GPU Temp: 68°C, Hotspot Temp: 100°C (Sapphire Pulse RX 6700XT)

[torkema61]

In the previous post, I stated that I could not manually control the fan curve. When I make a custom setting, the GPU fan speed always runs at 75%. If I only undervolt, the fan speed does not exceed 35%.

So, I use the GPU without making any adjustments, with all my settings set to default. However, while my graphics card temperature does not exceed 68°C, the hotspot temperature is 100°C. Is this normal?

 

[kapone32]

What case do you have this in? What are the specs of your system?

 

[las]

AMD generally have higher hotspot temps
AMD said up to 110C is "fine"

You probably have thermalpaste all over the chip driving up temps

As long as you are not crashing or throttling hard, I don't think you will get help thru RMA either
You can try and repaste if you bother too much

I'd not be too worried about 100C hotspot temp

 

[kapone32]

AMD generally have higher hotspot temps. Nothing new.

AMD said up to 115C is "fine"

That is not true.

 

[las]

That is not true.

Corrected, its 110C and yes AMD say this officially

Google it and look for more AMD GPU users with high hot spot temps, this is nothing new

My 4090 never breaks 90C in comparison at stock, even lower with UV and its the fastest gaming GPU on the planet

I have installed 1000s of ATi, AMD and Nvidia GPUs and coilwhine + high hotspot temps are more present on AMD for sure

>> Nvidia will throttle at 105C hotspot, AMD throttles at 110C hotspot, this is not a coincidence

I have never seen any Nvidia card go to 100C at stock, mostly its 80-90C.
I have seen many AMD cards hit 100C or more, especially the cheapest ones. Some 5700XTs peaked at 110-115C for example (yep some throttled at stock)

7900XTX literally had insane hotspot temps at launch and AMD said 110C is within spec and fine (meaning they would not help you) - Faulty vapor chamber

At 115-120C chip can take damage, melting begins at 125C

 

[Macro Device]

Is this normal?

It's not. You need to RMA this GPU because its reaction on fan curve adjustments is bizarre and so are its thermals. Delta, given it's a normal GPU with an appropriate cooling, should never be more than 25C per 100C. 68*25/100=17C. That said, 85C is the worst hotspot temperature amongst good ones.

In case warranty is no more you should repaste it. Do it carefully, don't mess it up. It's a fragile piece of hardware. Delegate to someone you really trust if you're unsure you can do it yourself. As for the paste of choice, my knowledge is outdated and I can't come up with anything better than MX-4.

 

[kapone32]

Corrected, its 110C and yes AMD say this officially

Google it and look for more AMD GPU users with high hot spot temps, this is nothing new

My 4090 never breaks 90C in comparison at stock, even lower with UV and its the fastest gaming GPU on the planet

I have installed 1000s of ATi, AMD and Nvidia GPUs and coilwhine + high hotspot temps are more present on AMD for sure

>> Nvidia will throttle at 105C hotspot, AMD throttles at 110C hotspot, this is not a coincidence

I have never seen any Nvidia card go to 100C at stock, mostly its 80-90C.
I have seen many AMD cards hit 100C or more, especially the cheapest ones. Some 5700XTs peaked at 110-115C for example (yep some throttled at stock)

7900XTX literally had insane hotspot temps at launch and AMD said 110C is within spec and fine (meaning they would not help you) - Faulty vapor chamber

At 115-120C chip can take damage, melting begins at 125C

Wow, do you ever give AMD any credit? I don't know about your experience but I cannot say I have experienced the same and I have been Gaming since the GTS 450 on PC. I don't know where you get your info but your talk about AMD not supporting the faulty cooler is total BS.

All 7900XTX cards did not have insane hot spot temps as they were not all made the same.

In reference to the OPs card Sapphire Pulse are good for temps with the cooler that is used so I am thinking his fan profile may be too low or his case to small

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[las]

Is it 100C spikes or maintained 100C? What is the highest hotspot temp you have experienced in demanding games with peaked GPU usage?

Wow, do you ever give AMD any credit? I don't know about your experience but I cannot say I have experienced the same and I have been Gaming since the GTS 450 on PC. I don't know where you get your info but your talk about AMD not supporting the faulty cooler is total BS.

All 7900XTX cards did not have insane hot spot temps as they were not all made the same.

In reference to the OPs card Sapphire Pulse are good for temps with the cooler that is used so I am thinking his fan profile may be too low or his case to small

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Yeah sometimes, I like AMD CAS when DLAA is not present for example

Simply stating facts (temp limits) and my own experience

Repaste probably fixes it


AMD MVP says everything below 110C is "fine" like I said -> https://community.amd.com/t5/graphics-cards/heat-hotspot-rx6700xt/td-p/571599

 

[torkema61]

What case do you have this in? What are the specs of your system?

