System Name | Work Computer | Unfinished Computer |
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Processor | Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi |
Cooling | A fan? | Truly Custom Loop |
Memory | 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26 |
Video Card(s) | Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE |
Storage | Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD |
Display(s) | 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD |
Case | Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400 |
Power Supply | Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W |
Mouse | Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD |
On that note, is there any information/confirmation that those are NOT in Ryzen products?What do Threadripper and Ryzen have in common? AMD. Think about it for a second.
System Name | BigRed |
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Processor | I7 12700k |
Motherboard | Asus Rog Strix z690-A WiFi D4 |
Cooling | Noctua D15S chromax black/MX6 |
Memory | TEAM GROUP 32GB DDR4 4000C16 B die |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio X 10GB |
Storage | M.2 drives WD SN850X 1TB 4x4 BOOT/WD SN850X 4TB 4x4 STEAM/USB3 4TB OTHER |
Display(s) | Dell s3422dwg 34" 3440x1440p 144hz ultrawide |
Case | Corsair 7000D |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha YSP-800 DSP soundbar/Bowers and Wilkins P7 Headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x 80% gold |
Mouse | Logitech G604 wireless |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 carbon |
Software | Windows 10 Pro X64 |
Benchmark Scores | Who cares |
Yeah, replacing the fuse is quite an easy task.Hi,
Likely just a quick sign so they don't have to dig deeper
Replace the fuse case over
Only question is will they charge for replacing the fuse or not.
System Name | White DJ in Detroit |
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Processor | Ryzen 5 5600 |
Motherboard | Asrock B450M-HDV |
Cooling | Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2 |
Memory | 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz |
Video Card(s) | XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319 |
Storage | Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB |
Display(s) | Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p |
Case | Fractal Design Define R4 |
Audio Device(s) | Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x v3 |
Mouse | Logitech G602 |
Keyboard | Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | Rimworld 4K ready! |
System Name | Work Computer | Unfinished Computer |
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Processor | Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi |
Cooling | A fan? | Truly Custom Loop |
Memory | 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26 |
Video Card(s) | Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE |
Storage | Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD |
Display(s) | 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD |
Case | Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400 |
Power Supply | Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W |
Mouse | Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD |
Further to this, where is the fuse located? CCD? IOD? SMD on the package? That could make a difference, for replaceability and whether it is in other CPUs that use the same CCD.On that note, is there any information/confirmation that those are NOT in Ryzen products?
System Name | Sleepy Painter |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
System Name | BigRed |
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Processor | I7 12700k |
Motherboard | Asus Rog Strix z690-A WiFi D4 |
Cooling | Noctua D15S chromax black/MX6 |
Memory | TEAM GROUP 32GB DDR4 4000C16 B die |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio X 10GB |
Storage | M.2 drives WD SN850X 1TB 4x4 BOOT/WD SN850X 4TB 4x4 STEAM/USB3 4TB OTHER |
Display(s) | Dell s3422dwg 34" 3440x1440p 144hz ultrawide |
Case | Corsair 7000D |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha YSP-800 DSP soundbar/Bowers and Wilkins P7 Headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x 80% gold |
Mouse | Logitech G604 wireless |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 carbon |
Software | Windows 10 Pro X64 |
Benchmark Scores | Who cares |
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 7950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
Welcome to the world of efuses.Hi,
You mean they can't just pop the hood damn lol
Processor | AMD 5900x |
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Motherboard | Asus x570 Strix-E |
Cooling | Hardware Labs |
Memory | G.Skill 4000c17 2x16gb |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3090 |
Storage | Sabrent |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 |
Case | Phanteks 719 |
Audio Device(s) | Fiio K5 Pro |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000 P2 |
Mouse | Logitech G600 |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 |
Processor | AMD 5900x |
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Motherboard | Asus x570 Strix-E |
Cooling | Hardware Labs |
Memory | G.Skill 4000c17 2x16gb |
Video Card(s) | RTX 3090 |
Storage | Sabrent |
Display(s) | Samsung G9 |
Case | Phanteks 719 |
Audio Device(s) | Fiio K5 Pro |
Power Supply | EVGA 1000 P2 |
Mouse | Logitech G600 |
Keyboard | Corsair K95 |
No it's necessary. Overclocking these chips is ridiculously hard and expensive and is kind of dumb given these are usually money producing machines. Overclocking these is counter to the high uptime and profits.Is overclocking a Threadripper CPU really necessary? I'm curious how many owners of these CPUs overclock them, especially given their price. For starters, overclocking these days brings very little benefit. The chips overclock themselves now and they can milk just about as much as they can out of the chip. And on top of all that, getting it stable considering all of the cores on a TR is really just a waste of time for little gain. But I'm not a prosumer and maybe it will save them many hours by squeegeeing out a couple more MHZ.
System Name | ab┃ob |
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Processor | 7800X3D┃5800X3D |
Motherboard | B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact |
Cooling | NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67 |
Memory | 64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000 |
Storage | 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550 |
Case | Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5 |
Further to this, where is the fuse located? CCD? IOD? SMD on the package? That could make a difference, for replaceability and whether it is in other CPUs that use the same CCD.
System Name | Work Computer | Unfinished Computer |
---|---|
Processor | Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi |
Cooling | A fan? | Truly Custom Loop |
Memory | 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26 |
Video Card(s) | Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE |
Storage | Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD |
Display(s) | 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD |
Case | Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400 |
Power Supply | Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W |
Mouse | Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD |
I have no idea what size they are; I know there are some SMD components on the package (hence the odd shape of the Ryzen 7000 IHS) but I do not know if they are resistors, capacitors, fuses, magic smoke containers, or nuclear reactors. If they are part of the die, then which die is it? The CCD is universal - used in Ryzen as well, and AFAIK the same BIOS warnings pop up about voiding warranty on standard consumer boards.I'm pretty sure these fuses are not nearly the size or form factor you're thinking ofthis isn't Slot 1
System Name | ab┃ob |
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Processor | 7800X3D┃5800X3D |
Motherboard | B650E PG-ITX┃X570 Impact |
Cooling | NH-U12A + T30┃AXP120-x67 |
Memory | 64GB 6400CL32┃32GB 3600CL14 |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4070 Ti Eagle┃RTX A2000 |
Storage | 8TB of SSDs┃1TB SN550 |
Case | Caselabs S3┃Lazer3D HT5 |
I have no idea what size they are; I know there are some SMD components on the package (hence the odd shape of the Ryzen 7000 IHS) but I do not know if they are resistors, capacitors, fuses, magic smoke containers, or nuclear reactors. If they are part of the die, then which die is it? The CCD is universal - used in Ryzen as well, and AFAIK the same BIOS warnings pop up about voiding warranty on standard consumer boards.
System Name | BigRed |
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Processor | I7 12700k |
Motherboard | Asus Rog Strix z690-A WiFi D4 |
Cooling | Noctua D15S chromax black/MX6 |
Memory | TEAM GROUP 32GB DDR4 4000C16 B die |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 3080 Gaming Trio X 10GB |
Storage | M.2 drives WD SN850X 1TB 4x4 BOOT/WD SN850X 4TB 4x4 STEAM/USB3 4TB OTHER |
Display(s) | Dell s3422dwg 34" 3440x1440p 144hz ultrawide |
Case | Corsair 7000D |
Audio Device(s) | Yamaha YSP-800 DSP soundbar/Bowers and Wilkins P7 Headphones |
Power Supply | Corsair RM850x 80% gold |
Mouse | Logitech G604 wireless |
Keyboard | Logitech G413 carbon |
Software | Windows 10 Pro X64 |
Benchmark Scores | Who cares |
System Name | msdos |
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Processor | 8086 |
Motherboard | mainboard |
Cooling | passive |
Memory | 640KB + 384KB extended |
Video Card(s) | EGA |
Storage | 5.25" |
Display(s) | 80x25 |
Case | plastic |
Audio Device(s) | modchip |
Power Supply | 45 watts |
Mouse | serial |
Keyboard | yes |
Software | disk commander |
Benchmark Scores | still running |
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
Well, yeah... Where would you put a user-replaceable fuse on a CPU?I reckon the actual fuses are on one of the dies and so tiny you'd need a microscope to see them.
Not meant for RMA, that's for sure. Hopefully it won't be abused, but human beings are know for doing that every chance they get.Probably nothing to do with RMAs. It's probably for the vendor to know whether to just toss the CPU in the trashcan, or have a look at why a non-oc'd CPU died.
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
System Name | Work Computer | Unfinished Computer |
---|---|
Processor | Core i7-6700 | Ryzen 5 5600X |
Motherboard | Dell Q170 | Gigabyte Aorus Elite Wi-Fi |
Cooling | A fan? | Truly Custom Loop |
Memory | 4x4GB Crucial 2133 C17 | 4x8GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3600 C26 |
Video Card(s) | Dell Radeon R7 450 | RTX 2080 Ti FE |
Storage | Crucial BX500 2TB | TBD |
Display(s) | 3x LG QHD 32" GSM5B96 | TBD |
Case | Dell | Heavily Modified Phanteks P400 |
Power Supply | Dell TFX Non-standard | EVGA BQ 650W |
Mouse | Monster No-Name $7 Gaming Mouse| TBD |
Well, I was more referring to well-equipped repair shops, which could replace an SMD component. Or a particularly skilled end user. But if it is part of the die, that would be entirely out of the question.You said "replaceability". I wouldn't count on any of it being accessible to the end user.
Oh, I see. I never really paid attention to those messages, I just assumed it was the same one.AM4/AM5 do not get the same kind of message. If you read the actual source article, Threadripper also gets the standard PBO message from AGESA that you are seeing, but this short one is a new addition and doesn't appear to be coming from the AGESA. If it's just inserted by the board vendor into their BIOS, then this whole bit of news is just a nothingburger, which is why the AMD rep responded in the way they did.
Processor | Intel i5-12600k |
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Motherboard | Asus H670 TUF |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 |
Memory | 2x16GB DDR4 3600 G.Skill Ripjaws V |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 SC |
Storage | 500GB Samsung 970 EVO, 500GB Samsung 850 EVO, 1TB Crucial MX300 and 2TB Crucial MX500 |
Display(s) | Dell U3219Q + HP ZR24w |
Case | Raijintek Thetis |
Audio Device(s) | Audioquest Dragonfly Red :D |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620W M12 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Proteus Core |
Keyboard | G.Skill KM780R |
Software | Arch Linux + Win10 |
They aren't even trying to know whether parameters were out of whack. They just need to know whether overclocking was enabled or not. Probably mostly for statistics, initially.How the hell does AMD know if parameters were out of whack during overclocking? Wouldn't you need more than just a fuse to store that kind of information, like extended overheats or overheat shutdown situations? This is AMD saying, "overclocking alone doesn't void warranty, but if it's the cause for breaking something, it does." Well, how does AMD confirm that overclocking was the culprit if that's the case? Sounds like a PR stunt to save face without rolling back the verbiage.
System Name | Apollo |
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Processor | Intel Core i9 9880H |
Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon Pro 5600M, 8GB HBM2 |
Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
Display(s) | Laptop @ 3072x1920 + 2x LG 5k Ultrafine TB3 displays |
Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
Audio Device(s) | AirPods Pro, Sennheiser HD 380s w/ FIIO Alpen 2, or Logitech 2.1 Speakers |
Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
Ehhhh, I think you're being too kind. I seriously doubt that they did this just to gather statistics. At best, it tells them to not even bother doing testing on an RMA'ed CPU where that bit has flipped. At worst it could deny you an RMA. If AMD was serious about it not impacting RMA, they'd remove all the verbiage regarding this, but they didn't. This feels like smoke and mirrors.They aren't even trying to know whether parameters were out of whack. They just need to know whether overclocking was enabled or not. Probably mostly for statistics, initially.
System Name | Sleepy Painter |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 |
Motherboard | Asus TuF Gaming X570-PLUS/WIFI |
Cooling | FSP Windale 6 - Passive |
Memory | 2x16GB F4-3600C16-16GVKC @ 16-19-21-36-58-1T |
Video Card(s) | MSI RX580 8GB |
Storage | 2x Samsung PM963 960GB nVME RAID0, Crucial BX500 1TB SATA, WD Blue 3D 2TB SATA |
Display(s) | Microboard 32" Curved 1080P 144hz VA w/ Freesync |
Case | NZXT Gamma Classic Black |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 |
Power Supply | Rosewill 1KW on 240V@60hz |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 Legend |
Keyboard | Red Dragon K552 |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise 2019 LTSC 1809 17763.1757 |
Correct.No it's necessary. Overclocking these chips is ridiculously hard and expensive and is kind of dumb given these are usually money producing machines. [snip]
AFAIK, there's 0 chance these are 'replace-/repair-able'You said "replaceability". I wouldn't count on any of it being accessible to the end user.
AM4/AM5 do not get the same kind of message.
If you read the actual source article, Threadripper also gets the standard PBO message from AGESA that you are seeing, but this short one is a new addition and doesn't appear to be coming from the AGESA.
As to the standard PBO message: if it is simply a message and doesn't make hardware changes, then there's no issue.
-^this^ has generally been my experience(s) with every company I've ever RMA'd with; most-recently, AMD for my early R5 5600 that lost cores (PBO'd).If it does make hardware changes, it still has always been ignored by AMD RMA and has never been an issue.
Just... 'stay vigilant'If it's just inserted by the board vendor into their BIOS, then this whole bit of news is just a nothingburger, which is why the AMD rep responded in the way they did.
Maybe so, but how can the user prove damage was or wasn't caused by overclocking/overvolting? You send in a defective CPU, AMD sees the blown fuse and claims it broke because of overclocking/overvolting. There's no way for the end user to argue.
And to be crystal clear, I'm not saying AMD plans to abuse that. I'm just saying that fuse opens the way for at least some distributors to go that route. At the same time, it's probably a useful tool in diagnosing, because users sending in defective parts are very unlikely to admit they overclocked before the damage happened.
Further to this, where is the fuse located? CCD? IOD? SMD on the package? That could make a difference, for replaceability and whether it is in other CPUs that use the same CCD.
I doubt very much replacing the fuse is in the realm of a normal person, unless you have access to very special equipment, and even then, is it actually replaceable @W1zzard