Intel Core i5-14600K

[AnotherReader]

Expecting big performance increases year on year is a very high expectation and perhaps not even realistic, for me its simply that they shouldnt have released this gen. There is no need to release a CPU so often.

I am glad meteor lake was delayed, as being selfish my CPU stays relevant for longer, hoping AMD's next gen is disappointing or also delayed.

I agree. The 13900KS was the fastest CPU for most use cases for a desktop. Nvidia doesn't release a new generation every year. Intel should have just announced price cuts for the 13th generation and that would have been received better. There's one saving grace for this launch; Intel didn't use this as an opportunity to increase prices. In fact, they decreased prices across the board.

 

[Gica]

Of course this is TPU so we don't represent the average user but a friend called me on Tuesday and asked what he should do to upgrade his 2700x and settled on the 5800X3D. Does Intel have anything like that? That is like taking a 10700 system and replacing it with a 12700 but you can't do that on Intel can you?

To trade 5800X3D (1 CCD) for 7900X3D (2CCD, entire platform + RAM) for 4K gaming is a big deal. Or a big waste?
For gaming? What's wrong with 5800X3D?
For applications? 13700K sweeps the floor with your processor and costs almost $200 less.

You claimed that you owned so many AMD processors that half of what was produced reached you. From the pearl with 5800X3D turning the 6500XT into a beast to the stutters with the processors in possession (aaa 5600X, aaa 5900X... contradictions in posts with the difference of days), zero screenshots to prove that you have something... a lot of salt for everything you say you have.
The discussion was about the longevity of the platform, a great reason for pride for you, but you also say that you changed at least 5 processors from Zen1.
LOL!!!!

PS. 13500 is fighting with 7700 and 7700X. Both are much more expensive.

P.P.S. 14700KF. The order was placed before I answered your replies. Tomorrow I pick up the product.
Why? Because that's what I wanted.
All the best!

 

[kapone32]

To trade 5800X3D (1 CCD) for 7900X3D (2CCD, entire platform + RAM) for 4K gaming is a big deal. Or a big waste?
For gaming? What's wrong with 5800X3D?
For applications? 13700K sweeps the floor with your processor and costs almost $200 less.

You claimed that you owned so many AMD processors that half of what was produced reached you. From the pearl with 5800X3D turning the 6500XT into a beast to the stutters with the processors in possession (aaa 5600X, aaa 5900X... contradictions in posts with the difference of days), zero screenshots to prove that you have something... a lot of salt for everything you say you have.
The discussion was about the longevity of the platform, a great reason for pride for you, but you also say that you changed at least 5 processors from Zen1.
LOL!!!!

PS. 13500 is fighting with 7700 and 7700X. Both are much more expensive.

P.P.S. 14700KF. The order was placed before I answered your replies. Tomorrow I pick up the product.
Why? Because that's what I wanted.
All the best!
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I am a Gamer

 

[bug]

What does my reaction to Zen+ have anything to do with Intel's lackluster 14th generation? I wasn't even on the board at that time, but even though it didn't move the needle much, it still improved upon its predecessor more than the 14900K improved upon the 13900KS. Even Intel has done better in the past. The 4790K was a bigger upgrade over the 4770K than this rebranding. I'll make this easy for you by dropping the requirement to beat the 13900KS convincingly; name one benchmark where the 14900K improves upon the 13900K by 13% which is the improvement from the 4770K to the 4790K in Cinbench R15.

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It's not all about pure performance. There's the reduced power draw. Which, for example, let 14900k break the 9GHz barrier. Something 13900KS couldn't.

It's a refresh, always announced as such. Ignore it if you don't need, but hate on a minor speed bump, a minor TDP reduction and a number on the box?

 

[AnotherReader]

It's not all about pure performance. There's the reduced power draw. Which, for example, let 14900k break the 9GHz barrier. Something 13900KS couldn't.

