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I have got a notebook with i7-12700H and the same issue with EDP OTHER RING throttling that appears under load. I tried everything i could to change this behavior of the notebook but the solution was really hard to come by. Recently i accidentially found a solution, can't kind of say it's "the very right one" but it works fine and you may find it below.
Other solutions have yet to be found. Possibly...
PREMISE PART.
My model is Asus Lingyao Pro 16 2022 (originally it's Vivobook Pro 16X but this one is limited version for China having some differences)
Processor is i7-12700H. Full specs here
https://store.asus.com.cn/store/product-1494134727.html.
Surely i carefully looked over all reviews i could find before i decided to make an order.
The reviews posted at chinese resources were well made, and seemed to be true, again i did a lot of search before i bought this item.
I terms of trottling, reviews' authors reported decent results and benchmark numbers looked good.
Reviews can be found here:
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Unfortunately my item has overheating and throttling issues that i noticed right after when i started to test it.
So far i didn't manage to find out for sure if it is just thermal related issue or some kind of production defect.
MAIN PART.
You may see all my setting in ThrottleStop attached. The main idea is to get maximum performance.
Uefi bios it locked to make any changes like that.
Things like VM, core isolation, and smart app control are disabled.
I can't change IccMax. Current value is 160 i suppose.
FIVR is locked.
Below i'm going to refer to what's discussed here, because as it seems we have a common issues.
As a drawback, I can note the much higher temperature of the third core of the Intel processor, which causes thermal throttling. In particular, the processor 17-12700h of this computer has a curved processor surface, which indicates that a layer of material is several tenths of a millimeter thicker over the location of the third core than over the remaining cores. But that's just my opinion.
Confirmed. I have also noticed higher temperature of the 2nd and 4th p-cores. Sometimes under load i do not see a good temperature distribution among cores, especially because of indicated two p-cores, which is the reason of throttling. As for thermal and cooling part, i havn't touched this thing yet.
Does the Cache Ratio immediately drop when running Cinebench?
Confirmed. It drops immediately.
My numbers in Cinebench R23 are ~14500/1800.
the issue of EDP OTHER throttling in RING.
This thing bothered me all the time. Whenever it blinks red, i noticed throttling immediately.
I found the AIDA64 Cashe test for an XMG NEO 15 E22 laptop (i7-12700H/RTX 3080 Ti)
Agreed. I was going to buy it, but its chassis design and display were the reasons why i changed my mind. I watched a hour interview on YouTube when they presented and tested new XMG NEO, it's really awesome thing. It has additional water cooling system but even without it, only using air cooling, it passes benchmark noticeably better than others. Last time i checked it always took 1th or 2nd place in comparison tables of benchmarks charts.
In my opinion, a scale of how much throttling may affect to performance drop can be like this:
1. BD PROCHET - causes huge performance degradation, it's visually noticeable in any task you do, the most worst thing you may get ever
2. EDP OTHER in RING - causes drop in cpu and cache performance and probably much more, it's visually noticeable in any task you do, a worst thing too
3. THERMAL in CORE - causes not much drop in performance, sometimes it can be visually noticed but rare
4. THERMAL in RING - causes not much drop in performance, sometimes it can be visually noticed but rare
5. EDP OTHER in CORE - causes not much drop in performance, sometimes it can be visually noticed but rare
6. EDP OTHER in GPU - to be honest i didn't visually notice any performance drop in ordinary tasks
FINAL PART.
This way EDP OTHER in RING causes a noticeable drop in performance.
The first method to get rid of this is to set lower max setting for cache ratio in ThrottleStop, that's it.
Default values were 4/40
Current values are 4/36
In my case, 36 is the maximum value when i get EDP in RING disappeared. If i set it higher, it appears again.
Now i'm using this as remedy. The point is this method is not slow down the notebook, as i thought it would do in the first place.
There is another way to forget about EDP OTHER in RING. We don't touch cache setting, instead we change only one setting in TPL:
Miscellaneous -> check Speed Shift ->set 4 for Min (or any other value) -> then set 52 for Max
In my case if i set higher value then 52, EDP in RING appears again.
This method brings to lower cpu frequency and probably downgrade overall performance, that's why i decided to use first method.
Finally, having all of these settings applied, the only following throttling icons are displayed sometimes:
CORE THERMAL, RING THERMAL
CORE EDP OTHER, GPU EDP OTHER
What else, well, another good option for performance in ThrottleStop to tune is PROCHET.
My default value was 92. I increased it to 97 via offset value (see screenshot attached).
If i use higher value like 98, i will see BD PROCHET under stress test that ruins overall performance of the notebook very much.
So in my case the maximum safe value is 97.
PS. Cinebench R23 performed with cache ratio 4/36. If i switch back to default ratio 4/40, numbers become sufficiently lower.
CONCLUSION PART.
Currently i was able to fix some performance issues thanks to ThrottleStop and other software. I literally have no words to express my respect and gratitude to mr unclewebb for what he is done. Thanks!
A guessed issue with the abnormal curvature of the cpu, if it turns out to be true, can be fixed too. I know how to do it, it's possible, i trust.
Next i consider to switch to liquid metal for cpu and gpu that will require some preparation for metal surface of thermal plate.
If it happens i'll post my updated benchmark results.
Hope it helps to someone!