Shall I upgrade from Office 2010?

[Octopuss]

We use Office 2010 at home. Just Word and Excel, no macros, scripts and whatever nonsense elaborate features.
Is there anything to newer versions that might be important? Like I don't know, performance, compatibility or whatever? The stuff I have is 32bit only too.
Stupid Excel seems to randomly not open links that are perfectly fine when manually pasted into the browser, so I thought maybe the program was too old today, so I started looking into newer versions, but then ran into this click and run or whater shite Microshitoft apparently came up with over the years that prevents you from only installing the components you want, so I'm not even sure I want to bother...
Opinions?

 

[P4-630]

Have you seen this thread:

Graphical glitch in Word and Outlook (Office 365)

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[Splinterdog]

We have a family sub to Office 365 (up to 5 members I think) for about £8 per month across devices. You get the entire Office suite and 100GB of storage on OneDrive.
As far as I know, none of us have experienced a single problem with any of the programs and my wife, being an accountant, lives and breaths spreadsheets.
I can't recommend it highly enough.

 

[Octopuss]

Ok, but I don't need the full suite and I hate subscriptions. And I hate Microsoft spying on me even more.
I should have specified I was looking for a standalone licence that cost a few cents (=can't be arsed if it cannot be bought with a few clicks or cost exorbitant amounts considering my needs), which is why I briefly looked at 2016.

 

[P4-630]

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[TheinsanegamerN]

It's not worth it. If you have any compatibility issues, move over to libre office, open office, or another alternative. Especially if you dont use macros, there is 0 reason to pay for it. Especially with 2021's new menus, they royally suck, they're big, clunky, and slow compared to 2010. 2010 was peak office IMO.

We have a family sub to Office 365 (up to 5 members I think) for about £8 per month across devices. You get the entire Office suite and 100GB of storage on OneDrive.
As far as I know, none of us have experienced a single problem with any of the programs and my wife, being an accountant, lives and breaths spreadsheets.
I can't recommend it highly enough.

8 pound a month? That's ridiculous. You could have bought 3-4 full licenses in a single year for that price. At $116 a year, with full licenses regularly going on sale for $30-40 and multi licenses going for $30 a pop, I'd think an accountant would see that continuous money drain and have questions.

 

[Octopuss]

Or try this:

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Genuine, sure. That's laughable.
I understand the sites (Guru3D does the same thing) have to pay server bills from somewhere, but flat out promoting illegal shit is too much even for me.

 

[P4-630]

or can be pirated (=can't be arsed if it cannot be bought with a few clicks or cost exorbitant amounts considering my needs)

About pirating cannot be discussed on TPU...

 

[Splinterdog]

It's not worth it. If you have any compatibility issues, move over to libre office, open office, or another alternative. Especially if you dont use macros, there is 0 reason to pay for it. Especially with 2021's new menus, they royally suck, they're big, clunky, and slow compared to 2010. 2010 was peak office IMO.

8 pound a month? That's ridiculous. You could have bought 3-4 full licenses in a single year for that price. At $116 a year, with full licenses regularly going on sale for $30-40 and multi licenses going for $30 a pop, I'd think an accountant would see that continuous money drain and have questions.

I disagree with you on the pricing.
As I already stated, our sub is up to six people (I previously said five) and in fact the storage is 1TB (it was early in the morning when I posted) not 100GB.
At £80 per year that works out at about £1 per month for each person in the family group, so as an accountant, my wife, who doesn't have to pay a penny of that, is well chuffed.
Do the maths and see how happy we are with the deal.

 

[Frick]

Genuine, sure. That's laughable.
I understand the sites (Guru3D does the same thing) have to pay server bills from somewhere, but flat out promoting illegal shit is too much even for me.

"Illegal".

If you really dislike MS, go Libreoffice. Which is shite.

 

[Mindweaver]

I liked 2013 better than 2010. Now my company uses 365 business premium. I have to say that the browser office is really good. Plus, the latest version of office has added Python.

 

[AleXXX666]

Well, I have something to say about my experience with MS, Open and Libre offices.
1. First things first, the 2010 is s*ckest office after 2003 era end. Why? Because it could hang up right on document opening. The sh*tty "click and run" technology provided 99% less bugs than this nonsense.
2. Comparison of 2010 vs 2013/2016/2019/2021: a little different design. Later, the design of 2013/2016/2019/2021 was the SAME, except in 2013 they used CAPS LOCK for menu headers, later they abandoned this for Traditional Menu Namings.
3. Comparison of LATEST (and greatest) Libre Office vs MS Office: now, in 2022-2023 I can finally say that Libre Office is very much doable free alternative to Sh*tOffice 365 Pay-Or-Die edition, or pay crazy $200+ (if purchased legally) for Normal Office 2021. For simple home tasks if you are not into Excel 80 LVL PRO Accounting, you will get the job done. I have tried it for studying.
4. About your crying of sh*tty "click and run": in 2013 and 2016, you still CAN CHOOSE what to install. 2019-2021 installers are crazy-OS-sized and install all useless for most people cr*p.

So, try the 2013 and 2016, good luck.

I liked 2013 better than 2010. Now my company uses 365 business premium. I have to say that the browser office is really good. Plus, the latest version of office has added Python.

For businesses, 365 rocks. I have tried my University 365 sub, it's also good for co-working. But for real sake, no people need to pay forever for the 365, they could just pay 2021 license (200+) in same way - monthly until full payment done... lol

 

[Octopuss]

You're not correct about the click and run unfortunately. Wiki says it's already "mandatory" starting with 2013, only the volume licence editions (and only some of them) having the normal installer

 

[Shihab]

We use Office 2010 at home. Just Word and Excel, no macros, scripts and whatever nonsense elaborate features.

