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New pc old gpu intense mouse lag in every aspect

i doubt it is the graphics card.

my favourite fan controller is the aquacomputer octo or quadro, (the aquaero, i have, but it is expensive) or if you need to run 9 fans in parallel, the splitty, but your motherboard has at least one 3pin and one 4 pin. (all motherboards do, just some MB‘s have better bios fan control)
 
Hello again i tested my friend brand new gpu rtx 3060 and it's the same shit...
I forgot to mention that my monitor it was buyed resealed so... i will go tomorrow morning at his house he has same pc specs as mine only i got gtx 1070 ti and he's got rtx 3060 and same monitor but brand new not resealed like mine.
I will test my pc with his gpu on his monitor then my pc with his monitor and my gpu.
And also test his pc with my gpu and his monitor.
That's how i can tell if it's the gpu and monitor or only monitor.
I tested today everything it's brand new and it's not the gpu...
It's feeling like 60hz when i'm in cs go and i will comeback tomorrow with an update as for the fans i will sort that later first i need to find out this problem....
 
New update: turns out it was the ram sticks i went to my friend with my whole setup and tested everything and it was the ram affecting the setup and caused mouse lag stutter and etc
Funny thing is my ram sticks are new from team group and he s ram sticks are spc it doesn t matter what matters is that my ram sticks are causing this problem but... why?
I searched online and people are saying it s not the brand but the timings maybe .. can someone pls help me maybe i can do smth them and get it to work without buying new ones ☹️
 
were the sticks approved for your MB. ? (great that you found the problem) for an AMD motherboard IMO get ram that has even timings, or amd certified. (using MB Approved RAM is great except it tends not to be available , in my experience)
In my Amd 550b motherboard i have “corsair vengeance lpx ddr4 16GB ram 2x8“ (CMK16GX4M2Z4000C16) because i am using OBG of the 5700g… (btw,more than equal to a 1050ti, in 3mark, 8CU’s basically a steam deck)…
but that ram does not like my x570 motherboard.

i had a strange minor stutter problem that was fixed, due a “pci driver” that windows installed after i removed the AMD driver, then replaced the amd driver. remember that this was a clean install, so strange.


lol, now you can obsess over whether you need a 5800x3d…
 
what motherboard do have your first post states “Gigabyte B550M DS3H”… but the link you provide is for asus…



those ram sticks (TF4D416G3200HC16CDC01), on the amazon.ca site state (they amd compatible..)
but if they cause stutter it does not matter.

how about https://www.evomag.ro/componente-pc...r4-3200mhz-cl16-dual-channel-kit-3808770.html

wow, Romania prices are triple that of Canada.

(canadian prices tend to be 33-40 percent higher than US prices.)

of course newegg.ca has them

and amazon.ca.

yes it is 189 vs 254…
 
I m saying that my old mb is compatible and this one that i have now also b550-a gaming asus rog strix but i found out on internet that has compatibility issue maybe with my ryzen cpu
 
I m saying that my old mb is compatible and this one that i have now also b550-a gaming asus rog strix but i found out on internet that has compatibility issue maybe with my ryzen cpu
a bios update should fix compatibility problems. 5700x should not have compatibility problems. (IMO)i use a 5700g in an asus tuf gaming b550m-plus

 
I have the last bios 3202
 
still same stutter issues?
 
Yes that s what i said i tested my system at my friend house having this bios and the ram are the issue i need to buy another one those corsair or g skill neo z

Or his ram silicon power xpower zenith
 
ARGB 5v does have power limits to what can be drawn from each header. If you were using white like your pictures the power draw is higher than other colours and could be causing issues with your power supply, or the board itself.

If that RGB hub has no SATA power input, it's almost unsafe to use.


this are my ram sticks and they are compatible with my mb

Ok i found out here - https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b550-a-gaming-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/ ... they don't appear to be compatible wtf.
But they were with my b550m ds3h ... idk
post a zentimings screenshot - different boards deal with RAM differently
It'd help if you updated your system specs, so the information needed is in every post instead of hunting for them
 
Your lag issue is so severe a lot of these smaller issues seem barely worth testing - the problem is that it could be multiple small issues combining, or it could be something you overlooked or assumed was fine.

