• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

ASRock Arc A580 Challenger

Joined
Sep 27, 2008
Messages
1,137 (0.20/day)
I still haven't seen anywhere selling any Arc A580s in Canada yet...
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Confirmed. I'm realizing I didn't mark it as "reference" in my data, because lack of a reference card, so it didn't get included in those charts.

Any opinion which 7700 XT model is a good replacement for "reference" ?
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,153 (1.48/day)
Location
Bulgaria
Confirmed. I'm realizing I didn't mark it as "reference" in my data, because lack of a reference card, so it didn't get included in those charts.

Any opinion which 7700 XT model is a good replacement for "reference" ?
No matter with same frequencies?
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
No matter with same frequencies?
That's part of the problem. All models available are overclocked. Sapphire Pulse is stock clocks but lower power limit. In this case it feels like a "slightly OC'd" card is a good representation of what to expect?
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,153 (1.48/day)
Location
Bulgaria
That's part of the problem. All models available are overclocked. Sapphire Pulse is stock clocks but lower power limit. In this case it feels like a "slightly OC'd" card is a good representation of what to expect?
If there is data on what AMD understands as base frequency values, I guess for any branded model, such a profile can be set. Naturally at base frequencies, models with better cooling would show lower temperatures in the measured areas. Cooling can also be adjusted by lowering the fan speeds and thus bringing the temperature closer to what would be achieved in a reference model. As you noted, it is hardly significant in the results for models with small OC. Anyone can easily calculate the difference by subtracting the corresponding percentage of FPS or points from the synthetic tests from the result of the OC model.
Edit: Change misleads: Intel to AMD
 
Last edited:

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,153 (1.48/day)
Location
Bulgaria
This cannot be done on NVIDIA or AMD due to their boosting behavior
NOTE! Performance Tuning is not supported on APU Graphics (graphics integrated on a CPU) or AMD Graphics that are preinstalled in OEM systems.
This? Perhaps then it would be necessary to ask the specific OEM partner whose model You got or use Afterburner?
 

INSTG8R

Vanguard Beta Tester
Joined
Nov 26, 2004
Messages
8,009 (1.11/day)
Location
Canuck in Norway
System Name Hellbox 5.1(same case new guts)
Processor Ryzen 7 5800X3D
Motherboard MSI X570S MAG Torpedo Max
Cooling TT Kandalf L.C.S.(Water/Air)EK Velocity CPU Block/Noctua EK Quantum DDC Pump/Res
Memory 2x16GB Gskill Trident Neo Z 3600 CL16
Video Card(s) Powercolor Hellhound 7900XTX
Storage 970 Evo Plus 500GB 2xSamsung 850 Evo 500GB RAID 0 1TB WD Blue Corsair MP600 Core 2TB
Display(s) Alienware QD-OLED 34” 3440x1440 144hz 10Bit VESA HDR 400
Case TT Kandalf L.C.S.
Audio Device(s) Soundblaster ZX/Logitech Z906 5.1
Power Supply Seasonic TX~’850 Platinum
Mouse G502 Hero
Keyboard G19s
VR HMD Oculus Quest 3
Software Win 11 Pro x64
A lot of motherboards don't expose those settings
Mine does in a recent BIOS update last one before the new AGESA what I wonder is can my new 7900XTX use it …I pull like 150+ W from the wall at idle anything to lower it would be great.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
This? Perhaps then it would be necessary to ask the specific OEM partner whose model You got or use Afterburner?
This part of the discussion is for the 7700 XT, not for the tested Intel card
 
Joined
Sep 1, 2020
Messages
2,153 (1.48/day)
Location
Bulgaria
This part of the discussion is for the 7700 XT, not for the tested Intel card
My quote is from the AMD website. Indeed, in a previous comment I had mistakenly written Intel instead of AMD. I have no idea why, but I apologize in case anyone is grossly misled.
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
My quote is from the AMD website. Indeed, in a previous comment I had mistakenly written Intel instead of AMD. I have no idea why, but I apologize in case anyone is grossly misled.
I still don't get how the quote applies here? 7700 XT is not an APU and not an OEM card?
 

W1zzard

Administrator
Staff member
Joined
May 14, 2004
Messages
27,453 (3.71/day)
Processor Ryzen 7 5700X
Memory 48 GB
Video Card(s) RTX 4080
Storage 2x HDD RAID 1, 3x M.2 NVMe
Display(s) 30" 2560x1600 + 19" 1280x1024
Software Windows 10 64-bit
I'm trying to figure out why this can't^
On AMD: you have two sliders, min and max. If you set Min MHz = X and Max MHz = Y, you will get Z MHz that varies wildly by no apparent mechanic. There is no way to set a specific single frequency, and the actual reference product runs with a completely different dynamic clocking behavior
On NVIDIA: you can set a fixed frequency offset, i.e. -100 MHz, but that affects both base and boost clocks, which isn't how the reference product works
 
Top