Intel Core i7-14700K Slides Down to $389

[EatingDirt]

Than everything Intel, we tested it with dragam. Even a 12900k matches the x3d

Don't know what you're doing wrong, considering TPU's numbers show the 7800X3D light years ahead of even the new 14900KS in Cyberpunk at 720p, 1080p & 1440p. Unless of course, you're just using 4k numbers, in which case a 'win' is within the margin of error, and not really a win at all.

 

[JustBenching]

Don't know what you're doing wrong, considering TPU's numbers show the 7800X3D light years ahead of even the new 14900KS in Cyberpunk at 720p, 1080p & 1440p. Unless of course, you're just using 4k numbers, in which case a 'win' is within the margin of error, and not really a win at all.

Im not doing anything wrong, im not the one with the x3d. A guy posted his results with his x3d in cyberpunk thinking it would be vastly faster than a 12900k. He was wrong. Very, very wrong.

Here you go, page 10

Is Intel going to deliver a processor/chipset worth waiting for?

Ideally a brand new chip that hasn't been fiddled with previously, i.e. no running at 6.2 GHz all core for a year or smth. Out of curiosity PL1/PL2 etc. what are the stock time limits? Brand new chip. I think that there are no time limits for 253W. This also could be streamed live on youtube.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[EatingDirt]

Im not doing anything wrong, im not the one with the x3d. A guy posted his results with his x3d in cyberpunk thinking it would be vastly faster than a 12900k. He was wrong. Very, very wrong.

Here you go, page 10

Is Intel going to deliver a processor/chipset worth waiting for?

Ideally a brand new chip that hasn't been fiddled with previously, i.e. no running at 6.2 GHz all core for a year or smth. Out of curiosity PL1/PL2 etc. what are the stock time limits? Brand new chip. I think that there are no time limits for 253W. This also could be streamed live on youtube.

www.techpowerup.com

I'm confused. So, you're saying the X3D chips are slower than Intel chips by taking one guy's experience on the forum, instead of the actual benchmarking results by the site we're on?

 

[JustBenching]

I'm confused. So, you're saying the X3D chips are slower than Intel chips by taking one guy's experience on the forum, instead of the actual benchmarking results by the site we're on?

Nope, i've taken multiple guys experience with tuned x3ds. I can link you actual video footage of a 7800x 3d struggling to keep up with a 12900k. The 14900k sends them both packing.

Im sure in light areas of games the x3d is faster, and maybe that's what you are seeing in the reviews. I'm only testing heavier areas.

 

[EatingDirt]

Nope, i've taken multiple guys experience with tuned x3ds. I can link you actual video footage of a 7800x 3d struggling to keep up with a 12900k. The 14900k sends them both packing.

Im sure in light areas of games the x3d is faster, and maybe that's what you are seeing in the reviews. I'm only testing heavier areas.

Great. Just so I understand:

You're taking anecdotal evidence, of one game(that had issues with Ryzen processors to begin with) to support your statement of the Intel having the superior gaming CPU, regardless of the evidence of practically every single review site & youtube review channel showing the 7800X3D having essentially equal or better performance, while consuming around the same power as the 13600k, or much less power than any other higher tier Intel chip, in the majority of games?

Do you understand the absurdity of your argument?

Even if you wanted to argue for the 13600k, you run into some problems. The price difference between the 13600k and the 7800X3D is currently ~$70. Minimum platform cost total between the two is ~$100 when including the CPU, motherboard & RAM(AM5 is not that expensive anymore). Current cost difference between the 4080 Super & 4090 is $500. The 4070 Ti Super & 4080 Super is $400. The 4070 Ti & 4070 Ti Super $110. The 4070 Super & 4070 Ti is $100. So the maxiumum upgrade you would get, if you were on a strict budget would be getting a 4070 Ti over a 4070 Super. That's an 8% improvement in FPS. The 7800X3D shows, in CPU bound gaming scenario's(720p), according to Techpowerup's test suite, to have ~15% more FPS than the 13600k. So... getting the 7800X3D seems like a better investment, does it not?

