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Is the world better off with AI?

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AI has massive potential for both good and bad. I can't see if it'll be a net positive or a net negative for humanity as a whole, but I hear it's a huge deal for the field of medicine. If it can help eradicate, or produce effective treatments for previously incurable illnesses, then that would be fantastic.
Psst, SpaceX rockets are AI flown and landed. It took hoomans to design the AI, but its the AI that's flying and landing all these astronauts and scientists to the ISS.

 
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Psst, SpaceX rockets are AI flown and landed. It took hoomans to design the AI, but its the AI that's flying and landing all these astronauts and scientists to the ISS.

That's not AI.
 

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That's not AI.
Oh says you? AI is fundamental to SpaceX is many ways, below is just one aspect.

Autonomous Rockets and Landings

The creation of reusable rockets, highlighted by the Falcon 9, is one of SpaceX’s most recognizable accomplishments. These rockets can independently return to Earth and land vertically on a predetermined platform, such as a drone ship in the water or a landing pad on land, thanks to the company’s AI-driven technology. AI algorithms that analyze data from sensors and cameras onboard the rocket enable this achievement. These algorithms determine the rocket’s trajectory, take into consideration factors like wind speed and atmospheric conditions, and modify the engines of the rocket to ensure a perfect landing.


Landing

The Falcon 9 rocket that carried the Dragon crew to the International Space Station reportedly used ML and computer vision to help figure out its landing. The system used both a convex optimization algorithm to help understand how to land the rocket and real-time computer vision to identify the best routing.
 
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Oh says you? AI is fundamental to SpaceX is many ways, below is just one aspect.



Random blogspam excreted by random people with no ties to SpaceX, is not compelling evidence that SpaceX uses artificial intelligence for its rocket launches and retrievals.
 
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Perhaps it is...

Algorithmic Intelligence.
Then perhaps a washing machine has AI.

Algorithms have not yet been proven to show any intelligence.

It's machine learning at best.

LLM is not AI IMHO it's statistical decision making at best, that's not intelligent, it doesn't know why it chooses something or how, , it picks an answer based on what a data set suggests a human would do.
 
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That's not AI.
lol that's friggin autopilot. I wrote one for KSP (which I play with n-body mods so very realistic), it's not an amazing achievement. Have a looksie, it takes you to orbit, and can even handle returns. The language is friggin KOS, a weird interpreted scriptling language, to give you an idea how simple that is. It literally runs on an emulated RISC CPU inside the game that has about the horsepower of a modern toaster.

The script has a lot of kruft due to it being configurable via input buttons and other garbage, as well as having a HALT interrupt for emergencies, but... the point stands. This is dog simple.


Code:
    //ToOrbit.ks


    //Setup CPU

    SET Config: IPU TO 50.

    //First, we'll clear the terminal screen to make it look nice

    CLEARSCREEN.

    //Check if we can run...

    PRINT "SYSTEM READY.".

    UNTIL NOT AG10

    {

        PRINT "HALT.".

        UNTIL NOT AG10

        {

            WAIT 1.

        }

        PRINT "RESUME.".

    }

    UNTIL AG10

    {

        PRINT "BOOTING...".

        UNTIL AG10

        {

            //Turn off SAS

            SAS OFF.

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS")

            {

                //INIT FILESYSTEM

                SWITCH TO 1.

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS").

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS/FP").

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING").

                PRINT "INIT MEMORY...".

                IF AG6

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/POLAR").

                    AG6 OFF.

                }

                IF AG7

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO").

                    AG7 OFF.

                }

                IF AG8

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/NORETURN").

                    AG8 OFF.

                }

                IF NOT AG9

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RGR").

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    AG9 OFF.

                }

            }

            //Init variables

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/POLAR")

            {

                IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO")

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 180.

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 0.

                }

            }

            ELSE

            {

                IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO")

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 270.

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 90.

                }

            }

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/NORETURN")

            {

                SET RETURN TO 0.

            }

            ELSE

            {

                SET RETURN TO 1.

            }

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RGR")

            {

                SET PGR TO 0.

            }

            ELSE

            {

                SET PGR TO 1.

            }

            SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 90).

            LOCK STEERING TO STEERVAR.

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/1")

            {

                PRINT "STANDING BY TO THROTTLEUP.".

                UNTIL SHIP:MAXTHRUST > 0.001

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                }

                SAS OFF.

                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                PRINT "Stage 1 Ignition".

                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 90).

                WAIT 1.