Because hardware revisions exist, links to the product aren't 100% complete without that information from their packaging or product themselves - big changes can happen between a 1.0 and a 1.1 device, corsair is the worst with this selling entirely different RAM under the same model name with revisions only visible once they're in your hands.

NZXT cam is not a software worth using for any sort of diagnosis, it's for controlling their hardware only. Same goes for any branded software like iCue, razer, LGhub, etc etc and all are best avoided. Some leave so much crap behind that even uninstalling them doesnt remove them entirely, only a format and clean OS install will.

ARGB controller has a 2 pin header going to the reset button on the case i assume? (It's possibly an issue if its wired to anything else)
Personally, this is my favourite way to control ARGB lighting.
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direct sata power, which is good - no amperage limits to worry about. Both fans and ARGB lighting can easily blow out connectors, some high RPM fans destroyed two ports on my corsair commander pro, that work fine on the motherboard.
I'm guessing this is the "to motherboard" option, which is perfectly fine like this
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You need to leave HWinfo running the entire time, and see the maximum values afterwards
'current' values are meaningless the second you alt tab or minimise the game since its no longer being rendered its not using any power, and the maximums aren't recorded if you open the program after it's already minimised.
Seeing the spread of minimum temps from a cold system to the maximum of a loaded system after ~30 minutes is how you can tell somethings heating up a ton - 30C at idle to 90C at load tells you a lot about that devices cooling.

Zentimings will show the RAM and it's currently active settings, while CPU-Z (on the SPD tab) can show what it should be running at.
My ram is actually DDR4 3600, but i made a custom 3800 XMP profile so it reads as that
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While this shows neither 3600 nor 3800 because i've overclocked it further than that profile, at 3866 (MCLK x2)
On zen3, all those three values *CLK should be identical. If they're not, it'll cause performance issues.
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Update the new boards BIOS to the latest, enable XMP and check in zentimings what the SoC voltage is. Default should be around 1.09v but it does vary. Your RAM is easy to run, but it's good for you to know what it's doing.

With the hardware/BIOS out of the way it's softwaret time
You got a new motherboard, so it's time for a new windows install. reusing them never goes well, long term.

In the past, where did you get your windows installer, using what install method?
Microsofts creation tool? Rufus and an ISO from ?

I use Uupdump and Rufus, so I get an ISO with all the updates already installed to save time, and rufus removes the TPM and secureboot requirements
When installing windows multiple times or to multiple machines, the preinstalled updates save a ton of download and install time.


This download link is for the exact version of windows 11 i'm on now
Select language for Windows 11, version 22H2 (22621.2070) amd64 - UUP dump

pick your language, untick the options you dont use to cut steps out of the installer
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These are the options i use, which include all updates but then cleanup and compact the file down to save space. Lets most versions fit on a 4GB USB drive, if needed.
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It downloads a small zip file, which you need to extract everything into a folder (Windows 'extract all' works fine) and run the windows.cmd file
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This will then download all the files and process them, it's fairly fast here but a PC with issues or a slower internet connection could take upto an hour - worse if you've got really bad internet i guess. Download sizes have varied over the years in the 3-5GB range, but since it prevents the updates being downloaded once the OS is up, it saves that time again later.

key options in Rufus are making sure the device is set for UEFI/GPT and not CSM/MBR
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When you first begin the process it has tickboxes unique to windows 11

Be sure about what you want with the final two, as i've known people like my brother to make the USB and then immediately get annoyed when using it on someone elses PC and having to change the account name. The first 3 are perfectly safe for everyone to use.
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You can install windows and tick 'i dont have a key' and sort that out later, if you need help there. TPU has a policy against piracy being discussed on the forum, but i'd rather help on that topic in a PM than let you get malware from infected windows ISO's off piratebay.



Once you have your clean OS, don't install any crapware.
Until you're sure the problems are sorted, only install:

Nvidia driver from TPU or Nvidias website. Geforce experience is fine, but tell it to not auto-optimise games
AMD chipset driver from TPU or AMD's website
HWinfo
Game launchers (steam, battle.net etc) since they're part of the testing
Games should install these, but I always manually install the latest directX and TPU's big VCredist collection. Those two solve 99% of "missing .dll" errors with games and programs.

Do not install anything like the NZXT software, or anything that goes with peripherals at this point. Let windows update get any and all drivers for now other than GPU and chipset.


