Intel Core i9-14900K

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Why do I need to do that when TechPowerUp have the answer already?

TPUP is running xmp out of the box. Im not. I don't care about of the box performance cause im not running that. A tuned 7800x 3d is on par with a 12900k tuned and is nowhere near a 14900k.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
TPUP is running xmp out of the box. Im not. I don't care about of the box performance cause im not running that. A tuned 7800x 3d is on par with a 12900k tuned and is nowhere near a 14900k.

Bad for you then.

I will go after what TechPowerUp is showing here as the reviews we are talking about is from this web page.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Bad for you then.

I will go after what TechPowerUp is showing here as the reviews we are talking about is from this web page.

Yeah, its too bad for me that I have the fastest gaming CPU, ill cry myself to sleep.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Yeah, its too bad for me that I have the fastest gaming CPU, ill cry myself to sleep.

Again, are you blind?

The picture I just posted over says you are lying where the 7800X3D is still the fastest (stock) CPU out there, for A LOT cheaper money over the 14900K.

You don't have the fastest gaming CPU when reviews shows that it's not true.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Again, are you blind?

The picture I just posted over says you are lying where the 7800X3D is still the fastest (stock) CPU out there, for A LOT cheaper money over the 14900K.

You don't have the fastest gaming CPU when reviews shows that it's not true.

Unless you show me a 7800x 3d beating my 12900k (not even the 14900k) you are ignored, not going to argue anymore. Show me the video or move on

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Unless you show me a 7800x 3d beating my 12900k (not even the 14900k) you are ignored, not going to argue anymore. Show me the video or move on

The picture over shows that the 12900K doesn't even stand a chance against the top leader that is the 7800X3D in gaming.

I don't care how you have optimized your CPU for this and that. I go after what the reviews are saying. You are not a reliable source for this alone.

Arco · Nov 1, 2023

What? You don't trust native TPU reviews at all? Nor any other review site? Instead, you want some random video from some random guy. I call bull.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Arco said:
What? You don't trust native TPU reviews at all? Nor any other review site? Instead, you want some random video from some random guy. I call bull.

Never said that. TPUP is running stock XMP. AMD wins out of the box, but since im not running out of the box that's kinda irrelevant to me.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Never said that. TPUP is running stock XMP. AMD wins out of the box, but since im not running out of the box that's kinda irrelevant to me.

I don't run my 'Ryzen 7 7700' CPU at stock speeds either. But I'm never using my numbers to show how good the CPU are in different things from that. I use TPU for that from what numbers they get from their tests.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
I don't run my 'Ryzen 7 7700' CPU at stock speeds either. But I'm never using my numbers to show how good the CPU are in different things from that. I use TPU for that from what numbers they get from their tests.

Yeah whatever, if anyone wanna test it they know where to find me

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Yeah whatever, if anyone wanna test it they know where to find me

I'm pretty sure there are a million other sources out there that most will look to before looking to a random dude on a forum.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
I'm pretty sure there are a million other sources out there that most will look to before looking to a random dude on a forum.

And no one with the best gaming CPU can beat this old outdated 2 gen old CPU running stock clocks... :roll:

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
And no one with the best gaming CPU can beat this

Again, what your overclocked stats shows is of no interest to most peoples when tests after tests shows that at stock speeds, the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU, PERIOD. Exactly in the same way as reviews shows that a 14900K is the best productivity CPU out there.

Because if you don't want to accept that the 7800X3D is a better gaming CPU than the 14900K, even when reviews shows it, what makes you think that me and others will accept that the 14900K is the best productivity CPU out there then, even when reviews shows it?

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Again, what your overclocked stats shows is of no interest to most peoples when tests after tests shows that at stock speeds, the 7800X3D is the best gaming CPU, PERIOD. Exactly in the same way as reviews shows that a 14900K is the best productivity CPU out there.

You are asking me, not most people. Im telling you why I'm buying Intel instead of the so claimed "best gaming CPU". Because it's not when you are tuning, and since im tuning, why would I buy the CPU that's slower? If I was running stock out of the box, sure, maybe I would have a 7800x 3d, but since I don't do that, out of the box is irrelevant to me. Going from a 12900k to a 7800x 3d would be a huge downgrade in both games and MT performance so I went for the 14900k instead.

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Because if you don't want to accept that the 7800X3D is a better gaming CPU than the 14900K, even when reviews shows it, what makes you think that me and others will accept that the 14900K is the best productivity CPU out there then, even when reviews shows it?

