ASUS GeForce RTX 4060 Ti Dual OC

[80-watt Hamster]

560/460 OC to 660 to 760 OC 33%
no consistency after that for Nvidia really
1060 100%
2060 75%
3060 25%
4060 15%

Right, cuz like I said, 2060 wasn't the successor of 1060: 1660 was. Everything went wonky with the RTX cards. The only RTX cards Nvidia's launched since that come close to playing in that market are the 3050 and 4060. The 2060 and 3060 weren't in same class in price or power envelope.

See how the midrange tries to lag behind and then at some point suddenly there is a generation which tries to make it look good again...
Because if they don't do it, at some point the midrange will turn to 1% of the performance of the current flagship...


GTX 280
+57% performance improvement GTX 480
+52% performance improvement GTX 680
+54% performance improvement GTX 780 Ti
+28% performance improvement GTX 980 Ti
+67% performance improvement GTX 1080 Ti
+31% performance improvement RTX 2080 Ti
+78% performance improvement RTX 3090 Ti
+45% performance improvement RTX 4090
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average: 51.5%


Radeon HD 4870
+70% performance Radeon HD 5870
+19% performance Radeon HD 6970
+44% performance Radeon HD 7970
+50% performance Radeon R9 290X
+31% performance Radeon R9 Fury X
+32% performance Radeon RX Vega 64
+22% performance Radeon VII
+95% performance Radeon RX 6900 XT
+47% performance Radeon RX 7900 XTX
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average: 45.5%

We weren't talking about flagships. The high end doesn't play by the same rules as the price-sensitive mainstream. Also, you forgot the GTX 580, which was +24% against the 480, with the 680 +23% above that. Swapping out the halo x90 cards for their more-reasonable x80 siblings gets us +40% on average. More than the 33% we saw from Kepler to Turing for sure, but price came right along with it. The Fermi cards were $500. Maxwell jumped to $700, which held until the 2080 ti charged you an extra $300 for that 31% over the 1080 ti. At least it stuck to 250W; the 3080 ti wanted $1200 and 350W for the 52% bump it provided. The +78% you highlighted from the 3090 ti required 450W and a cool two grand. If we go back almost-sane cards, the 4080 gained 33% over the 3080 ti for the same money and a little less power.

I didn't do the same comparison with AMD because they're too inconsistent; GCN 4 and Navi 1 didn't even get high-end chips. The 4870-5870 is misleading because despite nomenclature, the weren't in the same bracket: $300/150W vs. $400/190W. The 6900 XT gain is inflated due to the aforementioned skipping of Navi 1 high end. It also got a price bump to a thousand bucks.

You're right about a couple of things at least: It's not exactly sunshine and rainbows in the <$300 space. There hasn't really been anything compelling there recently other than the RX 6600. The 7600 is a reasonable 26% faster, but at the cost of pulling as much power as a 6600 XT while beating that card by less than 10%. Oof.

Look, I get why you're frustrated. But allowing your expectations to be set by the increasingly-ridiculous flagships is just setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[ARF]

Also, you forgot the GTX 580

It doesn't count. GTX 580 is simply GTX 480+ done so because GTX 480 had severe problems and the GF100 chip needed a new revision. A new revision is not a new generation. Hence, its absence from the list.

While NVIDIA didn't change its product naming policy, it still named the novelty GTX 580, which would normally mean a new generation of products. But we believe it would've been more logical to name the chip GTX 485 (similar to GTX 285), because GF110 doesn't have any radical architectural changes. Yes, it's been overhauled, but the functional differences from GF100 are still not enough to consider GF110 a new-generation solution. But as you know, product naming is handled by marketing departments. It isn't based on actual capabilities often.

iXBT Labs - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 Graphics Card - Page 1: Introduction, specs, architecture

The 6900 XT gain is inflated due to the aforementioned skipping of Navi 1 high end.

There was a second gen high-end Vega called Vega 20 and Radeon VII, instead of a big Navi 1.

 

[N/A]

I see the connection 980 Ti is a 1660 Ti for 60% off the price and 2080 Ti is a 4060 Ti 1200 to 500 again 60% off. And you decide 16 or 8GB suits you the most.. but the Flagship eventually turns into this. a 128 bit low 60's. in a way we are talking about flagships made relatively more accessible after some waiting period of 4 years. But somehow people are still unhappy. Same goes for 4090 and 6060 Ti i guess.

 

[Bi7hazard]

I am not convinced that this GPU works properly with 16 GB. The reviews showed 1% performance difference against the 8GB variant, while the RX 6800 16GB is 22% faster.
Your choice is Radeon RX 6800 16GB and use AMD Software settings for further adjustments.

I went from 1660ti to 6650xt and 6800 (not xt) I had an infinite amount of micro stuttering (0.1%) in many games, except the benchmarks... premise: I used DDU / I formatted the two PCs (two PCs, it's not an error, both intel and amd) I updated both bios, installed the amd software in all three modes, including minimal. The problems were not resolved, finally I had many conflict problems with virtualization software like vmware I switched to the 4060 ti asus dual, all the problems disappeared... better to have old drivers that actually work.

there is only one thing I don't like about this asus dual, and that's the coil whine, it's very annoying.. and it seems I'm not the only one on youtube.
Fortunately, it seems that by limiting the framerate, the problem goes away

 

[Taraquin]

I went from 1660ti to 6650xt and 6800 (not xt) I had an infinite amount of micro stuttering (0.1%) in many games, except the benchmarks... premise: I used DDU / I formatted the two PCs (two PCs, it's not an error, both intel and amd) I updated both bios, installed the amd software in all three modes, including minimal. The problems were not resolved, finally I had many conflict problems with virtualization software like vmware I switched to the 4060 ti asus dual, all the problems disappeared... better to have old drivers that actually work.

