NVIDIA Announces the GeForce RTX 40 SUPER Series Graphics Cards

[btarunr]

NVIDIA today gave its GeForce RTX 40-series "Ada" a midlife refresh targeting the higher end of its product stack, with the new GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER, GeForce RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, and the GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER. The new RTX 4080 SUPER replaces the current RTX 4080, which will gradually be phased out of the market. The new RTX 4070 Ti SUPER does the same to the current RTX 4070 Ti. The RTX 4070 SUPER, however, will coexist with the current RTX 4070, albeit at a slight price premium. The RTX 4070 SUPER and RTX 4070 Ti SUPER are both being recommended by NVIDIA for maxed out 1440p gaming with full ray tracing; while the RTX 4080 SUPER is for those who want to max out gameplay at 4K with full ray tracing. The RTX 4070 SUPER and RTX 4070 Ti SUPER should still very much be capable of 4K gaming and more than acceptable frame rates, especially given the latest DLSS 3 Frame Generation and its proliferation among new AAA titles.

NVIDIA is giving the three new graphics card SKUs a staggered launch spread across January 2024. The RTX 4070 SUPER should be available to purchase on January 17, at a starting price of $599, which was the original MSRP of the RTX 4070. After this launch, the RTX 4070 slides down a bit to $549 while remaining in the product stack. Things get interesting higher up the stack. The RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, which goes on sale on January 24, is priced at $799, while the current RTX 4070 Ti is being retired from the product stack. The remaining RTX 4070 Ti cards should be up at slightly discounted prices.



The new RTX 4080 SUPER is the most interesting card among the three in terms of pricing. When it goes on sale, on January 31, it will be priced at $999, which is $200 lower than the launch price of the original RTX 4080. As with all product launches in the series so far, NVIDIA is encouraging its custom board partners to have products at the MSRP, by giving them a day early review publication date (which should get them to innovate with their most affordable products).

The new GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER is carved out of the same 5 nm "AD104" silicon as the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 Ti. The "AD104" physically has 60 SM (streaming multiprocessors), from which the original RTX 4070 only got 46, and the RTX 4070 Ti maxed out all 60. The new RTX 4070 SUPER being launched today gets 56 SM, which gives it 7,168 CUDA cores, 224 Tensor cores, 56 RT cores, 224 TMUs, and the full 80 ROPs present on the silicon (the RTX 4070 only got 64). The memory sub-system is unchanged from the RTX 4070—12 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory across a 192-bit memory bus.



Given that NVIDIA maxed out the "AD104" to create the RTX 4070 Ti, it turned to the larger "AD103" silicon to come up with the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER, which in our opinion gets the biggest specs upgrade in this refresh. The RTX 4070 Ti SUPER comes with 16 GB of 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory, across the wider 256-bit memory bus of the "AD103." The SM count has increased by 10%, now at 66 out of the 80 present on the "AD103." This gives it 8,448 CUDA cores, 264 Tensor cores, 66 RT cores, 264 TMUs, and a 112 ROPs. The 21 Gbps GDDR6X memory across 256-bit memory bus yields a healthy 716 GB/s of memory bandwidth.

Lastly, there's the GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER. NVIDIA had nearly maxed out the "AD103" to create the original RTX 4080, but resisted the temptation to use the larger "AD102" for the RTX 4080 SUPER. It think it has what it needs to carve out a faster product within the "AD103." The RTX 4080 SUPER maxes out the silicon, enabling all 80 SM, for 10,240 CUDA cores, 320 Tensor cores, 80 RT cores, 320 TMUs, and 112 ROPs. While the original RTX 4080 had a memory speed of 22.4 Gbps, NVIDIA has increased this to 23 Gbps on the RTX 4080 SUPER, giving it 736 GB/s of bandwidth.

The GPU base and boost frequencies are almost the same between the RTX 4070 and RTX 4070 SUPER; as well as that between the RTX 4070 Ti and RTX 4070 Ti SUPER; but sees a 100 MHz increase on both values, between the RTX 4080 and RTX 4080 SUPER.



