AMD Phoenix AM5 APUs to Get Ryzen 8000 Series Branding, Company Readies 5000GT Series for AM4

[Falcon13]

too little too late AMD now we will have mega APU from intel and you keep your stupid console monopoly forever.

 

[Tek-Check]

It looks like 8000G will be excellent desktop APUs in different systems.
I can even imagine first socketed mini-PCs with ITX boards.

too little too late AMD now we will have mega APU from intel and you keep your stupid console monopoly forever.

What kind of nonsense is this?

Maybe I should get a decent B650 while they are on sale. I expect them to announce new MBs for this lineup as well. Probably in the B650 range but even A620 boards will become a lot more popular if AMD actually does what is reported. As the driver on AMD is unified these APUs should age quite well indeed.

Imagine mini-PC with ITX socketed board and 8700G! Perfect solution in small form factor. I'd buy one.
All eyes on Minisforum to get one out.

I hope to see real fps numbers when the cpu's get reviewed because if they only "shine" in 1080p it will be a couple of generations before hopefully they can do 1440p with the same settings.

It will be similar to Phoenix, a tad more as faster memory is used. Nobody expects 1440p performance from desktop APU at this moment apart from some more simple games, but 1080p/60 is fine in many, many titles.

I think they will just push the iGPU to the limit and sell it as a new product.

It is a new product.

 

[Denver]

It is a new product.

They are all chips already known and in commercial circulation, but I referred to the "GT" APUs, they just are old 5600g/5700g chips with OC.

 

[mechtech]

Had a little giggle when I seen CSGO - DX9

 

[kapone32]

too little too late AMD now we will have mega APU from intel and you keep your stupid console monopoly forever.

That sounds like the commercials that claim you can Game on a Chromebook and show Plague's Tail Gameplay.

 

[Tek-Check]

I just had to buy a laptop and I discarded AMD simply because no website will let you search for 7x40. There aren't too many SKUs to choose from anyway, lumping them all together may help AMD sell to the non-informed customers, but will do little else. Wth is wrong with using one prefix for one architecture?

You need to know where to search. Here is a list of Zen4 laptops. There's plenty.

AMD Ryzen Phoenix, Hawk Point, Strix Point, Strix Halo series Laptop List

docs.google.com

That would be smart and easy, not something AMD is known for when it comes to naming.

New naming scheme is actually logical and more specific. Once you finally learn it, it is smart and easy to navigate through.

Yeah, totally agree. The ordinary consumer will surely think an 8xxx is better than a 7xxx? It's just smoke and mirrors.

Ordinary consumer has mouth and brain to ask questions and communicate if he/she wants to find out more. Many people are not interested in silicon. They just want things to work, such as browser, Office and media player. Both 7xxx and 8xxx will deliver exactly that. It's on them to decide.

Exactly. It would be somewhat undestandable, if the CPU was Ze4+, or iGPU was RDNA3.5/4/ But it's exacly the same old chip, that mobile has for a year already. Not only that it's very late to the party. But also their greedy marketing makes AMD huge disservice. They have great product, but they twist and mess its naming to the point, that many would stop bother altogether and will simply avoid.

I don't think "many" would stop and avoid. There is no evidence of such vague idea. In last 5 years, Intel has lost ~11% of laptop market and ~8% in desktop (Mercury research)
Naming was a topic last year and evebody who is interested could have learnt it by now.
8xxxG is the right number as it relates to calendar year, exactly how the new scheme works.

This is silly, that people need a decoder for naming scheme, in order to know if that is not "sh*t in bag", they are buying.

Go and decode names of models of TVs and monitors. Good luck to you!

But the thing is, they went even with Zen 3 (5xxx) Ryzen series, for both desktop and mobile. So they can, if they want.

They did, but current market is different. All multiple generations of CPUs are actually really good, they all sell in different tiers, segments and regions globally.

The first number should be the µacrhitecture generation, as it more or less was aligned for previous six gens of Ryzen.

This does not fit well with architecture cadence cycle and different products series, such as no 4000 and no 6000 CPUs for desktop.
Current naming is logical and alligned with calendar year in the first place.

All the mobile naming schemes from AMD, Intel, and Nvidia are god awful and misleading. It doesn't really matter which brand you buy, they all perpetuate it.

Try names of TV and monitor models. Good luck!

 

[R-T-B]

Ordinary consumer has mouth and brain to ask questions and communicate if he/she wants to find out more.

#doubt. Ordinary consumer is in fact, a human potato.

 

[Tek-Check]

Here's hoping that an AM4 5900X3D and 5950X3D are announced too. Just let AM4 go out with an encore performance.

Will not happen.

#doubt. Ordinary consumer is in fact, a human potato.

They don't even need to ask. Most CPU models will actually do everything that average potato really needs, so why bother with names?

 

[R-T-B]

They don't even need to ask. Most CPU models will actually do everything that average potato really needs, so why bother with names?

This is true. It's also part of why intel managed to sell everything "core" related for many many years.

 

[bug]

All the mobile naming schemes from AMD, Intel, and Nvidia are god awful and misleading. It doesn't really matter which brand you buy, they all perpetuate it.