there is only one thing I don't like about this asus dual, and that's the coil whine, it's very annoying.. and it seems I'm not the only one on youtube.
Fortunately, it seems that by limiting the framerate, the problem goes away

Undervolt may also solve it Running 2800@950mv should give you stock perf and less coilwhine

 

[Bi7hazard]

Undervolt may also solve it Running 2800@950mv should give you stock perf and less coilwhine

mmm, do you mean with msi afterburner? Because with the Asus GPU Tweak III program I don't think I can go down to that level. However, at the moment it's as if I've solved it, I mean... when I keep the frame rate steady at 60 or 120fps or more you can't even hear it at minimum, perhaps because the current remains stabilized and consequently there aren't those vibrations that translate into coil whine

 

[Taraquin]

mmm, do you mean with msi afterburner? Because with the Asus GPU Tweak III program I don't think I can go down to that level. However, at the moment it's as if I've solved it, I mean... when I keep the frame rate steady at 60 or 120fps or more you can't even hear it at minimum, perhaps because the current remains stabilized and consequently there aren't those vibrations that translate into coil whine

Afterburner

 

[Bi7hazard]

mmm, do you mean with msi afterburner? Because with the Asus GPU Tweak III program I don't think I can go down to that level. However, at the moment it's as if I've solved it, I mean... when I keep the frame rate steady at 60 or 120fps or more you can't even hear it at minimum, perhaps because the current remains stabilized and consequently there aren't those vibrations that translate into coil whine

Afterburner

I hope it wasn't a joke because it wasn't pleasant, the result was a crash of the PC, followed by some artifacts in the taskbar. 2800mhz is too much....
or maybe I shouldn't use furmark for undervolt

 

[Taraquin]

I hope it wasn't a joke because it wasn't pleasant, the result was a crash of the PC, followed by some artifacts in the taskbar. 2800mhz is too much....
or maybe I shouldn't use furmark for undervolt

Try 2700 or 2600

 

[Bi7hazard]

I'll try later, for the moment I'm happy with the power limit, considering that I have a Ryzen 3700x and the video card is already bottlenecked (especially at 99%)

Superposition Benchmark

Results [ 1080P MEDIUM ]

Ryzen 7 3700x (100% Power)
Asus 4060ti (100% Power | 142W )
Score: 22.097 . it should push up to 24,318 with a ryzen 5800x, so I lose 10%

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Asus 4060ti (100% Power | 142W)
Score: 21.006

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Ryzen 7 3700x (100% Power)
Asus 4060ti (63% Power | 100W )
Score: 20.603

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Asus 4060ti (63% Power | 100W )
Score: 19.978

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Msi 6650 Gam.X (100% Power )
Score: 18.995

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Msi 6650 Gam.X ( Undervolt + Oc memory 129w but in reality there will be 50-60w which doesn't count, a classic for the 6000 series )
Score: 18.850

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Gb 1660 Ti ( 100% Power | 122w )
Score: 12.073

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Ryzen 7 3700x (99% Power)
Gb 1660 Ti ( 80% Power | 98w )
Score: 11.706

By 99% I mean that I set the maximum power from the energy saving options, so I lower the temp by 16° and I have a very low low v-core, considering that I play at 1080p at 60-75fps it's perfect, probably a base 4060 would be was more than enough

I gained about 76% power (cpu 100%) / 70.6% cpu 99% Compared to the 1660ti

Cinebenchmarch R20
4743cb | 100% 88.1W 66° = r7 3700x +2.5% perf
4628cb | 99% 54.2W 50° = r7 3700x

 

[Peteraven]

or a 12GB 6700XT for $70-80 less.

Given that 8GB has a very shaky future for gaming giving current trends, I'm going say that buying a used 8GB GPU is an even better idea than it usually is. Buying a brand new card with a long warranty isn't a selling point when the useful lifespan of 8GB VRAM has been a hot-button question for the last 9 months already and the situation is definitely getting worse, not better.

Don't like Radeons? No problem. The 4060Ti is basically just a 3060Ti with some features that vanishingly few games will use in the 40-series' working lifespan. Buy a 3060Ti or 3070 for $250-300 and you'll have money left to buy that copy of Starfield that you denied yourself by avoiding a Radeon.

Yes , like me i don't like AMD Radeons,,

Only the AMD Cpu's are ok.

I bought the 1st amd radeon, back almost 20 years ago, shuted down pc and restarted, changed for a Nvida very old with 256 Mb memory only.

Do you know the only problem it have ? A broken wing on a fan , but still worked , ok with a lot of loud noise,

Then in 2018 bought the all mighty RX 480 8 gb msi gaming , On the time that drivers are ok to have in one computer (AMD + NVIDIA)-
that started to happen problems after a year. Turn on VPN it frozen PC, (that's a very weird) problem. Ok No problem had a 2nd cheap Nvidia to watch Netflix.

But then this was after warranty , it started to when game on, after 5 min and not only, it blacks screen , fans of GPU go to maximum, and not recognizable by system.
Yes, this started to happen +2 years after i bought it.
So is the problem of MSI or AMD. I bet is AMD Radeon.
SO i have a GPU broken to game and can't turn on VPN, forget to tell that freezes PC randomly also.

What do i do since warranty is over?
Sell it was broken parts on ebay, right. ?

So like me that had 2 AMD radeons over the year (always problems).
and the only problem i had with NVIDIA was a broken fan.

So like me yes i don't like AMD Radeon for terrible experiences.
Amd can sell GPU with more memory , bla bla bla , more fps , bla bla . Price??? well nowadays Radeon isn't cheaper anymore
But yes i don't like AMD Radeons. For personal experience.

I just have to buy NVIDIA .

Your post , was written 1 year ago , guess no one will read. but ok. Just had to write , thanks.