Intel Core "Meteor Lake" Confirmed NOT Coming to Desktops, Only AIOs and Mini PCs

[Denver]

Intel and its mental gymnastics... Meh. I don't believe anything they advertise.

 

[bonehead123]

Next headline:

Hello Intel, this is the CHIPS Act calling, and we wanna buy ALL that prime beachfront property you own (in central Utah) to build a new fab to make these new chips...just sign on the dotted line and it'll be a done deal ........

 

[chrcoluk]

This is a good thing not a bad thing, now days is waaaaay too many hardware releases.

Absolutely no need for them to keep releasing cpu's as fast as they are.

 

[watzupken]

Meteor Lake sounds like a rehash of Ice Lake (fortunately not the failed Cannon Lake) when they first rolled out 10nm. Don't sound like an exciting product since it is probably like a "pipe cleaning" chip. And it is not looking very promising because even as a mobile only chip, the max power draw is still very high if the 125W peak power draw is true.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Pulling the trigger on that 13900k of mine seems like the better choice by the day.
Big improvement over 12900k (almost choose this one..), just about as any upcoming 14900k and no real performance uplift from Intel in the near future.

Shame it underclock like cr*!& and do bad with my memory config, but you can`t have it all I guess...

This just further cements my purchase of a 14th gen CPU. And i was told and made fun of for not waiting for meteor lake

 

[kondamin]

Intel needs to dump their entire naming scheme.
No more core anything

 

[Dirt Chip]

This just further cements my purchase of a 14th gen CPU. And i was told and made fun of for not waiting for meteor lake

imo, there were a good reason to wait a year from 12th to 13th. Extra 8 e-cores and more refined process and better MT efficiency. But the way it turned out, with MTL cancellation, 14th will not see the same uplift.

 

[Squared]

Meteor Lake sounds like a rehash of Ice Lake (fortunately not the failed Cannon Lake) when they first rolled out 10nm. Don't sound like an exciting product since it is probably like a "pipe cleaning" chip. And it is not looking very promising because even as a mobile only chip, the max power draw is still very high if the 125W peak power draw is true.

From what I've heard, I think we can expect Meteor Lake to perform about as well as Alder Lake, but with much better graphics performance (which does sound like Ice Lake) and better power efficiency.

 

[Hxx]

Yes, Intel gets to make people pay for its products AND then you get to beta test those products too. The company truly is an amazing triumph of capitalism.

i call that VALUE. You get two things for the price of one, and if you are lucky enough that it crashes and causes issues then you get to learn how to troubleshoot so potentially 3 things for the price of one.

 

[Assimilator]

Meteor Lake sounds like a rehash of Ice Lake (fortunately not the failed Cannon Lake) when they first rolled out 10nm. Don't sound like an exciting product since it is probably like a "pipe cleaning" chip. And it is not looking very promising because even as a mobile only chip, the max power draw is still very high if the 125W peak power draw is true.

"Pipe cleaning" is probably a more fair term than "test".

From what I've heard, I think we can expect Meteor Lake to perform about as well as Alder Lake, but with much better graphics performance (which does sound like Ice Lake) and better power efficiency.

I.e. exactly what non-desktop environments care about.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

imo, there were a good reason to wait a year from 12th to 13th. Extra 8 e-cores and more refined process and better MT efficiency. But the way it turned out, with MTL cancellation, 14th will not see the same uplift.

im on 9th gen so it doesnt really matter. Huge improvement regardless for me.

 

[wheresmycar]

So which is it...

ML crash landing on desktop
ML not crash landing on desktop

Its a tough one. Clue: Mini PCs are not small enough for shirt pockets

 

[phanbuey]

So which is it...

ML crash landing on desktop
ML not crash landing on desktop

Its a tough one. Clue: Mini PCs are not small enough for shirt pockets

Challenge accepted.

 

[Dirt Chip]

im on 9th gen so it doesnt really matter. Huge improvement regardless for me.

I upgraded from i5-2400. Imagine the delta

 

[Tek-Check]

Pat...get those senior managers trained...

 

[stimpy88]

Hahahaha, and the fanbois cry.

 

[MaMoo]

So which is it...

ML crash landing on desktop
ML not crash landing on desktop

Its a tough one. Clue: Mini PCs are not small enough for shirt pockets

Don't Look Up

 

[Michaelgr]

Michelle Johnston Holthaus answered some key questions:

Q: Let me ask you, is there gonna be a Meteor Lake desktop?
A: Desktop will come in 2024.

Q: So you are confirming Meteor Lake desktop?
A: Yes.

A: Yes.

A: Yes.

A: Yes.

A: Yes.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

So then why is there an article saying otherwise?

 

[Assimilator]

So then why is there an article saying otherwise?

Because Intel is run by incompetent buffoons.

 

[Squared]

So then why is there an article saying otherwise?

Well it is coming to desktops, in NUC-like devices and all-in-ones. The person either didn't realize that those were not the desktops being asked about or didn't know. I think there's also a 3rd possibility. Broadwell was released on desktop but in very limited form. It would make sense for Intel to release the 6p+8e Meteor Lake module to desktop on the same socket as Arrow Lake. It wouldn't replace Raptor Lake Refresh but it could be a reasonably-good lower power CPU with strong integrated graphics for HTPC, small form factor, and higher-end all-in-one computers and could help bring Arrow Lake-compatible motherboards to market. Given this would use the same chips going into laptops, Intel wouldn't release such a thing until laptop orders have been fulfilled. And Intel could probably wait a while longer before even deciding whether to make it at all. But Intel was in a similar position with Tiger Lake going into Alder Lake and Tiger Lake never came to desktops.

 

[AusWolf]

Well it is coming to desktops, in NUC-like devices and all-in-ones. The person either didn't realize that those were not the desktops being asked about or didn't know.

Those are desktops, so the answer is technically not wrong. I guess we should also re-evaluate the question and ask about DIY desktop and boxed CPUs, not just desktop in general. Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.

 

[Squared]

Those are desktops, so the answer is technically not wrong. I guess we should also re-evaluate the question and ask about DIY desktop and boxed CPUs, not just desktop in general. Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.

Meteor Lake is probably coming in two flavors, low power laptop and high power laptop. The fact that some of these laptop CPUs will happen to be sold in devices which are technically desktops is a given and doesn't need to be asked.

 

[stimpy88]

Sorry, but a NUC is not a desktop. Just because it can sit on a desktop, does not make it so.

My laptop is sitting on my desktop right now and it's having an identity crisis caused by a copeium overdose....

 

[Assimilator]

Typical case of journalists asking the wrong questions, and the tech company getting the blame for answering it wrong.

No.

What happened here is that when the journalist asked about "desktop processors" they meant the common definition of "desktop processors", i.e. socketable CPUs available to consumers that can be swapped in and out of motherboards available to consumers. And the Intel executive understood this perfectly well, as would pretty much anyone who was asked this question.

But she chose to respond as if she'd been asked about _any_ sort of possibility of MTL _ever_ coming to desktop _in any form_ e.g. NUCs, because answering the intended question honestly - i.e. "no" - would be a bad look. In other words, she chose to act like a lawyer or politician and be "economical with the truth", as they say.

Except, that's lying. Sure, she's got an excuse that she can use to claim that she wasn't, i.e. "I interpreted the question differently" - but everyone knows that she chose to interpret the question in the way that she did, just like people know when a lawyer or politician does the same thing.