                LOCK STEERING TO STEERVAR.

                PRINT "EXECUTING TURN".

                //Stage1

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 1000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 1000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,89)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 89).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 2000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 2000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,88)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 88).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 3000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 3000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,87)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 87).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 4000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 4000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,86)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 86).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 5000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 5000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,85)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 85).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 6000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 6000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,84)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 84).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 7000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 7000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,83)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 83).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 8000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 8000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,82)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 82).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 9000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 9000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,81)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 81).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 10000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 10000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(SRFPROGRADE)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 20000

                {

                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 20000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,45)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 70).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 65).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 60).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 55).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 50).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 45).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 45000.

                {

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 45).

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 0.1.

                }

                PRINT "Setting HEADING(X,0)".

                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).


                UNTIL SHIP: AVAILABLETHRUST < 2

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: AVAILABLETHRUST < 2

                    {

                        PRINT "Dropping Stage 1".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                        WAIT 2.

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                        PRINT "Stage 2 Ignition".

                    }

                }

                STAGE.

                CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/1").

            }

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2")

            {

                WAIT 1.

                IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 70000

                {

                    PRINT "PROG_ORBIT reached, cutting throttle".

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2").

                    LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                    SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                    PRINT "POWERING DOWN FOR NOW...".

                    SAS ON.

                    AG1 OFF.

                    SHUTDOWN.

                }

                DECLARE APTOOHIGH TO 0.

                UNTIL SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 70000

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 70000

                    {

                        IF PGR = 1

                        {

                            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2NC")

                            {

                                PRINT "STANDBY, DROPPING NOSECONE...".

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, -90).

                                WAIT 4.

                                STAGE.

                                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                                WAIT 4.

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                                CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2NC").

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS > 70000

                    {

                        PRINT "PROG_ORBIT reached, cutting throttle".

                        CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2").

                        LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                        SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                        PRINT "POWERING DOWN FOR NOW...".

                        SAS ON.

                        AG1 OFF.

                        SHUTDOWN.

                    }

                    IF SHIP: APOAPSIS >= 140000

                    {

                        IF ETA: PERIAPSIS > ETA: APOAPSIS

                        {

                            IF APTOOHIGH = 0

                            {

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                                PRINT "STANDING BY TO APOAPSIS FOR NEXT BURN".

                                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE >= SHIP: APOAPSIS - 2500

                                {

                                    IF AG10

                                    {

                                        PRINT "HALT.".

                                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                                        {

                                            WAIT 1.

                                        }

                                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                                    }

                                    WAIT 1.

                                }

                                SET STEERVAR TO PROGRADE.

                                WAIT 4.

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                                SET APTOOHIGH TO 1.

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    IF SHIP: MAXTHRUST < 1

                    {

                        WAIT 1.

                        PRINT "PROG_ORBIT FAILED, ABORT?".

                    }

                }

            }

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3")

            {

                IF RETURN = 1

                {

                    PRINT "DEORBIT BURN.".

                    //Until 62750m

                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                    WAIT 4.

                    UNTIL SHIP: PERIAPSIS < 62750

                    {

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                        LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.

                        IF SHIP: MAXTHRUST < 1

                        {

                            IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 62750

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                                PRINT "DEBORBIT FAILED, ABORT?".

                                UNTIL ALT: RADAR <= 1750

                                {

                                    IF AG10

                                    {

                                        PRINT "HALT.".

                                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                                        {

                                            WAIT 1.

                                        }

                                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                                    }

                                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                                }

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                    SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                    PRINT "DEORBIT BURN COMPLETE.  STANDBY TO ENGINE DROP & ATMO REENTRY.".

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(0, 90).

                    WAIT 4.

                    STAGE.

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3").

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3").

                    //Turn on SAS

                    SAS ON.

                    PRINT "EXECUTION DONE, SHUTTING DOWN".

                    AG1 OFF.

                    SHUTDOWN.

                }

            }

            UNTIL ALT: RADAR < 1750

            {

                IF AG10

                {

                    PRINT "HALT.".

                    UNTIL NOT AG10

                    {

                        WAIT 1.

                    }

                    PRINT "RESUME.".

                }

                IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 70000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                }

                IF SHIP: ALTITUDE < 70000

                {

                    IF PGR = 1

                    {

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    }

                    ELSE

                    {

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                    }

                }

            }

            //Turn on SAS

            SAS ON.

            PRINT "EXECUTION DONE, SHUTTING DOWN".

            AG1 OFF.

            SHUTDOWN.

