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ASUS Unveils 32-inch 4K OLED ROG Swift PG32UCDM Gaming Monitor

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no bfi, gotta love that single-pixel blur. how else they gonna keep selling new models every year
 
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Yeah display manufacturers (or is it scaler/IC makers?) are using DSC as a crutch
LG and Samsung have in-house display IC solutions, so they are the ones who usually bring new technologies first. LG introduced full speed HDMI 2.1 ports at 48 Gbps in 2019 already and Samsung will be the first to introduce DP 2.1 Neo G9 dual-4K monitor. Others usually source display IC and there are solutions available.
 
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Nice spec
But we all know what's going to happen to top ROG monitors

ETA: Q2 2024
When it actually available in actual store: Q2 2025
 
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Rome wasn't built in a day.
Hahaha. We don't want monitors to be build like Rome...
There were no OLED monitors in the 2000s. And no 4K@120Hz models in the mid 2010s. Today we have 4K@240Hz. There is progress happening. Next year someone is going to bitch that there's no 4K@480Hz monitor. Someday there will be someone saying that missing DisplayPort 7.0 support is an outrage because 7.0 cables are already on the market.
Progress is there, granted, but if you offer allegedly premium product, there are floor expectations from such product. Asus cannot cheapen out on DP 2.1 ports on a monitor that can take a full advantage of new VESA's standard. It's terrible what they did here - two steps forward and one step back. Full image on this monitor needs almost 70 Gbps of data. Why on Earth not offer DP 2.1 port to consumers? Beggars belief...
Great. WE KNOW. In the mean time, please take a seat and quietly drink your juice.
If we keep quiet, we get five generations of CPUs with 4 cores...
Some people will be disappointed with everything. Hell of a way to go through life.
Not me. I am fully satisfied with many products, for example legendary LG's 4K/120 OLED TV Series 9 from 2019. Fantastic generation that got almost everything enabled what was possible at that time and kept receiving firmware updates for several years.
The Internet wasn't always like this. I've been on the World Wide Web basically since its inception in the early Nineties. The smartphone has turned the Internet into an online ghetto. It gave everyone a voice but it didn't make the 'net any better. It just created more noise.
Not true entirely. You need to plough through and filter out noise and tap into the biggest democratization of knowledge in history of humankind.
 
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There is no single monitor with DP 2.1 ports in the market as yet. Samsung's Odyssey Neo G9 dual-4K will be the first one, in a few weeks.

There is already at least one DP 2.1 monitor, funnily enough, from Asus no less!!!


I can't find what spec they're using, might be the basic 40gbps for all I know, but that's already a big improvement over DP1.4 - from 32gbps to 40gbps doesn't seem like a lot but due to signalling eficiency it's really from ~25.9gbps to ~38.6gbps
 
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Hahaha. We don't want monitors to be build like Rome...
No, we don't. The point is that some people think everything will happen right now. There are some on this forum. And IT DOESN'T.

Progress is there, granted, but if you offer allegedly premium product, there are floor expectations from such product. Asus cannot cheapen out on DP 2.1 ports on a monitor that can take a full advantage of new VESA's standard. It's terrible what they did here - two steps forward and one step back. Full image on this monitor needs almost 70 Gbps of data. Why on Earth not offer DP 2.1 port to consumers? Beggars belief...

If we keep quiet, we get five generations of CPUs with 4 cores...

Not me. I am fully satisfied with many products, for example legendary LG's 4K/120 OLED TV Series 9 from 2019. Fantastic generation that got almost everything enabled what was possible at that time and kept receiving firmware updates for several years.
I never said you. I just said "some people." Read it again. I am one of those people who is satisfied with many things I own. I'm also the owner of an LG C2 OLED, wonderful device.

But for certain, some people are unhappy with everything.