Sounds to me like a good candidate for Libreoffice migration (although I'm not sure if you can pick which applications to install from the suite).
Or, if you're into fancy UI and minimal-functionality: Google Docs?

 

[Octopuss]

Google is PURE cancer. We have recently started using Sheets for some to do lists we both share and I just want to kill myself anytime I have to touch it.

Libreoffice is crap, last time I tried was in 2010 and I only remember it was an imcompatible piece of shit. Wife can't use it at the very least, she needs 100% compatibility with Office for work stuff.

 

[Bill_Bright]

A few years ago, I asked myself the same question. Then EOL support for Office 2010 ended so I upgraded to Office Home and Business 2016 - with no regrets. I go with the Business version because it includes Outlook - a must for me as that is where I keep all my contacts and appointments, birthdays, etc. I have been using Outlook for that since before there was "Office" and they (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and Outlook) were all sold individually. Outlook 97 was the first for me.

I will not go with Office 365. I do not trust the cloud for anything. I do not fear they will lose my files. It is more likely there will soon be 100s of copies of them floating around. My fear is my personal files and information will be compromised by a hacker - like what just happened with 23andMe or with Equifax a few years ago. So I too go for the stand-alone version of Office.

Now we are approaching the same crossroads. EOL mainstream support for Office 2016 ended in 2020 and extended support ends Oct 2025. Office 2021 will (according to Microsoft) be the last Office offered in a stand-alone version. So do I upgrade? I probably will.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

We have a family sub to Office 365 (up to 5 members I think) for about £8 per month across devices. You get the entire Office suite and 100GB of storage on OneDrive.
As far as I know, none of us have experienced a single problem with any of the programs and my wife, being an accountant, lives and breaths spreadsheets.
I can't recommend it highly enough.

Why would you pay for a personal subscription for O365? Just get O2021 or O2019

Office 2021 will (according to Microsoft) be the last Office offered in a stand-alone version. So do I upgrade? I probably will.

Looks like that will end up being my last official office product from microsoft before I go back to using Open Office. I do not see myself needing or wanting to upgrade to a personal O365 suite.

Google is PURE cancer. We have recently started using Sheets for some to do lists we both share and I just want to kill myself anytime I have to touch it.

Can you elaborate?

 

[Octopuss]

It's SLOW, it doesn't work even REMOTELY like Excel, even extremely basic functionality like copy/paste mostly doesn't work, and it just makes no sense.

 

[Splinterdog]

Why would you pay for a personal subscription for O365? Just get O2021 or O2019

My brother pays for it

 

[Shihab]

Libreoffice is crap, last time I tried was in 2010 and I only remember it was an imcompatible piece of shit. Wife can't use it at the very least, she needs 100% compatibility with Office for work stuff.

2010 was 13 years ago mate.
Compatibility is still hit and miss (partially/mostly Microsoft's fault, to name who is truly incompatible). But it's not as bad it was in 2010, and 100% compat is a weird requirement, if you're not using advanced features.

But, if you're not willing to do the testing, which I suppose would be a cost in itself, just grab a license to a newer version. Suffering a few extra applications (which share a lot of code with the ones you need anyway) is a lesser evil than sticking to an unsupported software (that is a somewhat common malicious attack vector).

 

[AleXXX666]

You're not correct about the click and run unfortunately. Wiki says it's already "mandatory" starting with 2013, only the volume licence editions (and only some of them) having the normal installer

lmfao, I kept in mind VL ISOs of that old Office, OF COURSE.....

Google is PURE cancer. We have recently started using Sheets for some to do lists we both share and I just want to kill myself anytime I have to touch it.

Libreoffice is crap, last time I tried was in 2010 and I only remember it was an imcompatible piece of shit. Wife can't use it at the very least, she needs 100% compatibility with Office for work stuff.

libre MAYBE will ~probably~ struggle with special stuff like .xlsB format... latest version works perfectly with any .xls/.xlsx formats, I've tried and I told it already....

 

[Octopuss]

Or try this:

GoDeal24 Halloween Sale Rolls On: Great Prices on Genuine Software

GoDeal24 celebrates Halloween with some spooky low prices on Genuine Software, so you can prep your next-generation gaming desktop for the Winter gaming season. Get genuine Office 2021 Professional Plus at $26.75 and free yourself from annual 365 subscription payments. Office 2021 Home and...

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ROFLMAO, my initial post gets edited by a moderator to remove "pirating reference", but this shit P4 pointed me to perfectly fine.
Seriously @W1zzard, how can you do this? This is a dead serious question. Why do you promote illegal stuff on the website? You DO know these keys are not legal...

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

I will not go with Office 365. I do not trust the cloud for anything. I do not fear they will lose my files. It is more likely there will soon be 100s of copies of them floating around. My fear is my personal files and information will be compromised by a hacker - like what just happened with 23andMe or with Equifax a few years ago. So I too go for the stand-alone version of Office.

Or that one time a Windows Update ruined the Onedrive from people (files gone). I dont know exactly when it was, but it was in the Windows 10 period. 2/3 years ago?

 

[wolar]

If you aren't a poweruser then you should take a look at the open source options, they came a long way (tried libreoffice).

 

[AUTOEXEC.BAT]

I use Libreoffice, and that is for my use goo enough. And since i'm against MS crap, this is the only good choice.

I only use MSDOS, Win3.11 till Win7 for Retro computers. They are not online anymore (offline gaming)