In terms of TGP (total graphics power), the RTX 4070 SUPER gets a 10% increase to 220 W, which means that you no longer have custom-design boards with single 8-pin PCIe power connectors, they all have 12VHPWR, and include an NVIDIA-designed adapter that converts two 8-pin PCIe to a 12VHPWR capable of delivering 300 W continuous. The TGP of the RTX 4070 Ti SUPER remains at 285 W; as does that of the RTX 4080 SUPER, at 320 W.

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[neatfeatguy]

Eh....

Still priced too high for me (thankfully I'm not in the market for a new GPU). Drop everything down another $100 and they might have something worthwhile.

 

[Selaya]

can we have some comparison charts instead of just nv's useless stock advertisement pictures

 

[DJ_Cas]

Eh....

Still priced too high for me (thankfully I'm not in the market for a new GPU). Drop everything down another $100 and they might have something worthwhile.

You probably need to invest in time machine

 

[Pumper]

It's a shame they did not drop the 4070 to $500 and did not make the 4070S a 16GB card. Seems kind of a waste of an "upgrade" when they keep the 4070 in production.

 

[MrDweezil]

Cheaper base 4070 is kind of interesting.

 

[rv8000]

Now all we need to know is will AIBs be releasing at 1199 or 1299 for the 4080 super, because ill be shocked if we see anything less than $1099 for an actual price.

 

[neatfeatguy]

You probably need to invest in time machine

Perhaps, but maybe the lack of sales on GPUs has forced the downward pricing of these new variants compared to the originals that released at a higher price (or same price)?

I'd like to think enough folks were voting with their wallets and this Super release is an attempt to put out a more proper card that Nvidia should have released from the start at a more proper price point, too. Maybe I'm just a wishful thinker that consumers had a hand in the price drops here.

 

[Pumper]

Now all we need to know is will AIBs be releasing at 1199 or 1299 for the 4080 super, because ill be shocked if we see anything less than $1099 for an actual price.

Have to wonder just how screwed they are sitting on the piles of overpriced 4080 cards when their margins are lower than the price drop.

 

[Dimitriman]

This would have been nice 1y ago but now one will buy a product that will be completely outclassed in about 11 months for the same price. Unless Jensen again decides to do his amazing "layering on top" once more and gives us 0 perf/$ increase gen over gen.

 

[Cheeseball]

The original RTX 4070 should've gotten reduced to $450, because putting it in-line with the RX 7800 XT ($500) won't help it much.

 

[Imsochobo]

The original RTX 4070 should've gotten reduced to $450, because putting it in-line with the RX 7800 XT ($500) won't help it much.

samey performance, lower power, av1 and x264 that works at all, superior h265 encoder, superior upscaling, superior RT performance, gpu passthrough works. and finally you're not living in fear that drivers will be EOL in 2027 for rdna3 (Vega is EOL and still for sale in 2024 products....)

 

[Assimilator]

Now all we need to know is will AIBs be releasing at 1199 or 1299 for the 4080 super, because ill be shocked if we see anything less than $1099 for an actual price.

Nothing stopping you from buying a Founders Edition, which will be a great card - unless you're one of those children who bursts into tears when "12VHPWR" is mentioned.

The original RTX 4070 should've gotten reduced to $450, because putting it in-line with the RX 7800 XT ($500) won't help it much.

Eh?

After this launch, the RTX 4070 slides down a bit to $549 while remaining in the product stack.

 

[Cheeseball]

samey performance, lower power, av1 and x264 that works at all, superior h265 encoder, superior upscaling, superior RT performance, gpu passthrough works. and finally you're not living in fear that drivers will be EOL in 2027 for rdna3 (Vega is EOL and still for sale in 2024 products....)

H.264 encoding has gotten better since the April 2023 Adrenalin drivers. They still don't beat NVIDIA quality at the same settings, but they are close. This can be compared in OBS 29.1+.

H.265/HEVC encoding quality has always been the same as NVIDIA cards. Same with AV1.

GPU passthrough (to a Linux VM and vice-versa) works fine, although I do know that it requires a little more effort to get it to work (VBIOS copying).

The driver EOL issue is still non-issue as the Vega products that are still for sale now are just old APUs. Besides by 2027 I would've upgraded to something newer.

Eh?

