Starfield discussion thread

Launcestonian · Sep 1, 2023

Ferrum Master said:
Are you crazy guys? It is Bethsoft... you shouldn't touch it after 10th patch of open alpha test.

Yep, I am but only cause' bored with modding former Beth games atm... no one does open world RPGs like these guys.. bugs & all!

evernessince said:
People buying the premium edition to play early are only supporting bad business practices. Gamers can complain all they want about the state of the game industry but it's their own actions that have largely fostered them. That starfield is pulling this BS is an instant no buy from me.

I agree in principal. But got the standard game for nothing now only cause of another cpu & board purchase I just did.

arni-gx · Sep 1, 2023

arni-gx said:
so, this rpg pc has full support of 3440x1440 ?? FO 4 & TES V does not full support of 3440x1440.

BUMP, plz...... some people in reddit has say it, that there is problems with that ... ??

Super Firm Tofu · Sep 1, 2023

arni-gx said:
BUMP, plz...... some people in reddit has say it, that there is problems with that ... ??

Sorry, can't help as I don't have an ultra-wide.

Give it some time, Early Access has only been out for three hours.

Dr. Dro · Sep 1, 2023

arni-gx said:
BUMP, plz...... some people in reddit has say it, that there is problems with that ... ??

The only thing to keep in mind, so far, is that the performance tends to be really poor. I disabled FSR and dynamic resolution as I'm playing at 1080p and my system has a certain degree of difficulty keeping the fps in the triple digits, which is astounding given how extreme my specs are for 1080p gaming

SSD Required statement is correct, game stutters a lot even on a 10k RPM VelociRaptor

DLSS and XeSS have already been modded in and mod was already released, it's on the Nexus

Mod unavailable

This mod is not currently available

www.nexusmods.com

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

wolf said:
Which rig is that? my assumption is 4090 rig, 4k max w/DLSS Q getting ~90-100 fps now?

80-90 at 70% scale there is no preset you enable DLSS and select a % to scale from. It's an interesting mod that technically requires two mods to work it'll crash repeatedly if you install it wrong.

My 3080ti got retired from 4k duties it can no longer perform to my standards in a lot of games I play. Awesome at 1440p but can litterally be half as fast in some scenarios as the 4090.

Lost_Troll · Sep 1, 2023

arni-gx said:
so, this rpg pc has full support of 3440x1440 ?? FO 4 & TES V does not full support of 3440x1440.

It does for me and ran without issue, and so far, I like the game.

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

evernessince said:
It's $30 more than the base game (which is also the increased $70 instead of $60)

We know nothing about this included expansion. I don't really see the point in rushing out to buy content the quality and length of which we know nothing about for a game whose quality has yet to be thoroughly tested. Bethesda uses the world "expansion" very liberally. This is the company that brought you horse armor after all. Let's be honest, people are just using that as an excuse to get the game early. Nothing but mental gymnastics to justify what is further degeneracy in the way games are marketed and sold.

The game costed less than an evening out to dinner with my wife I'll live......

fusseli · Sep 1, 2023

Dr. Dro said:
The only thing to keep in mind, so far, is that the performance tends to be really poor. I disabled FSR and dynamic resolution as I'm playing at 1080p and my system has a certain degree of difficulty keeping the fps in the triple digits, which is astounding given how extreme my specs are for 1080p gaming

SSD Required statement is correct, game stutters a lot even on a 10k RPM VelociRaptor

DLSS and XeSS have already been modded in and mod was already released, it's on the Nexus

Mod unavailable

This mod is not currently available

www.nexusmods.com

Sorry bro but a velociraptor is a Yugo compared to an SSD Tesla. SSD came out 10-15 years ago, the tech is mature and orders of magnitude superior. You should upgrade.

bubbleawsome · Sep 1, 2023

Wow, I was planning on playing on my 4k tv with my 3080, but that’s not looking too good atm. Maybe people will have optimized setting guides by the time standard release comes around.

Dr. Dro · Sep 1, 2023

fusseli said:
Sorry bro but a velociraptor is a Yugo compared to an SSD Tesla. SSD came out 10-15 years ago, the tech is mature and orders of magnitude superior. You should upgrade.