Not true entirely. You need to plough through and filter out noise and tap into the biggest democratization of knowledge in history of humankind.
In 2013, yes, for sure. In 2023, no way. Over-commercializations, scammers, and AI are well on their way to destroying all of that, or at least burying the good stuff so deep it's hard to find.

There is almost as much misinformation on the Internet as there is actual knowledge. Search engines don't know the difference and won't prioritize the good stuff anymore because of SEO and other monetization shenanigans.

And none of this is new. If you know how search engines work (and don't work), it's not difficult to trick them. Remember all of the "weapons of mass destruction" antics? Early episode of that.

Anyhow the point is that this monitor addresses a certain segment of the consumer buying audience. It's not meant to be the end-all device. Like I said, Asus undoubtedly has other prototypes in their labs and they specifically selected this BOM to become a shipping product.

And didn't the Lovelace generation (RTX 40-series) stay at DisplayPort 1.4 anyhow? GeForce RTX is the dominant discrete GPU for the DIY PC gamer community. As far as I understand, if you plug a DisplayPort 1.4 video card into a DisplayPort 2.x monitor, you still only get DisplayPort 1.4 features. Or am I wrong?

Asus -- as an AIB partner of both Nvidia and AMD -- may not be motivated to make their GeForce offerings look sucky on this monitor. They may be waiting on the RTX 50-series for a wide rollout of DisplayPort 2.x.

If you don't like it (and that's fine), go ahead and start your own consumer computing hardware company. It's easy for people like you I'm sure. And you will only make the right decisions for everyone all the time.

Complaining is fine too. Go bitch about it on social media: FB, X, Insta, whatever.

But the senior execs aren't reading TPU. They would be insane to make product line decisions based on what people say here. It gets nuttier and nuttier with each passing week. Toss in this mile-high stack of features, price it at $99 with a 20-year warranty and make it draw 0.01W. And screw your shareholders, we don't give a rat's arse about gross margins. Yes, that's the ticket, sell everything at COGS.
 
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There is already at least one DP 2.1 monitor, funnily enough, from Asus no less!!!
Oh, I was not aware that it's already available on the market. Thanks.
Well, there we have it. Asus does have DP 2.1 display IC with two wide bandwidth DP 2.1 ports, so it's even more weird why they decided not to install this or similar display IC chip into the monitor from the article.
 
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This has to come with DP 2.1 3840x2160= 8.3 million pixels x 10bitcolorx3colours=30=248x240hz=60gb bandwidth is needed and dp 2.1 can give that. I'm interested in the text clarity that this qd-oled 2nd gen will give. Price wise coming from Asus will be expensive, the good thing is that many companies will also release this same 4k 240hz 32inch next year too, the hope is at least one of them will include dp 2.1 and make it true glossy.
 
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Anyhow the point is that this monitor addresses a certain segment of the consumer buying audience. It's not meant to be the end-all device. Like I said, Asus undoubtedly has other prototypes in their labs and they specifically selected this BOM to become a shipping product.
As pointed out by trsttte, Asus has already released 4K/160Hz Swift with DP 2.1 ports, so it's confusing why more advanced 4K/240Hz would not have more advanced ports. I am curious to understand the logic, which I cannot see at the moment?
And didn't the Lovelace generation (RTX 40-series) stay at DisplayPort 1.4 anyhow? GeForce RTX is the dominant discrete GPU for the DIY PC gamer community. As far as I understand, if you plug a DisplayPort 1.4 video card into a DisplayPort 2.x monitor, you still only get DisplayPort 1.4 features. Or am I wrong?
You are not wrong, of course, but premium monitors are devices kept longer than GPUs. It's an investment for 5-7 years.
Asus -- as an AIB partner of both Nvidia and AMD -- may not be motivated to make their GeForce offerings look sucky on this monitor. They may be waiting on the RTX 50-series for a wide rollout of DisplayPort 2.x.
Possibly, but why punish early adopters of this monitor who will buy RTX 50-series anyway?
If you don't like it (and that's fine), go ahead and start your own consumer computing hardware company. It's easy for people like you I'm sure. And you will only make the right decisions for everyone all the time.
I don't need to. It's enough to wait until a proper DP 2.1 monitor for my needs come out. I am waiting for 5K/2K ultra-wide edition. It seems that ultra-wides are stuck forever on 1440p..., which is depressing. I have had one since 2018.
Complaining is fine too. Go bitch about it on social media: FB, X, Insta, whatever.
I do not have and do not use any of the above applications/social media. It makes the quality of my life well-balanced. Increasing number of my friends are also getting off those social media and telling me that I have not missed anything essential for good life.
But the senior execs aren't reading TPU. They would be insane to make product line decisions based on what people say here. It gets nuttier and nuttier with each passing week. Toss in this mile-high stack of features, price it at $99 with a 20-year warranty and make it draw 0.01W. And screw your shareholders, we don't give a rat's arse about gross margins. Yes, that's the ticket, sell everything at COGS.
There are quite a few very knowledgeable and experienced members here. At least some employers should read some comments after press releases, to get the 'vibe in the room'. Or engineers to come out in product presentations and explain design and display IC decisions, so that we know the reasoning behind it.