That still holds my point. They should've reduced it to $450 (or maybe even to $500) instead of $550. The 7800 XT still has better rasterization performance compared to it.

 

[rv8000]

Nothing stopping you from buying a Founders Edition, which will be a great card - unless you're one of those children who bursts into tears when "12VHPWR" is mentioned.


Eh?

Weird thing to point out as all 4080s had the 12p connector, so uh yea…

Point being the entire line-up is still largely over priced, and we’re still well within the era mid-high tier cards not existing at MSRP.

It will always make me sad and happy EVGA left the market and gave up dealing with Nvidias bull.

 

[gffermari]

H.264 encoding has gotten better since the April 2023 Adrenalin drivers. They still don't beat NVIDIA quality at the same settings, but they are close. This can be compared in OBS 29.1+.

H.265/HEVC encoding quality has always been the same as NVIDIA cards. Same with AV1.

GPU passthrough (to a Linux VM and vice-versa) works fine, although I do know that it requires a little more effort to get it to work (VBIOS copying).

The driver EOL issue is still non-issue as the Vega products that are still for sale now are just old APUs. Besides by 2027 I would've upgraded to something newer.



That still holds my point. They should've reduced it to $450 (or maybe even to $500) instead of $550. The 7800 XT still has better rasterization performance compared to it.

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Yes and it's the other way around in modern games and the trend will be this in the next gen ones.
The 4070 still is not a good option against the 4070 Super.
You either go to 4070 Super or 4070Ti Super. There's nothing else out there.

 

[QUANTUMPHYSICS]

How many people woke up to NVDA $515 this morning!!!

I'll stick with my 4090 (regular) till the 5090.

 

[Cheeseball]

Yes and it's the other way around in modern games and the trend will be this in the next gen ones.
The 4070 still is not a good option against the 4070 Super.
You either go to 4070 Super or 4070Ti Super. There's nothing else out there.

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At least show the standard benchmark alongside the ray tracing/path tracing one. Rasterization is still the primary rendering technique for all games with ray tracing being a "higher quality" preset on top of the render.

 

[Dawora]

Eh....

Still priced too high for me (thankfully I'm not in the market for a new GPU). Drop everything down another $100 and they might have something worthwhile.

Or just go and buy cheaper GPU.

If it cost 800$ u will say Eh... drop another 100$ down..
And if it cost 700$ u will say Eh.... drop another 100$ down..
Or 600$ and u still want 100$ down, its never ending cycle.

This would have been nice 1y ago but now one will buy a product that will be completely outclassed in about 11 months for the same price. Unless Jensen again decides to do his amazing "layering on top" once more and gives us 0 perf/$ increase gen over gen.

"0 perf/$ increase gen over gen."

Trolling more? or newbie? this never hapens.
There was allways been better perf/$ every gen.

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At least show the standard benchmark alongside the ray tracing/path tracing one. Rasterization is still the primary rendering technique for all games with ray tracing being a "higher quality" preset on top of the render.

Also there is Option in the game and i can run Alan wake 2 1440p +100fps using Rtx4070.
There is lot of settings that is not needed and game still looks good or even better.

But those Scifi HC kids allways play Uber ultra max settings..there no other way.

 

[5 o'clock Charlie]

Hats off to @TheLostSwede for predicting a 40 Super series back in May 2023!

 

[Niceumemu]

Still using DP1.4? You'd have to be a moron to buy one of these unless you have no working GPU

 

[x4it3n]

You probably need to invest in time machine

Well not really... if people decided to NOT buy overpriced Hardware, then Nvidia (same as any other brand) would have to lower their prices

 

[Assimilator]

Well not really... if people decided to NOT buy overpriced Hardware, then Nvidia (same as any other brand) would have to lower their prices

Sure, but that's not how consumerism works.

 

[sLowEnd]

It's a shame they did not drop the 4070 to $500 and did not make the 4070S a 16GB card. Seems kind of a waste of an "upgrade" when they keep the 4070 in production.

The 4070 Super is a lot closer to the 4070 Ti spec-wise than it is to the 4070. It'll be a pretty significant performance increase for its price point, even without the extra VRAM.

 

[bug]

I did not expect anything worthwhile from Nvidia. I was not disappointed.