It's a refresh, always announced as such. Ignore it if you don't need, but hate on a minor speed bump, a minor TDP reduction and a number on the box?

I don't hate Intel. I'm currently typing this from a laptop whose CPU is from the Tiger Lake generation. The 13900K hit 9 Ghz too. Manufacturing improvements, if any, are miniscule. They are certainly not on the level of the transition from Tiger Lake to Alder Lake or Alder Lake to Raptor Lake. Now that's a proper generational change. I've given the example of "Haswell Refresh". Despite being named a refresh, it was more significant than this.

Addendum: The one saving grace is the lower prices.

 

[Gica]

I am a Gamer

You stutter again. You were saying something like 4K, not 1080p.
What is the next step? 7800X3D? According to reviews, this is the most powerful processor in gaming. It's even cheaper.

Seriously speaking, if you really had these processors, you wouldn't bury yourself so much in ridicule. I honestly believe that you still stayed with that 6500XT and post here configurations that you dream about at night.

Of course you have the right to reply, but the reply must be a firm proof that you have what you say in the TPU Sys Specs.

 

[kapone32]

You stutter again. You were saying something like 4K, not 1080p.
What is the next step? 7800X3D? According to reviews, this is the most powerful processor in gaming. It's even cheaper.

Seriously speaking, if you really had these processors, you wouldn't bury yourself so much in ridicule. I honestly believe that you still stayed with that 6500XT and post here configurations that you dream about at night.

Of course you have the right to reply, but the reply must be a firm proof that you have what you say in the TPU Sys Specs.

Yes that is right I am running a 6500XT with a 7900X3D......You don't seem to understand that a person can own more than 1 GPU. It's not like 6500Xts were ever expensive anyway.

 

[Gica]

The problem with you is that you are a troll who gets lost in lies. You are above our politicians. It's a great performance, believe me. And they affirm something today and contradict themselves the next day.

You are an AMD supporter, you troll the Intel and nVidia topics, but the shortcomings are clear even with regard to AMD products. To say that you changed 5800X3D (released in April 2022) with 7900X3D (released in February 2023, 10 months difference) because... "I'm a gamer" sounds like hell when TPU states that between 7950X3D and 5800X3D there is a difference of only 6 fps in 4K. Only 3.7% in tested games!
Since you don't have an RTX 4090 and the 7950X3D is slightly faster than the 7900X3D, it turns out that, in less than a year, you upgraded CPU+MoBo+RAM for only ~2% performance increase in 4K gaming.
LOL. You are the best!

Edit: Don't try with Low. The reason: one CCD versus two CCDs

 

[TITAN RTX 4100]

Who cares about the difference between the 5800X3D and the 7900X3D? And do you have to have a 4090? No! A 6500XT is pretty low end and not good for 4k gaming, but no one needs a 4090 unless you're playing Cities Skylines 2.

 

[kapone32]

The problem with you is that you are a troll who gets lost in lies. You are above our politicians. It's a great performance, believe me. And they affirm something today and contradict themselves the next day.

You are an AMD supporter, you troll the Intel and nVidia topics, but the shortcomings are clear even with regard to AMD products. To say that you changed 5800X3D (released in April 2022) with 7900X3D (released in February 2023, 10 months difference) because... "I'm a gamer" sounds like hell when TPU states that between 7950X3D and 5800X3D there is a difference of only 6 fps in 4K. Only 3.7% in tested games!
Since you don't have an RTX 4090 and the 7950X3D is slightly faster than the 7900X3D, it turns out that, in less than a year, you upgraded CPU+MoBo+RAM for only ~2% performance increase in 4K gaming.
LOL. You are the best!

Edit: Don't try with Low. The reason: one CCD versus two CCDs

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Where is the 7900X3D in that chart? You are right I don't have a 4090 but that is not what my specs say. You are also the one telling me that I am using a 6500XT. So yes I had a 5800X3D based system. I even bought a MSI X570S Ace Max to run it. Yes when the 7900X3D launched I bought one. That is because I had a 5950X before the 5800X3D and missed the snap and guess what? The 7900X3D has that snap. Is there an issue because I can do that? Now for some facts since I am a politician.

