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Help double check and improve my i7-9750H setup

bustaone

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When I was helping you back in September, your log file showed that your laptop has a 50W power limit long term which is likely enforced by an embedded controller (EC). You cannot use ThrottleStop to get beyond this limit. Nothing has changed since then. Your laptop still has this same limit.
Back in September I wasn't using the power limit settings in the end I had turned them off from my original screenshots once I had removed VBS. Is it definite that I'm locked to 50w? How can you tell? Only wonder Because if I turn the TPL settings off I get a PL2 warning but with the TPL settings on I don't.

The log file looks OK. Are you using the Windows High Performance power plan when playing games? For maximum performance and minimum latency, you should be using the High Performance power plan.
No I use balanced as I'm not a fan of having the CPU pinned at full speed even when idle.
 

unclewebb

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How can you tell?
The most recent log file you posted only shows the CPU running at up to 45W. If you play a more CPU demanding game that needs more than 50W, your CPU is likely going to power limit throttle long term right at 50W.

I'm not a fan of having the CPU pinned at full speed even when idle.
When set to maximum speed, individual cores with nothing to do will save power by entering the low power C7 state. In this state the cores are running at 0 MHz and 0 volts. The speed of the active cores makes very little difference to power consumption when a computer is idle.

Here is an example of 10 cores all running at 5000 MHz. The low power consumption and extremely low core temperatures prove that a CPU pinned to full speed is not such a bad thing. The majority of the CPU is turned off internally.

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bustaone

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The most recent log file you posted only shows the CPU running at up to 45W. If you play a more CPU demanding game that needs more than 50W, your CPU is likely going to power limit throttle long term right at 50W.
I have attached a log of running a CPU stress test, from what I can tell to me it looks like its going past 50w, can you confirm that?
 

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unclewebb

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Code:
   DATE       TIME    MULTI   C0%   CKMOD  BAT_mW  TEMP   NVIDIA GPU     VID   POWER
2024-01-07  16:51:50  39.30   99.9  100.0       0   61     300    41   1.0077   41.3
2024-01-07  16:51:51  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   60     300    41   1.0424   34.0
2024-01-07  16:51:52  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   59     300    41   1.0077   34.1
2024-01-07  16:51:53  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   59     300    41   1.0078   34.5
2024-01-07  16:51:54  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   59     300    41   1.0325   34.0
2024-01-07  16:51:55  39.96   99.9  100.0       0   78     300    40   1.0488   35.7
2024-01-07  16:51:56  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   84     300    40   1.0493   68.2
2024-01-07  16:51:57  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   84     300    40   1.0491   68.5
2024-01-07  16:51:58  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   84     300    40   1.0518   68.3
2024-01-07  16:51:59  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   83     300    40   1.0469   68.3
2024-01-07  16:52:00  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   83     300    40   1.0686   68.5
2024-01-07  16:52:01  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   85     300    41   1.0428   69.5
2024-01-07  16:52:02  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   85     300    41   1.0408   69.3
2024-01-07  16:52:03  39.18   99.9  100.0       0   64     300    41   1.0432   50.1
2024-01-07  16:52:04  40.00  100.0  100.0       0   63     300    41   1.0369   36.2
2024-01-07  16:52:05  40.00   99.9  100.0       0   62     300    40   1.0398   36.7

The test you are running is going up to 69W but only for about 7 seconds at a time. You need to run a test that stresses the CPU for longer than 7 seconds and it also needs to use the Nvidia GPU at the same time. This is when the lower 50W power limit will likely be enforced by the EC.

Instead of torturing your computer with unrealistic stress tests, go play some games and be happy that it runs as well as it does.
 

bustaone

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The test you are running is going up to 69W but only for about 7 seconds at a time. You need to run a test that stresses the CPU for longer than 7 seconds and it also needs to use the Nvidia GPU at the same time. This is when the lower 50W power limit will likely be enforced by the EC.

Instead of torturing your computer with unrealistic stress tests, go play some games and be happy that it runs as well as it does.
100% but its more curiosity now to see if it has a enforced limit or not, although from this quick 5 min stress I did using aida64 on GPU and CPU at same time looks like its holding power over 50w so I think it looks good to me anyway that there isn't an enforced power on this laptop.
 

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unclewebb

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I think it looks good
I think you are right. There is no power limit throttling in that log file. Just a little bit of thermal throttling when power consumption is at about 60W.
 
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