It's the same level noticeable at any other resolution. Not the point.
I tried hard but couldn't comprehend this. English please.
Irrelevant.
At 20 FPS perhaps. Just a reminder: this APU has worse gaming performance than the RX 6500 XT. MUCH worse. And RX 6500 XT is already a GPU that can't play games at 1080p no matter how much AFMF you throw at it.
I don't yell. I just acknowledged the fact the 4090 doubles the 6800 XT's speed in raster and I won't even bother calculating how far ahead it is in RT. This is what I call a sensible upgrade. When it's impossible not to tell the difference. $1800 is too much, I agree. But I don't tell to buy it right now.
Anyway, we're way too off-topic. Want further discussion, PM me. I don't have much else to say anyway.
I am only going to respond to one of your points and bring the 7900GRE back in. If you can't comprehend that if cost effective is the goal that a GPU that is 20% faster than a 7900XTX should be $1100 more or how a $1700 4080 is worse value much less a 7900Xt for $1000. You see I live in Canada and PC parts have a premium. Of course you have to add tax to those prices. That makes a 4090 a cool $3000 if you don't get free shipping. If you can buy a 7900GRe they are about $800 and if they can perform and are readily available they will be popular. Let's talk about 6000, which GPU was the most cost effective for 6000? The 6600M, you could get them for $149 but you could not buty them at Canada Computers. Neither can you buy a 7900 GRE from them.
BTW I also have a 6500XT and know that there are plenty of Games you can play at 1080P.
RT is exactly what percentage of Games released in 2023? Do you think RT matters when I see what Games my Humble Choice is giving me this month? Do I think of RT when I watch trailers of Space Marine 2 or Homeworld 3?
I am so tired of Matchbox vs Hot Wheels. Some of you may not get that analogy so I will explain. There were 2 major die cast Cars you could buy in Canada when I was a kid. Matchbox had die cast cars and were English based. Hot Wheels was American and kids waxed on for days on which one was better, even though each was very capable of being crushed by cars. We did not have social media then but the Nvidia AMD argument is as old as that. So we come back to the narrative vs the truth. I have been drinking today so you get an op ed.
In pure raster the 4090 is only faster than the 7900XTX in some scenarios. It is much more nuanced than you imply. The 7900 GRE is a 7900 series GPU and as such enjoys the same benefits. Indeed the 7900 GRE if it was part of the official stack would be the go to card for the high end AMD user. There are some people that will never buy Nvidia once they learn that though the narrative seems like Nvidia could be a desultory entity on the space experience of such confirms what I am saying.
1. I had a GTS 450, Nvidia pumped SLI so I bought another one. I discovered TW Medieval 2 and those cards were not enough. I sold them to my friend about 2 months later he tells me SLI is not working. I do some research and learn that Nvidia disabled SLI support for the GTS 450.
2. For my 50th I (like all of us) I was in COVID. Instead of a trip to Tahiti or Costa Rica, I bought a Gaming laptop. It is the Strix 17 with a 5800/3060 combo. I got the laptop opened Nvidia's software package and it looked exactly the same as when I had my GTS 450. I wish I was making that up. AMD software in comparison is actually so good that in my opinion it is one of the reasons to get AMD over Nvidia. That is no different than Intel's 10 years and resurfaced ++++ at the same core count philosophy.
I don't like to be a sheep so I look at raw performance. 17 million transistors is not a joke. and neither is 57,700 million on the GPU.
GRE is not worth it 7800XT is like 518€, GRE is like 579-600€ its barely any faster so save the money you wont feel 8% difference in gaming.
That is why it is not part of the official stack (right now) neither was the 6600M. Made the 6600 pointless for $100 less