You don't need to accept anything, im just posting a video of what a tuned 12900k can do. I've seen tuned 7800x 3d and they are on par with that, but nowhere near a tuned 14900k.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
You are asking me, not most people. Im telling you why I'm buying Intel instead of the so claimed "best gaming CPU". Because it's not when you are tuning, and since im tuning, why would I buy the CPU that's slower? If I was running stock out of the box, sure, maybe I would have a 7800x 3d, but since I don't do that, out of the box is irrelevant to me. Going from a 12900k to a 7800x 3d would be a huge downgrade in both games and MT performance so I went for the 14900k instead.

Well, you have to be some kind of a smartass if you don't buy the best gaming CPU if you are a real gamer. You don't buy a 14900K just to sit there and surf the internet and watch YouTube with it. You buy the CPU for what you are going to use the computer for.

Heck, even my Samsung smartphone with 'DeX' on my computer display does the normal / casual tasks like surfing the web, listening to music, watching videos and so on as good as any other normal computers does those tasks with a normal desktop CPU and desktop GPU.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Well, you have to be some kind of a smartass if you don't buy the best gaming CPU if you are a real gamer.

Exactly, that's why I bought the best gaming CPU, the 14900k

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Exactly, that's why I bought the best gaming CPU, the 14900k

Except it's not the best gaming CPU, as proven over directly from TPU. But how does it feel to have wasted 592 dollar for a CPU that does gaming barely as good as a 369 dollar gaming CPU?

That must be a bargain.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Except it's not the best gaming CPU, as proven over directly from TPU. But how does it feel to have wasted 592 dollar for a CPU that does gaming barely as good as a 369 dollar gaming CPU?

That must be a bargain.

Of course it is, the 369$ cpu is slower than my 2 gen old 12900k. :roll:

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Of course it is, the 369$ cpu is slower than my 2 gen old 12900k.

As shown in the picture I posted earlier that is from TPU, the 12900K is NOT faster than a 7800X3D. Not even the 14900K is faster here.

Why do you ignore the review and the results from that?

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Why do you ignore the review and the results from that?

I've already answered that. Cause the review is running stock and XMP.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
I've already answered that. Cause the review is running stock and XMP.

Like every reviews does. Why should we care about what score you get?

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Like every reviews does. Why should we care about what score you get?

Because you are asking me why i didnt buy the best gaming CPU. Im telling you I did, when running tuned the 14900k is the best gaming CPU. It feels like you keep repeating the same stuff...

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Because you are asking me why i didnt buy the best gaming CPU. Im telling you I did, when running tuned the 14900k is the best gaming CPU. It feels like you keep repeating the same stuff...

Yeah, when someone is using a computer mainly for gaming, those would ofc buy the best gaming CPU that is the 7800X3D in the same way as someone who uses their computer for CPU heavy productivity programs / tasks would buy a 14900K CPU.

Why do you have issues accepting that the 7800X3D is just a better gaming CPU than the 14900K, when reviews after review proves that?

EDIT: Just because i can modify a Toyota Yaris to go 250 MPH, doesn't mean it's actually faster than a Nissan GT-R R35 in the real world.

JustBenching · Nov 1, 2023

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
Yeah, when someone is using a computer mainly for gaming, those would ofc buy the best gaming CPU

Exactly, that's why I bought the 14900k. This feels like dejavu...

Dronekongen Fra Ålesund said:
EDIT: Just because i can modify a Toyota Yaris to go 250 MPH, doesn't mean it's actually faster than a Nissan GT-R R35 in the real world.

If you can't modify the gtr R35 to go over 250mph then yes, that means the toyota yaris is faster, lol.

The Norwegian Drone Pilot · Nov 1, 2023

fevgatos said:
Exactly, that's why I bought the 14900k. This feels like dejavu...

You bought the 14900K, yeah, congrats for spending a lot more money over what you actually could have spent to get 1% better performance in gaming.

Why should I spend 592 dollars on an Intel CPU when I can spend 369 dollars on an AMD CPU and get a tiny bit better gaming performance?