The 7900X3D pushes about 2-4 GB/s more to my GPU (It is in the Specs) vs the 5800X3D in all Games, which allows for higher refresh 4K Gaming. My issue with you is that you always wax on about how weak AMD is, so if you scour Youtube you will see that Kitguru and others actually have reviewed the 7900X3D (It was not sampled) and love the fact that it is just as fast as any CPU but sips power in comparison. If I was like you and forming my pre conceived ideas around what I think I probably would not have gotten a 7900X3D but it was $300 less than the 7950X3D so economic sanity ensued.

There are two reasons that I would not get a 14th Gen based system and that is the way M2 lanes are shared with GPU lanes on the highest platform. It is not even like you can build a RAID array using those and the power draw is double my AM5 system in what I like to use my PC for. Please tell me I am lying.

Yes I am a Gamer and realize that if the PS5 and Xbox are making Games on AM4 and RDNA based systems that as time goes on and they optimize for those platforms it will be a benefit to use the hardware that is in that same ecosystem. That is my version of a great Gaming PC but that is what PC means PERSONAL. As long as you enjoy it that is all that matters. Matchbox vs Hot Wheels is so old now.

 

[Gica]

Who cares about the difference between the 5800X3D and the 7900X3D? And do you have to have a 4090? No! A 6500XT is pretty low end and not good for 4k gaming, but no one needs a 4090 unless you're playing Cities Skylines 2.

kapone 32. He claims that he changed the 5800X3D to the 7900X3D (which involves the change including the MoBo and RAM for a substantial amount of money) because "I am a Gamer". 4K player, to be exact. For +2% performance boost with the most powerful video card of mankind, and more precisely
The same kapone 32 that praises the longevity of a socket that only very few have benefited from, the ultimate argument used by many in trolling Intel topics.
According to his words, the 5800X3D replaced a 5900X (it has not yet been decided because about two days ago he changed the 5600X to the 5800X3D in another topic) and that this change increased the performance of the 6500XT by 30%.
If I don't take his statements with a grain of salt (I question his purchases as well because he never proved that he has what he claims), I come to the conclusion that only with the purchase of an AMD product will you see the wonders of the world and you will receive the 72 Miss Universe virgins.

Yes, few have 4090 and that's why discussions about consumption and performance differences between processors are just trolling by AMD supporters and that's all.
According to them, you are an idiot if you buy Intel or nVidia.

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Intel Core i7-14700K

How come temperatures are higher than the 14900k? is this an error? Tweakers had a different result: For cooling using Alphacool Core Ocean T38 AIO. A 15 minutes Cinebench R23 multithreaded loop. Max Temperature: Max package power: I know, it was cooled by AIO but still, the i7 was here...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[kapone32]

kapone 32. He claims that he changed the 5800X3D to the 7900X3D (which involves the change including the MoBo and RAM for a substantial amount of money) because "I am a Gamer". 4K player, to be exact. For +2% performance boost with the most powerful video card of mankind, and more precisely
The same kapone 32 that praises the longevity of a socket that only very few have benefited from, the ultimate argument used by many in trolling Intel topics.
According to his words, the 5800X3D replaced a 5900X (it has not yet been decided because about two days ago he changed the 5600X to the 5800X3D in another topic) and that this change increased the performance of the 6500XT by 30%.
If I don't take his statements with a grain of salt (I question his purchases as well because he never proved that he has what he claims), I come to the conclusion that only with the purchase of an AMD product will you see the wonders of the world and you will receive the 72 Miss Universe virgins.

Yes, few have 4090 and that's why discussions about consumption and performance differences between processors are just trolling by AMD supporters and that's all.
According to them, you are an idiot if you buy Intel or nVidia.

