ti thing. (and i flashed mine with a handful of bioses and it never changed)

Yea my ambient is around 32, i agree about the temps , mostly will try RMA for the temps but with undervolting I can live with it, powerlimit is very concerning.

if you have already tried flashing different bios and its still not working, its bad, thanks for letting me know !!

 

[Lew Zealand]

GPU Chip Power Draw: 150W

Board Power Draw: 316W

That CANNOT be the way it's supposed to work is it? I don't have any Ampere GPUs but my Turing and Pascal GPUs have the GPU Chip Power drawing about 2/3 or more of the total board power budget, not less than half. The low GPU Chip power makes sense on it's own as you're running at a low 0.862V but you should absolutely NOT have a 79°C card with such low voltages and GPU Chip power draw.

Something's wrong here but I don't know enough to suggest what the causative agent is. RMA sounds like a good strategy.

 

[GerKNG]

PWR SRC is often equal to the chip power draw.

 

[depakjan]

Its strange, how the reviewer was able to get around 350w in his testing with the same card, could it be the motherboard limiting something ? , its very strange
in the Power limits sections , reviewer is talking as if the slider is working, is it possible they sent without limits on the review model or the one i am having is really having some issues

Zotac GeForce RTX 3080 Ti AMP HoloBlack Review

The Zotac GeForce RTX 3080 Ti AMP HoloBlack has the most mesmerizing RGB lighting effects. It also comes with a factory overclock to 1710 MHz and idle fan stop. What sets this card apart from other custom designs is that its energy efficiency is actually better than the NVIDIA reference design.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[b1k3rdude]

I recently grabbed a RMAed RTX 3080ti AMP Holo and noticed severe power throttling at 4k, it can hardly maintain 1710mhz, I had no clue about the 2 pin cards being severely power limited, its crazy that my card can only average around 330W not even hitting the 350W and power slider does nothing.

The GPU temps looks normal, however the RAM while prolly in-spec, is a bit toasty. Ive neve rbeen a fan of Zotac card as thier cooling solutions were always sub-par imho. If your not happy and are able to, send it back for a full refund.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Some hope:
Bios unlocked

 

[depakjan]

Ah, looks good, hope something comes out for us, does it mean we can read the BIOS and see if its really hard capped power limit wise, is there any bios file reader or something?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What I am seeing on my EVGA RTX 3080ti FTW 3 Ultra after about 30m steady state. Only thing I changed was running with max power limits all other settings stock out of the box in the OC profile. I normally run the card at around 340w so the temps sorta surprised me not bad for over 400w I guess....

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Ah, looks good, hope something comes out for us, does it mean we can read the BIOS and see if its really hard capped power limit wise, is there any bios file reader or something?

My understanding is that we can flash higher wattage bios. Maybe this weekend I'll try flashing a better bios.

 

[cvaldes]

There's something wrong with your card.

I have a TUF Gaming 3080 Ti (2x 8-pin power) and it easily reaches 355W during benchmark runs, with momentary peaks up to 359W. This is with the factory OC, no other settings changed. Actual real-world gaming loads are probably 5W lower (depending on the title of course). This one has a full-length waterblock on it but I remember getting similar results with the factory air cooler before I modded it for liquid cooling.

There's also a TUF Gaming 3080 (also 2x 8-pin power) in the house. This one peaks at 352W with the original factory air cooler. Again, this is with the manufacturer OC, no other settings changed.

I benchmark infrequently, just to optimize fan curves since I know actual gaming loads are less. I typically do this on the hottest days of the year because I know the other 360 days the system will run quieter. This year, I probably won't bother with tweaking the fan curves; there are multiple systems in the house and their fan curves were optimized last year.

One important thing is that different benchmark software (like games) provide different loads on the graphics card. I generally rely on Unigine Heaven and Unigine Superposition to set fan curves since they seem to max the card temperature yet also are more gamelike with their varied scenes. I don't use Furmark or Kombustor for fan curve optimization for this reason.

Anyhow I'd RMA the card if I were in your shoes. It is unlikely you are getting average performance for that GPU using 20W less.

Best of luck.

 

[Chomiq]

FE here, no problems pulling 350W at stock with 99% load.

 

[crlogic]

FE here, no problems pulling 350W at stock with 99% load.

Same, and with a powerlimit increase and under-volt it'll sit happy at 1950MHz at 900mV with 400W power draw

 

[depakjan]

Same, and with a powerlimit increase and under-volt it'll sit happy at 1950MHz at 900mV with 400W power draw

Yes, this is exactly my problem, I cant for the life of me get anywhere near 1800, let alone 1900!! , it power throttles so much, I think its to do with the ZOTAC bios in itself, that's why I thought of flashing Asus bios but people say it doesn't work. I don't want to take the risk as I don't have integrated graphics or another graphics card to rollback vbios if something goes wrong

Also techpowerup review of this same exact card could pull 350w, I am so confused, I am going to try RMA , hope I don't get the same problem again!

@GerKNG or @Xex360 , have you tried ASUS TUF BIOS ? , maybe one of the DP wont work with this vbios though.

 

[crlogic]

Yes, this is exactly my problem, I cant for the life of me get anywhere near 1800, let alone 1900!! , it power throttles so much, I think its to do with the ZOTAC bios in itself, that's why I thought of flashing Asus bios but people say it doesn't work. I don't want to take the risk as I don't have integrated graphics or another graphics card to rollback vbios if something goes wrong

Also techpowerup review of this same exact card could pull 350w, I am so confused, I am going to try RMA , hope I don't get the same problem again!

@GerKNG or @Xex360 , have you tried ASUS TUF BIOS ? , maybe one of the DP wont work with this vbios though.

You could try an under-volt to keep it off the power limit. 1830MHz at 850mV is a good target to try and that would keep you below 350W. But yeah something more seems wrong if that model performs as expected for reviews but not yours, RMA sounds like a good idea before flashing anything

 

[cvaldes]

The card is defective.

Consumers shouldn't have to jump through hoops (undervolting, overclocking, repasting, whatever) just to get expected average results. Those average results are with off-the-shelf units, pulled out of the box and plugged into the motherboard.

About a month ago I bought a B stock graphics card from EVGA. It crashed three times in an hour. So I did a clean uninstall and reinstall of the device driver software. Three more crashes in the next hour. So I RMA-ed it.

I didn't try to undervolt it, didn't tweak the clock settings, didn't hack the registry, didn't sacrifice a chicken, didn't do anything. I just waited for the RMA approval to show up in my e-mail inbox then shoved it in a box with the necessary documentation and walked to the UPS Store to drop it off.

I received a replacement card (again B stock) from EVGA about 10 days later. Works fine with zero effort on my behalf. I didn't even reinstall the drivers. Plug and go.