Patriot Elite 5 RGB DDR5-6000 48 GB CL42

[ir_cow]

Patriot extends the Viper lineup with a new series under the Elite brand. Targeting builders on a budget, this 48 GB DDR5-6000 kit aims to please while keeping prices down. Follow along as we test this memory and see how it stacks up to the competition!

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[PrEzi]

Sorry but how is this a "sweet spot" with such LOUSY default timings ? I literally can find a dozen other 24x2 kits running 6000+ (even 6600 kits) with CL32-39-39-39 timings also on 1.35 Volts ? Not to mention there are also some "sexy" 2x48 kits also far better spec-wise than this trash here...

 

[67Elco]

For the price and it's potential it does have value for some builds.

 

[ir_cow]

Sorry but how is this a "sweet spot" with such LOUSY default timings ? I literally can find a dozen other 24x2 kits running 6000+ (even 6600 kits) with CL32-39-39-39 timings also on 1.35 Volts ? Not to mention there are also some "sexy" 2x48 kits also far better spec-wise than this trash here...

6000 MT/s is the sweet spot for AMD. Minimal effort to get it working with EXPO / XMP in a 1:1 ratio. Most people will not be able to get 6600, or even 6400 MT/s at 1:1 ratio to the memory controller. Not for the Ryzen 7000 anyways.

The appeal here is not the primary timings, but the dual 5600 / 6000 profile, memory size and price at a budget price. Its true the voltage could have been a bit lower like 1.3 or 1.25v, but I think its higher just so a higher amount of ICs will pass the binning process.

 

[PrEzi]

6000 MT/s is the sweet spot for AMD. Minimal effort to get it working with EXPO / XMP in a 1:1 ratio. Most people will not be able to get 6600, or even 6400 MT/s at 1:1 ratio to the memory controller. Not for the Ryzen 7000 anyways.

The appeal here is not the primary timings, but the dual 5600 / 6000 profile, memory size and price at a budget price. Its true the voltage could have been a bit lower like 1.3 or 1.25v, but I think its higher just so a higher amount of ICs will pass the binning process.

If you take a look at - for example - some benchmarks from HWUB you will notice that the sweet spot is either at VERY tightly tuned 6000 timings or rather -- tightly tuned 6200-6400 timings. With new AGESA it is not a problem to reach 6400 or even 6600 MTs anymore.
The main thing is to keep the controller at the 1:1 ration and then go all the way up + optimizing the timings.

I still think this set is trash compared what kind of "stock" profiles are loaded into it. If it costs half of "normal" module prices then it might be a good deal for people that actually know how to manually tweak their systems...
But I definitely disagree with the "generic recommendation".

 

[ir_cow]

With new AGESA it is not a problem to reach 6400 or even 6600 MTs anymore.
The main thing is to keep the controller at the 1:1 ration and then go all the way up + optimizing the timings.

AMD calls 6000 MT/s the sweet spot for Ryzen 7000 CPUs. It's in their review guides. As far as AGESA getting easier for 6400 and 6600 support. You'll be surprised how many systems still have problems with this. From the ones I retested (that didn't work at all before) they either will set it to 2:1 ratio after failing to boot a number of times or jam a ton of voltage in just to be bootable. Either is not ideal.

Now say you have a MB motherboard and CPU that happily does 6400 plug n play. Now for best performance, changing the FCLK is recommended. After playing around with SoC voltage and a few others it's stable for daily use. At that point might as well just go to 1.45v and drop the timings yourself.

If you done all that, this Patriot Elite 5 is absolutely not for you. Budget memory for people just want to plug in and go. Not worrying about the best possible memory tweaks or chasing that maximum frame rate.

Of course if you can find better memory for the same price or cheaper, buy that instead.

But I definitely disagree with the "generic recommendation".

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[b1k3rdude]

So as others have commented, why would we go for a CL42 kit rather than a CL32. That and this kit in the few places I have looked is $50-60 more expensive than many other 2x16GB CL32 kits. I really don't see your avgerage informed user, paying more, for less performance. That and 32GB is still overkill for most non-professional users/gamers.

@ir_cow I do appreciate that you tested the kit on both Amd and Intel though, its always nice to see how said platforms react to different timings and memory speeds.

 

[ir_cow]

We don't have to agree on everything . At first I thought the loser timings would hurt the product, but if your playing on max settings or not a esports gamer, not gonna see a difference. I can see a vaild reason not to use this on AMD, but it still will come down to personal game preferences.

Also if you find a better deal for same size and speed, go for it. I would too. Prices bounce around all the time with DRAM expected to double by the end of 2024, it's gonna be 2021 all over again.

 

[starfals]

Really bad timings/speed tbh.

 

[matthiasgalvin]

I would love to know where I can get this kit for $110! The nearest street price that I see is $168 (at time of writing):

 

[ir_cow]

I would love to know where I can get this kit for $110! The nearest street price that I see is $168 (at time of writing):
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Looks like prices went up for all 48GB. No surprised at all. Still compare to everyone, it's competitive.

I don't know under why people are up in arms about the price. Find something cheaper, buy that...

 

[matthiasgalvin]

Looks like prices went up for all 48GB. No surprised at all. Still compare to everyone, it's competitive.

I don't know under why people are up in arms about the price. Find something cheaper, buy that...

I'm not ribbing you for the MSRP, so much as if you guys wanted to add a "street price at time of writing" in addition to MSRP that'd be informative

 

[Sabishii Hito]

Looks like prices went up for all 48GB. No surprised at all. Still compare to everyone, it's competitive.

I don't know under why people are up in arms about the price. Find something cheaper, buy that...

Not people, just one guy who apparently only cares about XMP profile and not ICs used/OC potential.

 

[ir_cow]

@Sabishii Hito care to elaborate?

 

[Sabishii Hito]

Seemed like there was only one guy complaining, but I looked again and another person also mentioned the apparent price/performance not being great. Anyway, at the time this was probably the cheapest Hynix 24Gbit M-die kit and I thought it was a great buy. Overclocks like nobody's business. It seems to be discontinued sadly, or at least a lot harder to get.

 

[matthiasgalvin]

Seemed like there was only one guy complaining, but I looked again and another person also mentioned the apparent price/performance not being great. Anyway, at the time this was probably the cheapest Hynix 24Gbit M-die kit and I thought it was a great buy. Overclocks like nobody's business. It seems to be discontinued sadly, or at least a lot harder to get.

I checked Amazon, and it's shipped by Amazon via Patriot's store and is cheaper than the newegg screenshot I sent earlier: https://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Viper-Elite-DDR5-6000MT/dp/B0CBMS2CMX?th=1

it appears to be the cheapest H24M kit available (tied with a non-RGB G.Skill kit)

Also, the reason I brought up price was that the review mentioned competitive pricing and a Great Value emblem; it's absolutely true at MSRP, but it's misleading if street price isn't close to MSRP. I understand it's a nitpick, but I also followed-up on it with a suggestion so as not to criticize for the sake of criticizing.

(And I didn't mention the ICs or the OC quality because that was already in the review; what's more, only Hynix 24Gbit can get higher than 6000MT/s at tight timings and I also didn't have a kit to remark on any personal OC)