I use this GPU in my Dark N10 brand case at 26°C room temperature. There are 3 fans at the front, 1 exhaust at the back and 2 exhaust fans at the top. The CFM value of my fans is written around 38-40 in the datasheet.
My computer's features:
CPU: Ryzen 5600
CPU Cooler: Aigo Darkflash Darkair ARGB
Motherboard: Gigabyte B550 Aorus Elite V2 (BIOS: FB)
GPU: Sapphire Pulse RX 6700XT
PSU: FSP 600W
RAM: Kingston Fury Beast 4x8GB 3600MHz CL17
OS: Windows 10 22H2

It's not. You need to RMA this GPU because its reaction on fan curve adjustments is bizarre and so are its thermals. Delta, given it's a normal GPU with an appropriate cooling, should never be more than 25C per 100C. 68*25/100=17C. That said, 85C is the worst hotspot temperature amongst good ones.

In case warranty is no more you should repaste it. Do it carefully, don't mess it up. It's a fragile piece of hardware. Delegate to someone you really trust if you're unsure you can do it yourself. As for the paste of choice, my knowledge is outdated and I can't come up with anything better than MX-4.

GPU's warranty is still valid. Technical service is very close to me. I found someone else using the same card. He will test it in the game today and let me know the result. If there is a significant difference, I will warranty the GPU.

 

[GerKNG]

RDNA2 has a huge hotspot delta even under Water.
30°C is not rare. a repaste might lower it to 20.

 

[torkema61]

Is it 100C spikes or maintained 100C? What is the highest hotspot temp you have experienced in demanding games with peaked GPU usage?

It barely exceeds 100°C. Maybe I've seen 102. It usually drops to 95 degrees, but the temperature value fluctuates between 95-100 degrees.

 

[las]

It barely exceeds 100°C. Maybe I've seen 102. It usually drops to 95 degrees, but the temperature value fluctuates between 95-100 degrees.

Would not be worried as long as you hit the performance expectation, but you can try undervolt if you are not going to try and repaste

As I said up to 110C is within spec according to AMD and you should see the intended performance and no issues, you are 10-15C lower than this

 

[kurosagi01]

If the fan speed is not adjusting correctly to your target you are setting in Adrenalin or even Afterburner then that sounds like a dodgy firmware on thee card?
Have you tried DDU (boot into windows safe mode + network disabled) and reinstall drivers to see if it works then?
If the card is still within return policy then maybe return it and get a replacement, otherwise as others have said it is within AMD "specs" but I wouldn't have thought a 6700XT hot spot temp would be that high?

 

[torkema61]

Would not be worried as long as you hit the performance expectation, but you can try undervolt if you are not going to try and repaste

As I said up to 110C is within spec according to AMD and you should see the intended performance and no issues, you are 10-15C lower than this

Yes, I wrote to Sapphire yesterday, but they also said that these temperatures are acceptable. However, on Reddit, they sent the GPU to RMA.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/ybrc2s
I just sent this link to Sapphire. I'm waiting for an answer from them.

If the fan speed is not adjusting correctly to your target you are setting in Adrenalin or even Afterburner then that sounds like a dodgy firmware on thee card?
Have you tried DDU (boot into windows safe mode + network disabled) and reinstall drivers to see if it works then?
If the card is still within return policy then maybe return it and get a replacement, otherwise as others have said it is within AMD "specs" but I wouldn't have thought a 6700XT hot spot temp would be that high?

I haven't tried it with DDU yet, I've only tried it with AMD Cleanup Utility. I may try deleting and reinstalling with DDU today.

I also ordered an SSD and it will arrive today. Maybe I can format it and try everything from scratch.

 

[Vya Domus]

I have a watercooled 7900XT that I put the block on it myself and I still see up to 20C delta between GPU temp and hotspot. 30C-ish difference on a 6000 series air cooled card is not that insane, you can RMA it but I bet whatever they will give you wont be that much better.

This is from TPUs own review of it.

 

[torkema61]

I have a watercooled 7900XT that I put the block on it myself and I still see up to 20C delta between GPU temp and hotspot. 30C-ish difference on a 6000 series air cooled card is not that insane, you can RMA it but I bet whatever they will give you wont be that much better.

This is from TPUs own review of it.
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Yesterday, my friend who uses the same GPU was going to test it and send the result, but he was not available. I am eagerly awaiting its results.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Yeah only after GPU reach 110c on the hotspot it will start to throttle down on clocks my advice is to download MSI Afterburner and there configure manually your fan to work on 100% I believe that you can actually do that also in AMD Adrenalin settings but yeah sometimes it will not work correctly......

 

[torkema61]

Yeah only after GPU reach 110c on the hotspot it will start to throttle down on clocks my advice is to download MSI Afterburner and there configure manually your fan to work on 100% I believe that you can actually do that also in AMD Adrenalin settings but yeah sometimes it will not work correctly......

Should I adjust the mV and MHz values with Afterburner? If I set it with AMD Adrenalin, can there still be a reciprocity?