Idk, Intel's naming of the CPUs makes sense. Sure, they went from 5 digits to 4, but that's mostly getting rid of superfluous zero.
And also, this is AMD looking to bring the confusing naming scheme to the desktop as well.

You need to know where to search. Here is a list of Zen4 laptops. There's plenty.

AMD Ryzen Phoenix, Hawk Point, Strix Point, Strix Halo series Laptop List

docs.google.com

Yeah, look up random spreadsheet on the Internet, copy each and every model into each and every store, see if they have stock. Like I initially said, I gave that a hard pass. Didn't need a powerful IGP, so really, nothing lost in the process.

 

[Wirko]

They don't even need to ask. Most CPU models will actually do everything that average potato really needs, so why bother with names?

Because, after seeing how slow the laptop is, the potato will put the blame on the 7330U instead of poor cooling and small, non-expandable RAM?

 

[AusWolf]

You think that they will release The 8000G before the "classic" 8000 ?

I would suspect there's no "classic" 8000 series. Zen 5 will most probably get the 9000 series name.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

New naming scheme is actually logical and more specific. Once you finally learn it, it is smart and easy to navigate through.

You are not wrong but the average user really doesnt care if there is a naming scheme let alone wants to learn it. They'd rather depend on the sales person.

 

[LabRat 891]

Sticking with the AM4 platform, and AMD is planning to release several new processor models for the older platform, including the Ryzen 7 5700X3D and 5500X3D that feature the 3D Vertical Cache technology that benefits gaming performance; and a handful new APUs, namely the 5700GT and 5600GT. At this point, it's not known what the "T" brand extension signifies in AMD nomenclature. Intel uses "T" to denote energy-efficient SKUs, but AMD uses "E" for that job.

AMD is expected to announce the new Socket AM5 and AM4 processors on January 31, the article says.

Long Live AM4!
Also, I'm extremely pleased to see AMD following through on their implications and promises of more AM4 X3D chips.

 

[ratirt]

I'm thinking, some day x3d will be omitted and all chips will have stacked cache. The difference will be in the amount of it on each CPU.
I'm looking forward to the new APU's. I would want to buy one but I'm not sure for what exactly. Maybe I'll just focus on the mobile.

 

[Squared]

I'm looking forward to the new APU's. I would want to buy one but I'm not sure for what exactly.

LOL, tech enthusiast problem. We want to buy tech for no other reason than we read about it and want to try it out ourselves.

 

[ratirt]

LOL, tech enthusiast problem. We want to buy tech for no other reason than we read about it and want to try it out ourselves.

I dont have a problem. I'm thinking if I find a use for it since I'm sorted or will it make things better than whatever I currently use.

 

[Kyan]

I would suspect there's no "classic" 8000 series. Zen 5 will most probably get the 9000 series name.

I'm scared that it could be true but, as kapone32 said, I've check in the cpu database and in fact, R7 5700G where launch before R7 5700X and R7 5700

 

[Tek-Check]

You are not wrong but the average user really doesnt care if there is a naming scheme let alone wants to learn it. They'd rather depend on the sales person.

Exactly, so what's the fuss about naming scheme?

 

[Melvis]

Nice! but gosh wouldnt it be nice to have these GT CPU's actually a Updated APU for AM4, Id buy a updated APU for AM4 in a heart beat for my iTX Machines. (Keep dreaming I know)

 

[Wirko]

I just had to buy a laptop and I discarded AMD simply because no website will let you search for 7x40.

The Geizhals database might be helpful (less helpful if you aren't in EU but still). Here are Zen 4 notebooks, you can further filter them by any parameter you can think of:

Notebooks mit Architektur AMD: Zen 4 (ab 2022) Preisvergleich Geizhals EU

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Notebooks mit Architektur AMD: Zen 4 (ab 2022)

geizhals.eu

(The English version, skinflint.co.uk, is less useful because it only shows hardware available in the UK)

 

[bug]

The Geizhals database might be helpful (less helpful if you aren't in EU but still). Here are Zen 4 notebooks, you can further filter them by any parameter you can think of:

Notebooks mit Architektur AMD: Zen 4 (ab 2022) Preisvergleich Geizhals EU

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Notebooks mit Architektur AMD: Zen 4 (ab 2022)

geizhals.eu

(The English version, skinflint.co.uk, is less useful because it only shows hardware available in the UK)

I wasn't looking for suggestions about how to find an AMD laptop. I know how to find one. I just said it's more trouble than it's worth. At least to me.

People organizing physical stores know that product placement sells. If AMD can't be bothered to properly place their stuff in online stores, I won't bother to do the legwork for them.

 

[Tek-Check]

If AMD can't be bothered to properly place their stuff in online stores, I won't bother to do the legwork for them.

AMD doesn't babysit online retailers. Silly.

If you know exactly what you are looking for, you will find it. I wrote a few emails to Asus support to find out more details about Rembrandt laptop. They answered and I bought it last year.

 

[bug]

AMD doesn't babysit online retailers. Silly.

I never said they should. All I expect them to do is to use a sane naming scheme.
I mean, what's next? Instead of numbers, use a QR code, because it's easy to tell the architecture by looking at the dots 3-7 on the 7th row?

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Exactly, so what's the fuss about naming scheme?

Obviously you missed something.