System Name	Mean machine
Processor	12900k
Motherboard	MSI Unify X
Cooling	Noctua U12A
Memory	7600c34
Video Card(s)	4090 Gamerock oc
Storage	980 pro 2tb
Display(s)	Samsung crg90
Case	Fractal Torent
Audio Device(s)	Hifiman Arya / a30 - d30 pro stack
Power Supply	Be quiet dark power pro 1200
Mouse	Viper ultimate
Keyboard	Blackwidow 65%

System Name	Dark Matter / Mørk Materie (In Norwegian)
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700 (CPU Core Ratio: 'AI Enhanced' & OC: 'Curve Optimizer' @ -40 & 'PBO2' @ +200 MHz)
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi (AMD Socket AM5) (Mini-ITX)
Cooling	CPU: EK Waterblocks EK-Nucleus AIO CR240 Lux (D-RGB) & Thermal Grizzly AM5 Contact & Sealing Frame
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Black DDR5 6000 MHz (PC5-48000) 2x16GB (AMD EXPO) (CL36 tuned to CL30 @ 1.4v)
Video Card(s)	ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB V2 OC Edition (Overclocked +175 MHz Core @ +940 Mhz Memory)
Storage	1x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB & 1x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB (Both M.2 SSD)
Display(s)	Dell S3220DGF (1800R Curved, VA Panel & 165 Hz Refresh Rate)
Case	Phanteks Evolv Shift XT D-RGB (Black) (Modular)
Audio Device(s)	ASUS ROG SupremeFX (Realtek ALC4080 Codec & Savitech SV3H712 Amplifier) (On Motherboard)
Power Supply	Corsair SF600 Platinum (600w) (Modular) (SFX)
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 3S (Graphite)
Keyboard	Logitech MX Keys Mini (Nordic) (Grey)
Software	Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-bit) (Norwegian)
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23: 20.130 (Multi Core) (Single Cycle Run).

System Name	Mean machine
Processor	12900k
Motherboard	MSI Unify X
Cooling	Noctua U12A
Memory	7600c34
Video Card(s)	4090 Gamerock oc
Storage	980 pro 2tb
Display(s)	Samsung crg90
Case	Fractal Torent
Audio Device(s)	Hifiman Arya / a30 - d30 pro stack
Power Supply	Be quiet dark power pro 1200
Mouse	Viper ultimate
Keyboard	Blackwidow 65%

System Name	Dark Matter / Mørk Materie (In Norwegian)
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7700 (CPU Core Ratio: 'AI Enhanced' & OC: 'Curve Optimizer' @ -40 & 'PBO2' @ +200 MHz)
Motherboard	ASUS ROG Strix B650E-I Gaming WiFi (AMD Socket AM5) (Mini-ITX)
Cooling	CPU: EK Waterblocks EK-Nucleus AIO CR240 Lux (D-RGB) & Thermal Grizzly AM5 Contact & Sealing Frame
Memory	Corsair Vengeance RGB Black DDR5 6000 MHz (PC5-48000) 2x16GB (AMD EXPO) (CL36 tuned to CL30 @ 1.4v)
Video Card(s)	ASUS TUF Gaming GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8GB V2 OC Edition (Overclocked +175 MHz Core @ +940 Mhz Memory)
Storage	1x Samsung 990 Pro 2TB & 1x Samsung 990 Pro 4TB (Both M.2 SSD)
Display(s)	Dell S3220DGF (1800R Curved, VA Panel & 165 Hz Refresh Rate)
Case	Phanteks Evolv Shift XT D-RGB (Black) (Modular)
Audio Device(s)	ASUS ROG SupremeFX (Realtek ALC4080 Codec & Savitech SV3H712 Amplifier) (On Motherboard)
Power Supply	Corsair SF600 Platinum (600w) (Modular) (SFX)
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 3S (Graphite)
Keyboard	Logitech MX Keys Mini (Nordic) (Grey)
Software	Microsoft Windows 11 Home (64-bit) (Norwegian)
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23: 20.130 (Multi Core) (Single Cycle Run).

System Name	Mean machine
Processor	12900k
Motherboard	MSI Unify X
Cooling	Noctua U12A
Memory	7600c34
Video Card(s)	4090 Gamerock oc
Storage	980 pro 2tb
Display(s)	Samsung crg90
Case	Fractal Torent
Audio Device(s)	Hifiman Arya / a30 - d30 pro stack
Power Supply	Be quiet dark power pro 1200
Mouse	Viper ultimate
Keyboard	Blackwidow 65%

System Name	Firestarter
Processor	7950X
Motherboard	X670E Steel Legend
Cooling	LF 2 420
Memory	4x16 G.Skill X5 6000@CL36
Video Card(s)	RTX Gigabutt 4090 Gaming OC
Storage	SSDS: OS: 2TB P41 Plat, 4TB SN850X, 1TB SN770. Raid 5 HDDS: 4x4TB WD Red Nas 2.0 HDDs, 1TB ext HDD.
Display(s)	42C3PUA, some dinky TN 10.1 inch display.
Case	Fractal Torrent
Audio Device(s)	PC38X
Power Supply	GF3 TT Premium 850W
Mouse	Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard	Steel Series Apex Pro
VR HMD	Pimax Crystal with Index controllers