Minisforum Venus Series NPB5 Mini-PC (Intel i5-13500H)

[crazyeyesreaper]

The Minisforum Venus Series NPB5 with an Intel Core i5-13500H delivers a fantastic user experience thanks to the performance and many valuable features. If you need a system that can handle multiple displays, demanding CPU workloads, and two USB4 ports, the NPB5 has you covered.

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[Space Lynx]

Venus UM790 Pro

Minisforum UM790 PRO is Powered by AMD Ryzen™ 9 7940HS Processor and AMD Radeon™ 780M. Dual NVMe PCIe4.0 & Dual 40Gbps USB4. Intel® Killer™ AX1675 Wi-Fi 6E Network Card. The UM790 Pro Features An Innovative Cooling System That Actively Cools The Memory and SSD

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this one seems like the better deal to me, zen 7940hs top tier zen 4 and only $519. much better integrated graphics, etc.

 

[SundayOverclocker]

For $460 it's probably a draw between 13500H and 7940HS, however, I doubt that price is available worldwide.

 

[Space Lynx]

For $460 it's probably a draw between 13500H and 7940HS, however, I doubt that price is available worldwide.

its not even close for gamers with older backlog or indie games. 7940hs by a mile and then some.

 

[SundayOverclocker]

How so? Where can I find some benchmarks? Are you referring solely to the iGPU performance?

 

[Space Lynx]

Are you referring solely to the iGPU performance?

yes

 

[Nostras]

How so? Where can I find some benchmarks? Are you referring solely to the iGPU performance?

Notebookcheck has some scores

Mobile Graphics Cards - Benchmark List

Sort and filter through all currently available mobile graphics cards by performance or specification.

www.notebookcheck.net

Or check a recent review and compare it against the 7940HS.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Minisforum-Venus-Series-NPB5-review-The-mini-PC-with-Raptor-Lake-H-aka-an-Intel-Core-i5-13500H-and-USB4.738288.0.html#toc-11

Intel just kinda sucks for (very) low-power and igpu related tasks rn.

 

[pressing on]

For $460 it's probably a draw between 13500H and 7940HS, however, I doubt that price is available worldwide.

There is a difference between the headline barebones price and 'fully equipped' prices. Fully equipped, with 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM the price of a NBP5 13500H is typically around 25% less than the UM790 Pro with the same SSD capacity and RAM. The UM790 Pro is the 7940HS model and does have better Wi-Fi than the NBP5 - the Intel Killer AX1675 6E unit. So take your pick, pay less or enjoy gaming performance around the GTX 1650 level. Intel will make some money out of you either way.

 

[Space Lynx]

There is a difference between the headline barebones price and 'fully equipped' prices. Fully equipped, with 1TB SSD and 32GB RAM the price of a NBP5 13500H is typically around 25% less than the UM790 Pro with the same SSD capacity and RAM. The UM790 Pro is the 7940HS model and does have better Wi-Fi than the NBP5 - the Intel Killer AX1675 6E unit. So take your pick, pay less or enjoy gaming performance around the GTX 1650 level. Intel will make some money out of you either way.

meh, its really cheap to buy ram on amazon, and i have plenty of spare storage. so i am considering the 7940hs barebones actually.

 

[pressing on]

meh, its really cheap to buy ram on amazon, and i have plenty of spare storage. so i am considering the 7940hs barebones actually.

Minisforum don't do the NBP5 as a barebones. But it does have a barebones option for many of its AMD units, so yes with existing storage and cheap RAM the UM790 Pro barebones is a great deal.

 

[Six_Times]

I wish they skipped 13th gen and waited a few months and went right to Intel's 14th. My money goes to the first mini / nuc company whoever releases 14th gen. We have an office with 12 work stations, that's what we'll buy.

 

[bblzd]

With temps getting 90C+ under warmer ambient conditions and continued usage, how do these machines hold up in the long run?

Other mini PC I've seen for sale tend to break down after a few years, just wondering if minisforum are better in that regards. Assuming the machines are actually being used daily (workloads that push thermal and power envelope).

 

[bonehead123]

Well, as a long time user of 7 different mini-me boxes over the past 5 years or so, including my current Beelink Sei (2.5 yrs old), I can say that I have NEVER had a single issue with any of them.... and the 1st one I bought only cost me ~$200 with 8GB ram, 256GB m.2 AND W10pro included, and worked just fine, but shortly afterwards, I started working with large databases, complex spreadsheets, and some light CAD work, so that was the only reason I moved on to newer, faster units...

Several of my coworkers own a few of the last 2 gens of minisforum boxes and have nothing but good things to say about them...

This past several summers here there were multiple hot, humid days in the upper 90's (F) outdoors, with indoor temps ~70F, but we saw zero issues with the machine's temps under heavy workloads for 8-10 hours per day X 6 days/week....