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[ThrashZone]

wasn't the MX100 released in 2014 or something?
In 2008 you would have payed something like 500$ for 32 GB.

Hi,
I don't remember about then+- yeah.
Linux 17.1 killed a 256gb one I bough a bit later it never ran trim so I had to rma one of two of those.

 

[Dr. Dro]

SSD's weren't even close to being affordable till at least half a decade later. I get the point that Vista wasn't as bad as it's made out to be but the about having/needing SSD is BS as well ~ they only started getting mildly affordable around 2012-14 at best & anyone asking you to buy "enthusiast" level tech to make your system better(?) has just lost it!

This is true. It's one of the things that really hurt Vista at the time. It's not that Vista's system requirements were unreasonably high, they were just unreasonably high at the time. It was eventually revealed that this was even the sentiment at Microsoft internally at the time, with Mike Nash's famous “I now have a $2,100 e-mail machine” quote.

They Criticized Vista. And They Should Know. (Published 2008)

One year after the birth of Windows Vista, why do so many Windows XP users still decline to “upgrade”?

www.nytimes.com

Vista is no different from Windows 7 in the regard that once installed on an SSD, the performance will be more than substantially improved, though. It's basically essential, IMHO.

 

[onemanhitsquad]

Not true. After SP1 Vista was very stable and much better on resources. After SP2 it was smooth as glass.

I had no problems with vista...did a lot of gaming on it , never had an issue.

 

[3valatzy]

Vista is no different from Windows 7 in the regard that once installed on an SSD, the performance will be more than substantially improved, though. It's basically essential, IMHO.

Windows 7 didn't need an SSD. I remember it being butter smooth and conveniently fast on an HDD.
Then, Windows 10 came and in the beginning (several update cycles) it was fine, afterwards its hardware requirements got extremely high and it began to feel very slow on an HDD.

Vista did need both very fast CPU, more RAM (4, 6 or even 8 GB) and an SSD.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Windows 7 didn't need an SSD. I remember it being butter smooth and conveniently fast on an HDD.
Then, Windows 10 came and in the beginning (several update cycles) it was fine, afterwards its hardware requirements got extremely high and it began to feel very slow on an HDD.

Vista did need both very fast CPU, more RAM (4, 6 or even 8 GB) and an SSD.

Neither of them *need*, but regardless, both suck on mechanical storage. It's just a game changer after you get used to it, you can't go back and you will never find the performance of a mechanical boot drive acceptable, regardless of OS.

 

[3valatzy]

you can't go back

You can. There are PC hardware components on the ebay, buy them and run Windows 98 or XP if you will.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You can. There are PC hardware components on the ebay, buy them and run Windows 98 or XP if you will.

You've missed the point, man. What I meant is that it's just not acceptable unless you have the patience of a monk.

Anyway, this conversation reminds me of this clip LOL

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I believe win-11 is the only os to require an ssd.
AI will need it

 

[onemanhitsquad]

"F" AI...dont need it ...making me go back to offline and Win XP...haha

 

[lexluthermiester]

I slapped in Core2Duo T8100, 2x2GB RAM and SSD. Vista "flied" like ya new Ryzens with Win 11 nowadays...

And that setup will run Windows 11 too! Likely very well.

I had no problems with vista...did a lot of gaming on it , never had an issue.

To be fair, if you had the hardware to run it and the drivers you were running worked well, then even the RTM Vista was decent.

Windows 7 didn't need an SSD. I remember it being butter smooth and conveniently fast on an HDD.

And it still does. Win 7 is the best version of Windows ever, full stop!

 

[Dr. Dro]

And that setup will run Windows 11 too! Likely very well.

It should, although won't claim it's a speed demon if going by my Mac mini's P8600 processor. Still, it's plenty enough for basic tasks and it will handle retro emulation decently if the laptop's got any form of graphics (that is, not Intel GMA graphics). I've stuck to 8.1 on the mini so far but I think i'll try to get Windows 11 (12?) 24H2 running on it once the RTM ISO is available.

 

[ThrashZone]

"F" AI...dont need it ...making me go back to offline and Win XP...haha

Hi,
Little to early to say that lol
Have to monitor new ai tutorials on elevenforum.com to see how bad it's going to be
Copilot tutorials so far has turned it off but with all things MS they will likely ignore the regs later

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

; Created by: Shawn Brink
; Created on: December 11, 2023
; Tutorial: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-open-copilot-at-startup-in-windows-11.19626/

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Notifications\Settings]
"AutoOpenCopilotLargeScreens"=dword:00000000

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

; Created by: Shawn Brink
; Created on: September 26, 2023
; Tutorial: https://www.elevenforum.com/t/enable-or-disable-windows-copilot-in-windows-11.17045/

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot]
"TurnOffWindowsCopilot"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsCopilot]
"TurnOffWindowsCopilot"=dword:00000001

 

[AleXXX666]

It should, although won't claim it's a speed demon if going by my Mac mini's P8600 processor. Still, it's plenty enough for basic tasks and it will handle retro emulation decently if the laptop's got any form of graphics (that is, not Intel GMA graphics). I've stuck to 8.1 on the mini so far but I think i'll try to get Windows 11 (12?) 24H2 running on it once the RTM ISO is available.

yea, mine was GMA 945 LMFAO.

P series were faster than T, know it

SSD's weren't even close to being affordable till at least half a decade later. I get the point that Vista wasn't as bad as it's made out to be but the part about having/needing SSD is BS as well ~ they only started getting mildly affordable around 2012-14 at best & anyone asking you to buy "enthusiast" level tech to make your system better(?) has just lost it!

My 1st SSD this time was Corsair Force Series™ 3 60GB LOL. Yeah it was priced like today 1 TB M2 LOL, but it worked in many many machines until replaced last year for good lol.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I call fake news checkers all over again I mean the irony of monitoring the monitors

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