I'd even argue the 7600x is a better choice than the 13600k. 10% less performance(720p), but cheaper, and on a platform that can be upgraded. Minimum platform cost is less than the 13600k paired with DDR4.

 

[JustBenching]

Great. Just so I understand:

You're taking anecdotal evidence

What is "anecdotal evidence"? Video footage is empirical data. If anything the reviews are anecdotal evidence, since they are just bars made on excel.

regardless of the evidence of practically every single review site & youtube review channel showing the 7800X3D having essentially equal or better performance, while consuming around the same power as the 13600k, or much less power than any other higher tier Intel chip, in the majority of games?

Reviewers are testing out of the box. I don't run my stuff out of the box so I really don't care. If my argument is absurd then someone will post video footage of the x3d beating the crap out of the 14900k at 95 watts. We just have to wait a bit.

 

[EatingDirt]

What is "anecdotal evidence"? Video footage is empirical data. If anything the reviews are anecdotal evidence, since they are just bars made on excel.


Reviewers are testing out of the box. I don't run my stuff out of the box so I really don't care. If my argument is absurd then someone will post video footage of the x3d beating the crap out of the 14900k at 95 watts. We just have to wait a bit.

You clearly don't understand the absurdity of your argument if you're arguing that screenshots, and even worse, screenshots without game settings of one game, as the superiority of Intel chips in gaming. There's nothing to argue here, you're just wrong, and it's not worth discussing if that is your evidence.

Just an FYI, if your performance is the same as someone else with the same settings and same GPU, but different CPU, you're GPU bound. This and this is what that would look like. Congratulations, according to your argument, the best gaming CPU is all of them.

 

[JustBenching]

You clearly don't understand the absurdity of your argument if you're arguing that screenshots, and even worse, screenshots without game settings of one game, as the superiority of Intel chips in gaming. There's nothing to argue here, you're just wrong, and it's not worth discussing if that is your evidence.

Just an FYI, if your performance is the same as someone else with the same settings and same GPU, but different CPU, you're GPU bound. This and this is what that would look like. Congratulations, according to your argument, the best gaming CPU is all of them.

We were both on a 4090 1080p with dlss UP. You can clearly see from the actual SS that we were not gpu bound, since the gpu was sitting at 70%.

And no, I'm not talking about screenshots, I told you already I have actual video footage. You ignored that part cause it didn't fit your story.

Will actual video footage, with settings and all, of a 14900k at 95 watts bearing an x3d convince you? If not this is a waste of time.

 

[sLowEnd]

An interesting point to note here, is that while the i7-14700K is selling at $389, its sibling without the iGPU, the i7-14700KF, remains at $399.

Weird. Usually the KF is what drops first, if not both simultaneously.

 

[EatingDirt]

We were both on a 4090 1080p with dlss UP. You can clearly see from the actual SS that we were not gpu bound, since the gpu was sitting at 70%.

Where's the evidence?

And no, I'm not talking about screenshots, I told you already I have actual video footage. You ignored that part cause it didn't fit your story.

There is no video evidence in the one piece of evidence you provided.

Will actual video footage, with settings and all, of a 14900k at 95 watts bearing an x3d convince you? If not this is a waste of time.

Why would I need actual video footage of one game, when I can refer to dozens of different reviews showing the 7800X3D being faster, or as fast as all Intel CPU's in the majority of games? Why do you think the performance in one game would convince me, or anyone, of your argument that Intel makes the superior gaming CPU's? (As an aside, the 7800X3D CPU doesn't need 95W to compete with 95W Intel CPU's, they only need 60W to compete with 95W Intel CPU's.)

This is all very tiring because you don't understand how ridiculous your argument is.

 

[Niceumemu]

Fanboys out in full force today

This CPU is still a great choice for people that do more than just game

If you get this worked up about a news post about a price drop consider going outside for a bit maybe, have some time away from your keyboard