This has to come with DP 2.1 3840x2160= 8.3 million pixels x 10bitcolorx3colours=30=248x240hz=60gb bandwidth is needed and dp 2.1 can give that. I'm interested in the text clarity that this qd-oled 2nd gen will give. Price wise coming from Asus will be expensive, the good thing is that many companies will also release this same 4k 240hz 32inch next year too, the hope is at least one of them will include dp 2.1 and make it true glossy.
Exactly. It's even more bandwidth ~71 Gbps
Using CVT-RBv2 video timings by VESA, we get this:
3920x2429 total pixels x 240Hz = 2,285 GHz pixel clock x 10-bit x 3 (RGB) = 68.56 Gbps of unencoded bandwidth
68.56 Gbps /128 x132 encoding = 70.7 Gbps data bandwidth
Such monitor warranties installation of full DP 2.1 port and use of certified DP80 cables. There are no ifs and buts here. Missed opportunity.
 
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With that scaler it is a DOA product.

ASUS being ASUS.

32 is the right size for me. Been using that for a decade.
 
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I’m interested in this new sub pixel layout. I thought Samsung was only making one kind of panel.
They changed the shape of pixels:
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Changed but still kept the same triangular shape instead of simple stripe :shadedshu:
Sadly JOLED that manufactured regular RGB layout OLED had gone bankrupt.
 

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Because of pixel density, 32" is really needed for a good 4k desktop experience. For a 27 or 24", everything is just too small to see.

I don't know about you, but I hate to not use the Windows scaling settings.
Nothing is small, size of texts, images, everything is as ideal as you make it so.

And this is the beauty of 4K UHD, the pixel density makes everything of extremely high quality, not as crap as those 1080p screens of same size.

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I don't know about you, but I hate to not use the Windows scaling settings.
Nothing is small, size of texts, images, everything is as ideal as you make it so.

And this is the beauty of 4K UHD, the pixel density makes everything of extremely high quality, not as crap as those 1080p screens of same size.

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Windows 11 now allows for per-application DPI settings, although it's a major PITA to set it. Oh, and you need an edition beyond Pro, so that you have access to the Group Policies. IDFK if it is available through some GUI menu.

Alternatively, you can leave the scaling to your GPU.
 
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2024 can’t come soon enough. Probably a 2,000$ panel if I had to guess though.
I've seen some leaks for this panel... it's not that expensive - shockingly.

There have been some price murmurings from a large austin-based monitor supplier, of upcoming products and pricing, and the price is going to be quite good for what this is.
 
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I've seen some leaks for this panel... it's not that expensive - shockingly.

There have been some price murmurings from a large austin-based monitor supplier, of upcoming products and pricing, and the price is going to be quite good for what this is.

Still a grand? Ain't it?
 
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