...

Intel Core i7-14700K

How come temperatures are higher than the 14900k? is this an error? Tweakers had a different result: For cooling using Alphacool Core Ocean T38 AIO. A 15 minutes Cinebench R23 multithreaded loop. Max Temperature: Max package power: I know, it was cooled by AIO but still, the i7 was here...

www.techpowerup.com

That is right I have never posted pictures of my purchases. I cannot talk about hardware as I don't own any of it and am not Gaming using a 7900XT. I have never posted about that either. I have never said anything about the 7900X3D until your post and I have not built over 40 AMD systems since 2017. I don't have a 43" FV43U that I have never talked about and I have never said that the 10400F was a great CPU. I have never said that during the bad times that the 3060 laptop was the most economical way to get into Gaming. There is also the opinion that the 7900 cards are not different than NVidia so using and AMD CPU makes no difference in any Game.

"The same kapone 32 that praises the longevity of a socket that only very few have benefited from, the ultimate argument used by many in trolling Intel topics."

If you think that AM4 was not enjoyable that is your problem. The 1700x was good for what it was the 2600X was good too. the 1900X was good and so was the 2920X. The 3300X was great. The 5900X was smooth as butter and the 5950X is snappy. Now I have a CPU that runs at 5.7 Ghz and the other runs at at 5.1 GHZ
with Vcache and sips power to do it. As far as I can tell that sums up my experience. But I suppose doubling cores, IPC and transistors does not count anymore.


I can tell you this though. What I do with MY money is MY business. I could care less if you don't think Vcache could help at 1080P and if you think a 5600X is as fast as a 5800X3D say it again with your opinion vs my experience. I bet you don't even know what makes the 6500XT viable in a modern living room driver.


Now since this thread is about the 14600K I am going to speak on that. It is a good CPU and Intel CPUs are plenty fast but no one can deny that they use more power.

 

[Gica]

That is right I have never posted pictures of my purchases. I cannot talk about hardware as I don't own any of it and am not Gaming using a 7900XT. I have never posted about that either. I have never said anything about the 7900X3D until your post and I have not built over 40 AMD systems since 2017. I don't have a 43" FV43U that I have never talked about and I have never said that the 10400F was a great CPU. I have never said that during the bad times that the 3060 laptop was the most economical way to get into Gaming. There is also the opinion that the 7900 cards are not different than NVidia so using and AMD CPU makes no difference in any Game.

"The same kapone 32 that praises the longevity of a socket that only very few have benefited from, the ultimate argument used by many in trolling Intel topics."

If you think that AM4 was not enjoyable that is your problem. The 1700x was good for what it was the 2600X was good too. the 1900X was good and so was the 2920X. The 3300X was great. The 5900X was smooth as butter and the 5950X is snappy. Now I have a CPU that runs at 5.7 Ghz and the other runs at at 5.1 GHZ
with Vcache and sips power to do it. As far as I can tell that sums up my experience. But I suppose doubling cores, IPC and transistors does not count anymore.


I can tell you this though. What I do with MY money is MY business. I could care less if you don't think Vcache could help at 1080P and if you think a 5600X is as fast as a 5800X3D say it again with your opinion vs my experience. I bet you don't even know what makes the 6500XT viable in a modern living room driver.


Now since this thread is about the 14600K I am going to speak on that. It is a good CPU and Intel CPUs are plenty fast but no one can deny that they use more power.