 

[kurosagi01]

Start of with the basics first, you want to see if your fan speed can be adjusted via software first. If it can push to 100% in either Adrenalin or Afterburner then you should be able to adjust the fan curve to your desire?
But I would try DDU if you have tried using AMD cleanup utility and had no luck, I know some people "don't" recommend using DDU on AMD cards but I have not had any problems.

 

[torkema61]

Start of with the basics first, you want to see if your fan speed can be adjusted via software first. If it can push to 100% in either Adrenalin or Afterburner then you should be able to adjust the fan curve to your desire?
But I would try DDU if you have tried using AMD cleanup utility and had no luck, I know some people "don't" recommend using DDU on AMD cards but I have not had any problems.

There are many friends around me who use AMD GPU and installed all the drivers with DDU. They have never had any problems until now. I will try to remove it with DDU on the weekend.

 

[Bobaganoosh]

I have a watercooled 7900XT that I put the block on it myself and I still see up to 20C delta between GPU temp and hotspot. 30C-ish difference on a 6000 series air cooled card is not that insane, you can RMA it but I bet whatever they will give you wont be that much better.

This is from TPUs own review of it.
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This^ would indicate that a ~15°C is normal. So 32°C delta is a bit excessive.

It's not. You need to RMA this GPU because its reaction on fan curve adjustments is bizarre and so are its thermals. Delta, given it's a normal GPU with an appropriate cooling, should never be more than 25C per 100C. 68*25/100=17C. That said, 85C is the worst hotspot temperature amongst good ones.

In case warranty is no more you should repaste it. Do it carefully, don't mess it up. It's a fragile piece of hardware. Delegate to someone you really trust if you're unsure you can do it yourself. As for the paste of choice, my knowledge is outdated and I can't come up with anything better than MX-4.

I would agree with this^. I would just add a couple things.
1. Sometimes manufacturers won't RMA a card for this problem, so you may be on your own. To be fair to them, it probably would be ok, it just may eventually cause throttling even if it isn't throttling now.
2. Kingpin KPx is great paste for GPUs
3. You'll want to try and find a tear-down review of your specific card so you know what you're in for if you decide to re-paste it yourself. Be aware of any thermal putty and soft thermal pads that you need to keep/re-use. try and be as careful as possible about not damaging them or removing them from what they're intended to cool unless you also plan on buying replacements for those as well. Look for a re-pasting guide from someone reputable for more specific advise.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Should I adjust the mV and MHz values with Afterburner? If I set it with AMD Adrenalin, can there still be a reciprocity?

No worries Afterburner will take priority you just need once to check all on the AMD Adrenalin settings go to the tuning/performance/custom and turn on all and check apply and leave it after that you can use afterburner for OC and for the fan settings........GL

 

[oxrufiioxo]

My Pulse 6700XT is about the same 70c edge 95c hotspot swapped it twice and all 3 where about the same margin of error anyways. That was outside of a case in a 20C ambient room.

 

[eidairaman1]

Have you tried Trixx?

 

[torkema61]

This^ would indicate that a ~15°C is normal. So 32°C delta is a bit excessive.

I would agree with this^. I would just add a couple things.
1. Sometimes manufacturers won't RMA a card for this problem, so you may be on your own. To be fair to them, it probably would be ok, it just may eventually cause throttling even if it isn't throttling now.
2. Kingpin KPx is great paste for GPUs
3. You'll want to try and find a tear-down review of your specific card so you know what you're in for if you decide to re-paste it yourself. Be aware of any thermal putty and soft thermal pads that you need to keep/re-use. try and be as careful as possible about not damaging them or removing them from what they're intended to cool unless you also plan on buying replacements for those as well. Look for a re-pasting guide from someone reputable for more specific advise.

Sapphire said these temperatures are normal for this GPU. I will continue to use it this way. After the warranty period expires, I will replace the paste and pads myself.

No worries Afterburner will take priority you just need once to check all on the AMD Adrenalin settings go to the tuning/performance/custom and turn on all and check apply and leave it after that you can use afterburner for OC and for the fan settings........GL

I haven't had a chance to try DDU yet. This weekend I will uninstall the driver in safe mode with DDU and do a clean installation. Maybe I can even reinstall Windows from scratch, depending on the situation.

My Pulse 6700XT is about the same 70c edge 95c hotspot swapped it twice and all 3 where about the same margin of error anyways. That was outside of a case in a 20C ambient room.

Your temperature values are almost the same as my GPU. Maybe there's really nothing to worry about. Thank you very much for the information you provide.

Have you tried Trixx?

I've tried. Trixx is a terrible program. When I installed it, only 1-2 menus appeared. When I deleted and reinstalled again, the number of menus increased to 3. When I researched, I saw that there were some that did not even show GPU information, so I deleted the program completely.
For example, after installing it, only this information was available.

I was curious and had a friend install it. It looked like this too: