Crucial T700 Pro 4 TB

[W1zzard]

Crucial T700 Pro is the only PCI-Express Gen 5 SSD on the market with a 4 TB variant. Unlike some vendors who adopt fan-cooled solutions, Crucial has opted for a passive heatsink, which is why thermals are an important part of our review. We'll also look at power consumption and performance, too, of course.

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[Onasi]

However pointless of a product this is for a vast, vast majority of users, I have to give Crucial props for taming the Gen 5 controller without a fan or a heatsink that’s ridiculously massive. This at least looks like something a sane person might want to put in their system if they just want to have the “fastest everything” with price (or sensibility) being no object. They might even enjoy massive improvements to their PC experience, like a game loading 0.5 seconds faster. Snark aside, it MIGHT make some sense for someone who transfers a lot of stuff back and forth, but overall I still remain unconvinced of Gen 5 storage utility in non-enterprise scenarios.

 

[Rowsol]

That's a good price alright...

 

[Alan Smithee]

Crucial T700 Pro is the only PCI-Express Gen 5 SSD on the market with a 4 TB variant.

The MSI Spatium M570 Pro Frozr has a 4 TB variant. You personally tested the 2 TB version on December 19th. The 4 TB variant was noted both in your review and in the press release that TPU published on the same day.

 

[W1zzard]

The MSI Spatium M570 Pro Frozr has a 4 TB variant. You personally tested the 2 TB version on December 19th. The 4 TB variant was noted both in your review and in the press release that TPU published on the same day.

You are absolutely right, but as of this day the 4 TB MSI model isn't available anywhere

 

[Xebec]

How is the WD SN770 faster than the SN850 overall?

 

[gurusmi]

However pointless of a product this is for a vast, vast majority of users, I have to give Crucial props for taming the Gen 5 controller without a fan or a heatsink that’s ridiculously massive. This at least looks like something a sane person might want to put in their system if they just want to have the “fastest everything” with price (or sensibility) being no object. They might even enjoy massive improvements to their PC experience, like a game loading 0.5 seconds faster. Snark aside, it MIGHT make some sense for someone who transfers a lot of stuff back and forth, but overall I still remain unconvinced of Gen 5 storage utility in non-enterprise scenarios.

This post is embossed by a gamer's view. I just build up a new rig for me to work on. Also known as workstation. I plan tu get two PCIe 5.0x4 drives with 2TB each. I set'em up un a raid-0. So the transfer rate nearby doubles. I'm scanning and working on 3D models. The size of such a scan can be fastly 100GB and above. Also when slicing a model it can easily reach 500mb. Parts of this will be written a couple of times and also written. If one wants to wait minutes to get a slice saved one can take a slower drive, Also i don't need a cooling device. I bought 4 water coolers for my 4 M.2 SSDrives. 4TB at one drive is a bit too large as my system drive. I decided to go with 2* 4tb volumes.

 

[b1k3rdude]

Looking at page 6, the Rocket4 Plus Gaming has sustained write speeds of about 4100mb/s compared to the T700's 3300mb/s. The T700 does appear to have better random read/write speeds though.

 

[Onasi]

This post is embossed by a gamer's view. I just build up a new rig for me to work on. Also known as workstation. I plan tu get two PCIe 5.0x4 drives with 2TB each. I set'em up un a raid-0. So the transfer rate nearby doubles. I'm scanning and working on 3D models. The size of such a scan can be fastly 100GB and above. Also when slicing a model it can easily reach 500mb. Parts of this will be written a couple of times and also written. If one wants to wait minutes to get a slice saved one can take a slower drive, Also i don't need a cooling device. I bought 4 water coolers for my 4 M.2 SSDrives. 4TB at one drive is a bit too large as my system drive. I decided to go with 2* 4tb volumes.

I have no idea how you got “gamer” from my post. The vast majority of PC users in the consumer space (and this IS a strictly consumer drive) do not need sequential speeds that Gen 5 provides. Period. Enterprise? Actual workstations? Absolutely. Which, by the by, is why your use case would be far better served by an actual storage array separate from the workstation itself and using proper enterprise U.2 drives in RAID 10 instead of… water cooling consumer drives… in RAID 0… on a workstation that is, presumably, critical for you. I mean, you do you, but no workstation I have ever seen or dealt with would go for that.

 

[chrcoluk]

Seems to be the best gen5 you have reviewed, but gen 5 drives still dont excite me.

 

[R-T-B]

Seems to be the best gen5 you have reviewed, but gen 5 drives still dont excite me.

I'm still waiting for more controller options.

 

[gurusmi]

I have no idea how you got “gamer” from my post. The vast majority of PC users in the consumer space (and this IS a strictly consumer drive) do not need sequential speeds that Gen 5 provides. Period. Enterprise? Actual workstations? Absolutely. Which, by the by, is why your use case would be far better served by an actual storage array separate from the workstation itself and using proper enterprise U.2 drives in RAID 10 instead of… water cooling consumer drives… in RAID 0… on a workstation that is, presumably, critical for you. I mean, you do you, but no workstation I have ever seen or dealt with would go for that.

To be honest. You don't know what people need or not. There are much to much use cases in the world that you know 10% of them. You also don't know what i'm doing, why and how. But you gonna tell me what's best for me. That's the bad style of an typical IT-Consultant.

 

[MachineLearning]

Small correction to some graphs, for example Power Consumption shows Lexar NM790 4TB

Thanks for the review, I'm very happy with this cooling system even if I think Gen5 drives are currently pointless

 

[danc]

phison controllers are not long lasting, their rate of failures reminds me of certain shitty seagate range

 

[..0]

i want 8tb for that price, and i could live with half the speed, and i want large slc cache.
and what was up with the idle power draw?

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Guess with crazy speeds you have to start out with crazy prices
See it in four years when price reality finally sets in

 

[bug]

I recently got 4TB SSD for $200 and change (Silicon Power 4TB SSD). Built with Crucial's NAND, no less. So I could have gotten 8TB of storage and still have a little change, as opposed to getting this drive.

Also:

Write speed starts out at around 7 GB/s, which is very impressive for single-threaded write speeds. These speeds are sustained until 400 GB have been written, which means the drive will fill one third of its capacity in SLC mode first.

Pretty sure you meant "one tenth" there. See below.

In other news, it seems the kilobytes vs kibibytes trick isn't enough sell less storage for a given capacity, manufacturers now include overprovisioning in there, too. This one says 4TB on the sticker, but you only get to play with ~3.7TB. Not linking that one bit, I wish it got mentioned in the "cons" column.

 

[Godrilla]

FYI the WD_BLACK 4TB SN850X NVMe is selling for $298 currently.

 

[W1zzard]

Pretty sure you meant "one tenth" there.

400 GB x 3 (SLC vs TLC) = 1200 GB
100 % / 4096 GB * 1200 GB = 29.29%

 

[bug]

400 GB x 3 (SLC vs TLC) = 1200 GB
100 % / 4096 GB * 1200 GB = 29.29%

Aw crap, it's 400GB in SLC mode. Brain fart, I guess.

Also, it's not 4096GB, but I'm just splitting hairs.

 

[Wirko]

In other news, it seems the kilobytes vs kibibytes trick isn't enough sell less storage for a given capacity, manufacturers now include overprovisioning in there, too. This one says 4TB on the sticker, but you only get to play with ~3.7TB. Not linking that one bit, I wish it got mentioned in the "cons" column.

Flash manufacturers made a secret deal with HDD and floppy manufacturers around 1983, and since then, "kilo" equals one thousand. Not even Microsoft knew (and still doesn't). No point complaining now.

A 4 TB storage drive is expected to have a grand total of 4,000,000,000,000 bytes available for everything - file systems, partition table, boot sectors. Anything above that is just a bonus. My old 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO has 500,107,862,016 bytes, and I should be glad. My new 128 GB Kingston USB flash drive has 124,017,180,672 bytes, and I should be angry.

As for the size of the overprovisioned area ... only the manufacturer knows that. You can get detailed data for the Micron B58R flash chip in the TPU database, do the math and make an ill-informed estimate, that's all you can do.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Woeful power usage and pricing makes this an instant hard pass as we all know the real world performance is barely an improvement since gen 3 NVME drives. Swing and a huge miss yet again with gen 5. If it were half the price I'd still hesitate due to the power usage being more than 2x my current drives.

 

[atomsymbol]

It is meaningless to publish T700 MySQL Database Performance without comparing it to other SSDs.

 

[Wirko]

Small correction to some graphs, for example Power Consumption shows Lexar NM790 4TB

@W1zzard - The wrong graphs are still there. Did Excel throw a number-too-big error that your automation scripts couldn't handle?

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard - The wrong graphs are still there. Did Excel throw a number-too-big error that your automation scripts couldn't handle?

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