First of all, put your ideas in order. I have not heard of 1900X and 1920X for AM4 and 7900X3D reaches a maximum of 5.6 GHz. Rarely. When it meets with AVX or SSE, it plays in 5GHz even with load on one or two cores. Based on the TPU review, even the 7950X3D does not reach the speed you claim your processor achieves.
At Intel it is as written in the book, just control the temperature.
14700K:
1-2 cores: 5.6 GHz
3-8 cores: 5.5 GHz
As can be seen in the captures, "frozen" in 5.5 GHz under stress with SSE or AVX.
Based on actual consumption, there is a whole discussion in which I am tired of participating. All the children fill their computers with LEDs and then shout on the Intel threads that the planet is being destroyed. From case to case and from application to application, the myth of higher consumption can be confirmed or... disproved. Do not forget that an Intel parks its consumption at ~1W in idle.
You can ask W1zzard if when testing with Blender he also used the project editing or if he only recorded the peak reached during rendering. Editing eats up a lot of your time, not rendering, and the processor is not at 100% while you are editing.

 

[kapone32]

First of all, put your ideas in order. I have not heard of 1900X and 1920X for AM4 and 7900X3D reaches a maximum of 5.6 GHz. Rarely. When it meets with AVX or SSE, it plays in 5GHz even with load on one or two cores. Based on the TPU review, even the 7950X3D does not reach the speed you claim your processor achieves.
At Intel it is as written in the book, just control the temperature.
14700K:
1-2 cores: 5.6 GHz
3-8 cores: 5.5 GHz
As can be seen in the captures, "frozen" in 5.5 GHz under stress with SSE or AVX.
Based on actual consumption, there is a whole discussion in which I am tired of participating. All the children fill their computers with LEDs and then shout on the Intel threads that the planet is being destroyed. From case to case and from application to application, the myth of higher consumption can be confirmed or... disproved. Do not forget that an Intel parks its consumption at ~1W in idle.
You can ask W1zzard if when testing with Blender he also used the project editing or if he only recorded the peak reached during rendering. Editing eats up a lot of your time, not rendering, and the processor is not at 100% while you are editing.

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What exactly are you trying to establish?

 

[Gica]

What exactly are you trying to establish?

That it does not reach 5.7 GHz, as you say.
That it cannot work even at 5.6 GHz in light tasks (make a demonstration with Cinebench R23 single-core).
That it reaches 5.6 GHz just as an Intel reaches 6 GHz (except for the 13900KS and 14900K) with "Instant 6 GHz enabled", on a maximum of two cores, for a short time, under minimum load.
I stop here.

Let's talk about consumption in games. Below you have a video (the capture is continuous, not edited) in which the first test is with the default processor and the second with... I chanted an incantation from The Popes's Exorcist and the consumption was reduced by half, the video card obtaining the same score.
Pure magic!

 

[kapone32]

That it does not reach 5.7 GHz, as you say.
That it cannot work even at 5.6 GHz in light tasks (make a demonstration with Cinebench R23 single-core).
That it reaches 5.6 GHz just as an Intel reaches 6 GHz (except for the 13900KS and 14900K) with "Instant 6 GHz enabled", on a maximum of two cores, for a short time, under minimum load.
I stop here.

Let's talk about consumption in games. Below you have a video (the capture is continuous, not edited) in which the first test is with the default processor and the second with... I chanted an incantation from The Popes's Exorcist and the consumption was reduced by half, the video card obtaining the same score.
Pure magic!

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I am glad you are happy with your purchase. You are trying to tell me that you have a better processor and the truth is that it is more nuanced than you would like to believe. Clock speed is only one side of the equation. It doesn't matter though you are the one who is attacking me with this and I honestly could care less. Do you know why? No matter what you say it does not diminish my appreciation for the PC I have. You can think all you want but the MB I have supports 5 PCIe 5.0 M2s and I can RAID 0 them all if I wanted to, show me any Intel board that can do that. Then you have to think that Vcache CPUs are objectively the best for a PC Gamer that treats their library like an Arcade (I have Humble Choice). Whether you want to believe it or not the 7900XT is fine for 4K high refresh raw raster and the 7900X3D is plenty fast to drive it and Humble is a great vehicle for the platform.

BTW the way my MB is wired means that I don't have to worry about Future and can plop in a 8000X3D or 9000X3D with a BIOS update. Who knows AMD may even release an APU with Vcache that works with my GPU but please stop attacking me for my position just because you don't agree with it.

I know that you think you have me but the 280 Watt power limit is more than double what mine is and I did not need to turn anything down on my CPU to enjoy it.

 

[cmguigamf]

Thinking of doing a final upgrade for my LGA1700 (DDR4) board, and swapping out 12400f for this 14600k (don't see a point with xx700 or xx900 for my workload, which is mostly gaming and encoding). My AK400 probably won't suffice, but a AK620 should be good to go, right?

 

[Gica]

I am glad you are happy with your purchase. You are trying to tell me that you have a better processor and the truth is that it is more nuanced than you would like to believe. Clock speed is only one side of the equation. It doesn't matter though you are the one who is attacking me with this and I honestly could care less. Do you know why? No matter what you say it does not diminish my appreciation for the PC I have. You can think all you want but the MB I have supports 5 PCIe 5.0 M2s and I can RAID 0 them all if I wanted to, show me any Intel board that can do that. Then you have to think that Vcache CPUs are objectively the best for a PC Gamer that treats their library like an Arcade (I have Humble Choice). Whether you want to believe it or not the 7900XT is fine for 4K high refresh raw raster and the 7900X3D is plenty fast to drive it and Humble is a great vehicle for the platform.

BTW the way my MB is wired means that I don't have to worry about Future and can plop in a 8000X3D or 9000X3D with a BIOS update. Who knows AMD may even release an APU with Vcache that works with my GPU but please stop attacking me for my position just because you don't agree with it.

I know that you think you have me but the 280 Watt power limit is more than double what mine is and I did not need to turn anything down on my CPU to enjoy it.

And I'm sad when you come and troll on Intel and nVidia topics. I cannot know what you are missing. You have to be happy that Intel also has good processors, otherwise AMD will ask you (again!) $300+ for a Ryzen 5.

I challenged you to prove that you are in possession of what you say you have and you always dodged. It's strange to say that you don't have time for captures (or recordings) while you waste a lot of time only here, on the forum. With trolling. That capture could be downloaded from anywhere.
Why don't you stay on AMD topics and from there worship the idol because it offers energy efficient and very expensive processors????

P.S. Success with RAID 0 to SSD. You were probably not born when its uselessness was demonstrated.

PPS. Unfortunately, the 7900X3D is missing from the TPU review, but it is weaker than the 7950X3D. How are you a "4K player"... a picture is worth 1000 words.
Here it is!

 

[kapone32]

And I'm sad when you come and troll on Intel and nVidia topics. I cannot know what you are missing. You have to be happy that Intel also has good processors, otherwise AMD will ask you (again!) $300+ for a Ryzen 5.

I challenged you to prove that you are in possession of what you say you have and you always dodged. It's strange to say that you don't have time for captures (or recordings) while you waste a lot of time only here, on the forum. With trolling. That capture could be downloaded from anywhere.
Why don't you stay on AMD topics and from there worship the idol because it offers energy efficient and very expensive processors????

P.S. Success with RAID 0 to SSD. You were probably not born when its uselessness was demonstrated.

PPS. Unfortunately, the 7900X3D is missing from the TPU review, but it is weaker than the 7950X3D. How are you a "4K player"... a picture is worth 1000 words.
Here it is!

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I have posted plenty of pics and shown my purchases. It is not my problem if you don't believe me. You can put all the Graphs you want but it does not take away from the fact that there is no sample of the 7900X3D in them. However the 5800X3D is no where as fast as the 7900X3D as the 7900X is faster than the 5800X3D and it looks like 162 FPS for that. You say I troll on Nvidia/Intel forums but only to respond to hyperbolic comments on how weak AMD is and how bad they are vs offerings from the rivals. The thing is you wax on without context other than Day 1 graphs without realizing that the graph you list would make it impossible to blindly pic what CPU is running.


PS: RAID 0 is useless until you have 100+ free Games on Epic and reset your PC. Even on the Epic site they recommend to have more than 1 drive and use that to copy the Game files to another drive to not have to re-download all 100+ Games With RAID 0 SSD you will see up to 1000 mb/s and RAID 0 on NVME reaches the 2.9 GB/s limit that is on Windows for copying files. There is also the fact that Direct Storage is in Games now and Forspoken loads fastest on my Frankenstein WD AN1500 so you can go on with your HDD thought on RAID 0.

As far as it being weaker, perhaps but when you are getting over 100+ FPS on a 144hz Freeesync 4K monitor does it matter if another CPU is 10% faster? That would be 110-115 FPS vs 100 and means that regardless of what you say or think my PC is enjoyable to me. Especially since my screen is a 43" monster that has serious picture quality. You can like Intel all you want just don't get in a huff when people tell the truth.

1. Intel uses more power than AMD to acheive the same task
2. Even Z790 is not as flexible as X670E
3. X670E will support 8000 and 9000 series CPUs 14th is last Gen for Z790.

 

[rcarlos243]

Very disappointed with TPU.

It is a well-known fact that Zen 4 is very sensitive to RAM timings and the performance could be up to 19% slower, but then proceed to use a DDR5 6000 CL36

For older platforms that use DDR4, memory rank is also very important for performance and there is no mention if the test setup is using single or dual rank dimm.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Very disappointed with TPU.

Whining about it will do nothing if you don't explain what your complaint is...

It is a well-known fact that Zen 4 is very sensitive to RAM timings and the performance could be up to 19% slower, but then proceed to use a DDR5 6000 CL36


For older platforms that use DDR4, memory rank is also very important for performance and there is no mention if the test setup is using single or dual rank dimm.

...and no, this doesn't qualify.

Care to elaborate better?

 

[rcarlos243]

Whining about it will do nothing if you don't explain what your complaint is...

...and no, this doesn't qualify.

Care to elaborate better?

When comparing the performance of products, it should use adequate parts that do not hinder performance.


The review used a slow DDR5 RAM (DDR5 6000 CL36 instead of DDR5 6000 CL30) that hinders significant performance for Zen4 CPUs.

It was also not disclosed if the RAM used was single-rank or dual-rank on older platforms which also has significant performance implications.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/7vy2zs

 

[lexluthermiester]

When comparing the performance of products, it should use adequate parts that do not hinder performance.

Wow..

(DDR5 6000 CL36 instead of DDR5 6000 CL30)

Are you kidding with that? The difference between CL30 and CL36 @6000mhz on AM5 is MINIMAL at best. That complaint is completely meritless.

It was also not disclosed if the RAM used was single-rank or dual-rank on older platforms which also has significant performance implications.

This is meritless nonsense as well. The differences in performance between single rank vs dual rank is less than 3%, which is mostly margin of error. Quad rank can be troublesome for performance(differences of up to 6% VS single rank), which is why it's rarely used in consumer systems.

 

[Gica]

Using DDR5@6000, the TPU favored Ryzen. Normally it should be tested at 5200 AMD versus 5600 at Intel. Beyond these frequencies - maximum recommended by manufacturers (up to...) - it is called overclocking and endangers the processor's warranty. I say it favored ryzen because Intel supports much more than 6000. In fact, it easily supports 8000 as well.
If we keep complaining that the broomstick was stolen from the jewelry store.

 

[kapone32]

Using DDR5@6000, the TPU favored Ryzen. Normally it should be tested at 5200 AMD versus 5600 at Intel. Beyond these frequencies, maximum recommended by manufacturers (up to...), it is called overclocking and endangers the processor's warranty. I say it favored ryzen because Intel supports much more than 6000. In fact, it easily supports 8000 as well.
If we keep complaining that the broomstick was stolen from the jewelry store.

Um I guess you don't know AGESA updates.