        }

    }
In practice it works, I just used it minutes ago:

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Oh says you? AI is fundamental to SpaceX is many ways, below is just one aspect.
Buzzwords are also essential to the muskrat and its followers, but no, this is certainly not AI even in the buzzword sense. It's friggin if-then programs of the most basic level.
 
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lol that's friggin autopilot. I wrote one for KSP (which I play with n-body mods so very realistic), it's not an amazing achievement. Have a looksie, it takes you to orbit, and can even handle returns. The language is friggin KOS, a weird interpreted scriptling language, to give you an idea how simple that is. It literally runs on an emulated RISC CPU inside the game.

The script has a lot of kruft due to it being configurable via input buttons and other garbage, as well as having a HALT interrupt for emergencies, but... the point stands. This is dog simple.


Code:
    //ToOrbit.ks


    //Setup CPU

    SET Config: IPU TO 50.

    //First, we'll clear the terminal screen to make it look nice

    CLEARSCREEN.

    //Check if we can run...

    PRINT "SYSTEM READY.".

    UNTIL NOT AG10

    {

        PRINT "HALT.".

        UNTIL NOT AG10

        {

            WAIT 1.

        }

        PRINT "RESUME.".

    }

    UNTIL AG10

    {

        PRINT "BOOTING...".

        UNTIL AG10

        {

            //Turn off SAS

            SAS OFF.

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS")

            {

                //INIT FILESYSTEM

                SWITCH TO 1.

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS").

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS/FP").

                CREATEDIR("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING").

                PRINT "INIT MEMORY...".

                IF AG6

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/POLAR").

                    AG6 OFF.

                }

                IF AG7

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO").

                    AG7 OFF.

                }

                IF AG8

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/NORETURN").

                    AG8 OFF.

                }

                IF NOT AG9

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RGR").

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    AG9 OFF.

                }

            }

            //Init variables

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/POLAR")

            {

                IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO")

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 180.

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 0.

                }

            }

            ELSE

            {

                IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RETRO")

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 270.

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    SET ORBPARAM TO 90.

                }

            }

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/NORETURN")

            {

                SET RETURN TO 0.

            }

            ELSE

            {

                SET RETURN TO 1.

            }

            IF EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/FP/RGR")

            {

                SET PGR TO 0.

            }

            ELSE

            {

                SET PGR TO 1.

            }

            SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 90).

            LOCK STEERING TO STEERVAR.

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/1")

            {

                PRINT "STANDING BY TO THROTTLEUP.".

                UNTIL SHIP:MAXTHRUST > 0.001

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                }

                SAS OFF.

                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                PRINT "Stage 1 Ignition".

                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 90).

                WAIT 1.

                LOCK STEERING TO STEERVAR.

                PRINT "EXECUTING TURN".

                //Stage1

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 1000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 1000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,89)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 89).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 2000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 2000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,88)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 88).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 3000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 3000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,87)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 87).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 4000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 4000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,86)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 86).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 5000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 5000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,85)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 85).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 6000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 6000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,84)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 84).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 7000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 7000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,83)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 83).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 8000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 8000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,82)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 82).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 9000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 9000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,81)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 81).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 10000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 10000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(SRFPROGRADE)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 20000

                {

                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 20000

                    {

                        PRINT "Setting HEADING(ORBPARAM,45)".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 70).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 65).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 60).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 55).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 50).

                        WAIT 2.

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 45).

                    }

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                }

                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE > 45000.

                {

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 45).

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 0.1.

                }

                PRINT "Setting HEADING(X,0)".

                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).


                UNTIL SHIP: AVAILABLETHRUST < 2

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                    IF SHIP: AVAILABLETHRUST < 2

                    {

                        PRINT "Dropping Stage 1".

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                        WAIT 2.

                        SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                        PRINT "Stage 2 Ignition".

                    }

                }

                STAGE.

                CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/1").

            }

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2")

            {

                WAIT 1.

                IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 70000

                {

                    PRINT "PROG_ORBIT reached, cutting throttle".

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2").

                    LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                    SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                    PRINT "POWERING DOWN FOR NOW...".

                    SAS ON.

                    AG1 OFF.

                    SHUTDOWN.

                }

                DECLARE APTOOHIGH TO 0.

                UNTIL SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 70000

                {

                    IF AG10

                    {

                        PRINT "HALT.".

                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                        {

                            WAIT 1.

                        }

                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                    }

                    WAIT 1.