With the BIOS sorted and the software sorted, you need to run R23 for that 30 minute period with HWinfo open on the sensors page and fullscreen screenshot the results before it finishes
Then let the PC cool down for 15 minutes, reset HWinfos stats (the clock button) and do the same with CS:GO, the maximum values will be useful there in contrast to the cooled down settings



I'm expecting that GPU to still have a high hotspot temperature, but theres high odds you had some software screwing things up - and something seems weird since your case fan controller made stutter worse. That should be physically impossible unless some trashy software like NZXT cam was lagging out giving the sensor readings for those fans

It's not impossible that your fans are set up strangely and that speeding them up caused something to overheat however, so pictures of the PC setup as a whole would be helpful - the ones in the OP are basically from the same angle and dont show the case fans or the motherboard and its various connectors, and since you've changed boards it's outdated anyway
Very solid tutorial!
 
I replaced those ram stic
Memorie Corsair VENGEANCE® RGB PRO SL, 16GB DDR4, 3200MHz CL16, Dual Channel Kit
https://www.emag.ro/memorie-corsair... product&utm_source=mobile app&utm_medium=ios

I will test them today and comeback with zentimings photo also
I covered the led strip in white.
I will post a picture with it now so you can see

my system specs now are :
Waiting to buy a new case
Mb asus rog strix b550-a gaming
Those corsair ram sticks
Stock cooler and waiting to arrive my old air cooler from id cooling since now my temps are very good with either cooler i mount and i got thermal grizzly kryonaut that helps me more
Switched the psu with corsair rm750 white
Same gpu gtx 1070 ti
 

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Give us update when you'll get new motherboard overload!
 
What that means and why u say that

I just added new ram sticks corsair from that link and i posted 2 photos of zentimings
 

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For testing purpose install ubuntu or just boot it from usb without installing. And check if there is the same problem with mouse. If no, then throw current windows installation file in garbage and burn it.

Btw, I have cpu 4650G (which is 3600x with smaller cache) and B550M DS3H.
Mobo is ideal for this combo and if you still have the same isue then old mobo was fine and there was no need to change it. No throttling or any issues for me. With more powerful cpu maybe it could not handle high boost for long. Been using this setup for 3 years.
 
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I covered the led strip in white.
??
No, i meant that if they're on white lighting mode they draw more power.

That motherboard port is designed for ONE light strip, not a dozen of them from a splitter.

What that means and why u say that

I just added new ram sticks corsair from that link and i posted 2 photos of zentimings
The important readings are greyed out, I have no idea why it cant read any of the values. Run it as adminstrator?

VSoC is visible at 0.99v, which is definitely better than the stock 0.95v - but higher is an option to help troubleshoot (1.10v should be fine, those are single rank sticks)
 
This is the error i get bf opening it with run as administrator yeah i saw now they are greyed out
 

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This is the error i get bf opening it with run as administrator yeah i saw now they are greyed out

Can you get USB. Then download ubuntu bootable via usb. Boot from USB to ubuntu and check if mouse lagging will be there.
 
This lag it s on every windows doesn t matter i just found out my monitor it s making the lag beside the old ram sticks
I tested today with a 240hz monitor from my friend and found out i will buy a new monitor and comeback with update since this monitor that i have now i got it resealed mb that s why it had something and i found out just now
 
Somethings very wrong with that operating system if you can't even run zentimings.

So far you've said its the RGB, the mouse, the monitor and the RAM - which implies it's none of those things and something else you haven't figured out yet.
you said you had this problem on an older PC with a different monitor as well, there's a LOT of contradictions going on here.

Seriously - fire up ubuntu or linux mint in a live USB environment. Don't install it.
You're going to have to start small with this or it wont be possible to help you since the information coming back is contradicting itself and that rules out all software issues as well as storage related problems.
 
I never said the mouse
First the rgb strip added lag
Then the ram sticks
After i excluded this i tried another moniter and everything was fine but i only can be 100% after i buy a new one and test this
On that old pc i cannot pronounce what was the problem because it was trash and i could only play 1.6
And zentimings it s from the app or windows idk
 
Intense mouse lag mouse lag i never said it s the mouse itself look at all the post i said it s not the mouse and i m getting mouse lag from pc from something else read all the post before
 
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