No questioning that, mechanical HDDs are obsolete for this type of usage, but it's still one of the fastest HDDs around when it comes to seek time (high RPM). This is not an "I need to upgrade" scenario, though, I have 3 NVMe SSDs on my machine and space for another two - look at my specs

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

bubbleawsome said:
Wow, I was planning on playing on my 4k tv with my 3080, but that’s not looking too good atm. Maybe people will have optimized setting guides by the time standard release comes around.

If you use the mod and don't mind DLSS performance scaling it should be fine.

arni-gx · Sep 1, 2023

Dr. Dro said:
The only thing to keep in mind, so far, is that the performance tends to be really poor. I disabled FSR and dynamic resolution as I'm playing at 1080p and my system has a certain degree of difficulty keeping the fps in the triple digits, which is astounding given how extreme my specs are for 1080p gaming

SSD Required statement is correct, game stutters a lot even on a 10k RPM VelociRaptor

DLSS and XeSS have already been modded in and mod was already released, it's on the Nexus

Mod unavailable

This mod is not currently available

www.nexusmods.com

seriously ?? u have rtx 4080 16gb, dude !!

anyway....

if i have bought this game, i will try to play => vsync=ON with high default 3440x1440 75hz, FSR=ON.... with my old hDD...... ^^

Dr. Dro · Sep 1, 2023

arni-gx said:
seriously ?? u have rtx 4080 16gb, dude !!

anyway....

if i have bought this game, i will try to play => vsync=ON with high default 3440x1440 75hz, FSR=ON.... with my old hDD...... ^^

Like I said... don't install it on an HDD. The game will freeze and lag sporadically with lots of stuttering that will not occur on an SSD. If you don't have an SSD, buy one before you download it. Seriously.

But yeah, I have a very high end system. Game still seems to demand a lot out of it.

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

Dr. Dro said:
Like I said... don't install it on an HDD. The game will freeze and lag sporadically with lots of stuttering that will not occur on an SSD. If you don't have an SSD, buy one before you download it. Seriously.

But yeah, I have a very high end system. Game still seems to demand a lot out of it.

Should have gotten dat 4090.... :laugh:

Dr. Dro · Sep 1, 2023

oxrufiioxo said:
Should have gotten dat 4090....

Game runs too well to be GPU limited, plus I've been playing for a few hours non stop and it's barely warm. I've read that the Ryzen 5600X is only good for 40 fps or so. That must be why the game feels so heavy.

fusseli · Sep 1, 2023

Dr. Dro said:
No questioning that, mechanical HDDs are obsolete for this type of usage, but it's still one of the fastest HDDs around when it comes to seek time (high RPM). This is not an "I need to upgrade" scenario, though, I have 3 NVMe SSDs on my machine and space for another two - look at my specs

Cling to that leaded gas, it lubes those valves! lol!

evernessince · Sep 1, 2023

oxrufiioxo said:
The game costed less than an evening out to dinner with my wife I'll live......

It was never about whether you personally could afford it, it was about the principle and the direction such a purchase pushes the industry. There have been countless responses like yours used as justification to defend the purchase of ever increasing predatory monetization tactics by companies and the result is lower quality games, micro-transactions, and now staggered release dates depending on if you bought a premium edition or not. Surely you understand that encouraging these tactics has only lead to an ever increasing slippery slope to the detriment to game quality, something that impacts you regardless of what edition you purchase.

A&P211 · Sep 1, 2023

This game beats my laptop to crap, at 1080, highest settings, 3080ti laptop gets around 55-65fps.

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

evernessince said:
It was never about whether you personally could afford it, it was about the principle and the direction such a purchase pushes the industry. There have been countless responses like yours used as justification to defend the purchase of ever increasing predatory monetization tactics by companies and the result is lower quality games, micro-transactions, and now staggered release dates depending on if you bought a premium edition or not. Surely you understand that encouraging these tactics has only lead to an ever increasing slippery slope to the detriment to game quality, something that impacts you regardless of what edition you purchase.

Your the one on a public forum telling people what to spend their hard earn money on.... Guess what it's none yo business.

Dr. Dro · Sep 1, 2023

evernessince said:
It was never about whether you personally could afford it, it was about the principle and the direction such a purchase pushes the industry. There have been countless responses like yours used as justification to defend the purchase of ever increasing predatory monetization tactics by companies and the result is lower quality games, micro-transactions, and now staggered release dates depending on if you bought a premium edition or not. Surely you understand that encouraging these tactics has only lead to an ever increasing slippery slope to the detriment to game quality, something that impacts you regardless of what edition you purchase.

Well it's not like we've got much in the way of morality here. I mean, AMD literally bribed Bethesda for them to use their own tech! lol

fusseli said:
Cling to that leaded gas, it lubes those valves! lol!

It's funny but I bought 6 of these drives brand new unused last month, lol. It's more for vanity than anything else, I got plenty of SSDs here

oxrufiioxo · Sep 1, 2023

Dr. Dro said:
It's funny but I bought 6 of these drives brand new unused last month, lol.

My buddy had 3-4 of them they where so obnoxiously loud. I feel like that was 13-14 years ago lol

Solaris17 · Sep 1, 2023

Been having issues launching but my CPU and ram usage is going wild.

Code:

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Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Starfield.exe
P2: 1.7.23.0
P3: 10.0.22621.2.0.0
P4: 
P5: 
P6: 
P7: 
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Attached files:
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These files may be available here:
NULL

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Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 8b50d606-e5b4-4886-8bc8-419200c6941c
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 246af3ed2cd0af6b57a59e95228ac8ca
Cab Guid: 0

big oof, looks like memory management isnt fantastic on whatever process its doing. I would say that its unpacking, but I have no drive usage. Absolutely chewing my ram.

Might try to repair.

Super Firm Tofu · Sep 1, 2023

Solaris17 said:

Been having issues launching but my CPU and ram usage is going wild.

Code:

Fault bucket 1703942397396437194, type 5
Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Starfield.exe
P2: 1.7.23.0
P3: 10.0.22621.2.0.0
P4:
P5:
P6:
P7:
P8:
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Temp\RDR64CA.tmp\empty.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.63059613-2d2a-4a8f-bb34-745e3ed2ef4a.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.dd109998-3b14-45e0-8c57-cf4b24b951cd.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.d202f15f-8a6a-4f74-b145-7435d319f39b.tmp.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.7c52343a-bcc3-4007-9e31-5c80bdd2942d.tmp.xml

These files may be available here:
NULL

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 8b50d606-e5b4-4886-8bc8-419200c6941c
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 246af3ed2cd0af6b57a59e95228ac8ca
Cab Guid: 0

big oof, looks like memory management isnt fantastic on whatever process its doing. I would say that its unpacking, but I have no drive usage. Absolutely chewing my ram.

Might try to repair.

View attachment 311559

I think it’s because of the ARC.

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Solaris17 · Sep 1, 2023

I see that now! Thanks! I swapped my 4090 out because its faster to prototype the flash tool instead of using my test rig. I will try to play with it see if I can get it to start.

Fouquin · Sep 1, 2023

Solaris17 said:

Been having issues launching but my CPU and ram usage is going wild.

Code:

Fault bucket 1703942397396437194, type 5
Event Name: RADAR_PRE_LEAK_64
Response: Not available
Cab Id: 0

Problem signature:
P1: Starfield.exe
P2: 1.7.23.0
P3: 10.0.22621.2.0.0
P4:
P5:
P6:
P7:
P8:
P9:
P10:

Attached files:
\\?\C:\Users\Administrator\AppData\Local\Temp\RDR64CA.tmp\empty.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.63059613-2d2a-4a8f-bb34-745e3ed2ef4a.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.dd109998-3b14-45e0-8c57-cf4b24b951cd.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.d202f15f-8a6a-4f74-b145-7435d319f39b.tmp.txt
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER.7c52343a-bcc3-4007-9e31-5c80bdd2942d.tmp.xml

These files may be available here:
NULL

Analysis symbol:
Rechecking for solution: 0
Report Id: 8b50d606-e5b4-4886-8bc8-419200c6941c
Report Status: 268435456
Hashed bucket: 246af3ed2cd0af6b57a59e95228ac8ca
Cab Guid: 0

big oof, looks like memory management isnt fantastic on whatever process its doing. I would say that its unpacking, but I have no drive usage. Absolutely chewing my ram.

Might try to repair.

View attachment 311559

Arc A770 spotted. There's your problem. I also tried and found it wouldn't launch.

I am now in the process of assessing "Minimum Viable Starfield" by throwing all kinds of wacky configurations at the game just to see what will launch. Skyrim would run on hardware from 2005, so let's see how far back Starfield will go. I am now infinitely more interested in running the game on hardware it shouldn't run on, than actually playing the game.

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