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                    IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 70000

                    {

                        IF PGR = 1

                        {

                            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2NC")

                            {

                                PRINT "STANDBY, DROPPING NOSECONE...".

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, -90).

                                WAIT 4.

                                STAGE.

                                SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(ORBPARAM, 0).

                                WAIT 4.

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                                CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2NC").

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS > 70000

                    {

                        PRINT "PROG_ORBIT reached, cutting throttle".

                        CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/2").

                        LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                        SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                        PRINT "POWERING DOWN FOR NOW...".

                        SAS ON.

                        AG1 OFF.

                        SHUTDOWN.

                    }

                    IF SHIP: APOAPSIS >= 140000

                    {

                        IF ETA: PERIAPSIS > ETA: APOAPSIS

                        {

                            IF APTOOHIGH = 0

                            {

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                                PRINT "STANDING BY TO APOAPSIS FOR NEXT BURN".

                                UNTIL SHIP: ALTITUDE >= SHIP: APOAPSIS - 2500

                                {

                                    IF AG10

                                    {

                                        PRINT "HALT.".

                                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                                        {

                                            WAIT 1.

                                        }

                                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                                    }

                                    WAIT 1.

                                }

                                SET STEERVAR TO PROGRADE.

                                WAIT 4.

                                LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.0.

                                SET APTOOHIGH TO 1.

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    IF SHIP: MAXTHRUST < 1

                    {

                        WAIT 1.

                        PRINT "PROG_ORBIT FAILED, ABORT?".

                    }

                }

            }

            IF NOT EXISTS("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3")

            {

                IF RETURN = 1

                {

                    PRINT "DEORBIT BURN.".

                    //Until 62750m

                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                    WAIT 4.

                    UNTIL SHIP: PERIAPSIS < 62750

                    {

                        IF AG10

                        {

                            PRINT "HALT.".

                            UNTIL NOT AG10

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                            }

                            PRINT "RESUME.".

                        }

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                        LOCK THROTTLE TO 1.

                        IF SHIP: MAXTHRUST < 1

                        {

                            IF SHIP: PERIAPSIS >= 62750

                            {

                                WAIT 1.

                                PRINT "DEBORBIT FAILED, ABORT?".

                                UNTIL ALT: RADAR <= 1750

                                {

                                    IF AG10

                                    {

                                        PRINT "HALT.".

                                        UNTIL NOT AG10

                                        {

                                            WAIT 1.

                                        }

                                        PRINT "RESUME.".

                                    }

                                    SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                                }

                            }

                        }

                    }

                    LOCK THROTTLE TO 0.

                    SET SHIP: CONTROL: PILOTMAINTHROTTLE TO 0.

                    PRINT "DEORBIT BURN COMPLETE.  STANDBY TO ENGINE DROP & ATMO REENTRY.".

                    SET STEERVAR TO HEADING(0, 90).

                    WAIT 4.

                    STAGE.

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3").

                }

                ELSE

                {

                    CREATE("1:/NVPARAMS/STAGING/3").

                    //Turn on SAS

                    SAS ON.

                    PRINT "EXECUTION DONE, SHUTTING DOWN".

                    AG1 OFF.

                    SHUTDOWN.

                }

            }

            UNTIL ALT: RADAR < 1750

            {

                IF AG10

                {

                    PRINT "HALT.".

                    UNTIL NOT AG10

                    {

                        WAIT 1.

                    }

                    PRINT "RESUME.".

                }

                IF SHIP: ALTITUDE >= 70000

                {

                    WAIT 1.

                }

                IF SHIP: ALTITUDE < 70000

                {

                    IF PGR = 1

                    {

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFPROGRADE.

                    }

                    ELSE

                    {

                        SET STEERVAR TO SRFRETROGRADE.

                    }

                }

            }

            //Turn on SAS

            SAS ON.

            PRINT "EXECUTION DONE, SHUTTING DOWN".

            AG1 OFF.

            SHUTDOWN.

        }

    }
In practice it works, I just used it minutes ago:

View attachment 317163


Buzzwords are also essential to the muskrat and its followers, but no, this is certainly not AI even in the buzzword sense. It's friggin if-then programs of the most basic level.
Imagine how much sooner they could've released KSP if they weren't wasting time writing yet another shitty scripting language.
 
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Imagine how much sooner they could've released KSP if they weren't wasting time writing yet another shitty scripting language.
This is KSP1, and it's a mod. Didn't have anything to do with the original (indie) devs, nor Take Two's new hot mess.

And automation is actually incredibly useful in KSP, but I agree it's not something the core game really needs vs the mess it's in right now (talking about KSP2).
 
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We need AI to solve tedious problems (usually very tough systems of equations) for the masses. It's those who live above AI that make life interesting.
 
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If the "general public" would stop being sheep and use more reasonable sense, we would have this and many other issues.
That's not possible, I'm afraid. You may be asking something way over their natural abilities/conditioning here.
 
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Oh my god, this is hilarious.

So most of you understand, an algorithm and SpaceX are completely lying. A control system taking in data, processing it, and outputting changes to systems is literally ancient. If you'd like to understand what SpaceX is saying about rockets go to a Mechanics 101 class in college for engineers and ask any professor about a control system. My nose is already bleeding from the math....but needless to say things are not intelligent...and things that are simply electronically processed are still things.


To my knowledge we have no AI. We have deep learning, based around large language models. We have systems that can approximate control by simple measure and alter I/O. We even have pseudo intelligence that is designed to take human responses into account and trick our brains into thinking that its real. None of this comes even close to the abilities of a human child to genuinely learn and adapt...and thus cannot be a true AI due to the restrictions of its ability to process so that it can pretend to be AI.


If the question is whether or not our world has been improved by AI....that'd be a no. As per 1984 rules, one of the first things people did once tech was fast enough to process human faces and reasonably accurately identify them was to create the Chinese registry of faces used to oppress their people...and western tech helped because it was profitable. While our current technology is great and potentially amazing, it's also being run by humans. Maybe someday AI will be real, and it can make a better world. For now, it's just a tool and like many others it's much easier to use incorrectly than benevolently. Much more profitably too.
 
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True, and those are examples of "AI" done right and properly.
I mean if we're calling things like the if-then scripts most autopilots are AI it really looses all meaning...

...not that it already hasn't, but lets not make it worse.

EDIT: I'm glad you find this funny thesmokingman, but the fact is you can download scripts that do EXACTLY what you are looking at to a tee, freely online. Hell, I even wrote one and showed you it, and I'm bad at this.
 
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Boiled way down AI can be argued is just if/then with loops. With modern iterations of AI using ML and other techniques being basically a constantly evolving if/then script where every loop the "if" gets adjusted with new data in an effort to achieve the then in the best way possible.

Obviously NN/ML/AI are much more complicated than that, but in a boiled down explanation there's nothing wrong with explaining it this way.
 
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Boiled way down AI can be argued is just if/then with loops. With modern iterations of AI using ML and other techniques being basically a constantly evolving if/then script where every loop the "if" gets adjusted with new data in an effort to achieve the then in the best way possible.

Obviously NN/ML/AI are much more complicated than that, but in a boiled down explanation there's nothing wrong with explaining it this way.
That's the thing though. AI in this discussion can learn by adding "weights" to it's logic. These are generally experiences that taught it "don't do that again" or something similar.

Something like an autopilot is completely not that, because if it tries to "learn" on you, you are dead.
 

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autopilot is completely not that, because if it tries to "learn" on you, you are dead
I'd've thought that an autopilot learning from every pilot in the air would be able to train quickly.

Good way to ensure survival in case of pilot incapacitation. Or highjacking.
 
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I'd've thought that an autopilot learning from every pilot in the air would be able to train quickly.

Good way to ensure survival in case of pilot incapacitation. Or highjacking.
The thing is it needs mistakes too. Low tolerance for error environments like that are a training nightmare.

It's certainly possible but totally not worth it.
 
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It didn't like to get hurt ? :laugh:
That's how AI works. It's brain is essentially a giant spreadsheet of "this worked, this was bad"
 

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That's how AI works. It's brain is essentially a giant spreadsheet of "this worked, this was bad"
That, very importantly, writes itself. Otherwise, it is a mere algorithm.
 
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That, very importantly, writes itself. Otherwise, it is a mere algorithm.
It just boosts variables when something good happens, depletes others when it gets a non ideal result. The code can then make decisions based on the data.

It doesn't really literally recompile and rebuild itself to my knowledge.
 
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It just boosts variables when something good happens, depletes others when it gets a non ideal result. The code can then make decisions based on the data.

It doesn't really literally recompile and rebuild itself to my knowledge.
Serious;y? There are many different types of AI. Tesla's FSD v12 has like 30 lines of code. There are no heuristics, it isn't told to do shit. It learns by being fed video. SpaceX uses machine learning to teach the boosters how to land. It's not heuristics. :rolleyes:
 
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