MSI Spatium M580 Frozr 4 TB

[W1zzard]

The MSI Spatium M580 is the company's first 14 GB/s PCI-Express Gen 5 SSD, and it's available in a 4 TB version. Unlike many competitors, MSI has chosen a passive heatsink, which ensures there's no additional fan noise. Testing in our review confirms that there's no thermal throttling either.

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[b1k3rdude]

Still waiting for a a drive to crack the 100MB/s on 4KQD1 reads

@W1zzard, the title says 14GB/s but the onbly time the drive manages to do this is in synthetics On the perf-ver-time graph its dosent get anywhere close, or am I missing something? - https://www.techpowerup.com/review/msi-spatium-m580-frozr-4-tb/6.html

 

[W1zzard]

the title says 14GB/s but the onbly time the drive manages to do this is in synthetics On the perf-ver-time graph its dosent get anywhere close, or am I missing something?

That's how "up to" works.

CrystalDiskMark rewriting a 1 GB sized area over-and-over gets 14 GB/s

My synthetic write tests get up to 12 GB/s at higher queue depth, because they target a larger 32 GB area

The "sequential write speed over time" graph is intentionally running at QD1, so that it shows what you can expect when copying a file to the drive. Other publications test this at higher queue depths to get a "maximum of the drive" result, which is just as valid, just slightly different in philosophy

 

[bug]

Wait, so if you add a fan, that halves the write speeds?

Be that as it may, 4TB is available for $200 and change these days (even in TLC form).

 

[W1zzard]

Wait, so if you add a fan, that halves the write speeds?

hmm.. good question, that shouldnt happen

 

[bug]

hmm.. good question, that shouldnt happen

It could be like F1 tires: if you don't warm it up enough, it can't give you full performance

 

[W1zzard]

It could be like F1 tires: if you don't warm it up enough, it can't give you full performance

Just retesting this for you, getting 8 GB/s .. maybe I confused some log files. Will retest asap

 

[Dimitriman]

THanK yOu MSI I am so grateful for one more kg of heat sink bearing down on my motherboard. I will take 3 of these.

Jokes aside, I'm skipping anything M.2 that requires active cooling for the time being.

 

[bug]

THanK yOu MSI I am so grateful for one more kg of heat sink bearing down on my motherboard. I will take 3 of these.

I'm pretty sure these are meant for ultrabooks

Jokes aside, I'm skipping anything M.2 that requires active cooling for the time being.

I still don't see the point paying for PCIe5, heatsink or no heatsink.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Might want to add a kick stand on it as well before to rips the m.2 socket off the board hehe

Jokes aside, I'm skipping anything M.2 that requires active cooling for the time being.

Well this type of heatsink is beyond overkill and into wtf territory lol

 

[Chaitanya]

Well this type of heatsink is beyond overkill and into wtf territory lol

Looking at temps it manages without any whiny tiny fans, thats quite impressive.

 

[W1zzard]

Looking at temps it manages without any whiny tiny fans, thats quite impressive.

Exactly, and the reason why it got a Recommended from me (+ the fact that 4 TB is offered)

 

[Wasteland]

lol, that heatsink is farcical. I sure hope that PCIe 4.0 drives stick around for a long time, because 5.0 looks more and more like a bad joke. A near-unanimous majority of the consumer market won't even notice a speed increase; that is the reward for strapping this grotesque monstrosity onto your motherboard. Imagine slotting two or three drives, lmao.

 

[W1zzard]

Wait, so if you add a fan, that halves the write speeds?

This is fixed now, I retested it and everything looks correct now.

For next round of retesting I'll be testing temperatures at higher queue depth though, to get better transfer rates.

 

[starfals]

At these prices, it better has 30% increase in real life performance or else.. no thanks. Yes, literally 30%, cus look at the prices. It is more than 30% expensive, lol... compared to many other similar in speed drives. So yeah... idk when we will ever consider gen 5 drives mainstream (and worth buying). SSD prices are going up as we speak, so if anything.. people would focus even more on Gen 3 and 4. Can you imagine if this super expensive drive goes up in price even more? RIP.

The review is right, there are other drives, much cheaper and similar in performance. Not to mention, as i said.. the performance doesnt seem to be all that much better, even if these drives were CHEAPER than Gen 4. I would probably still skip them, cus of the whole heat and heatsink issues. Even if some of them are finally okay-ish when it comes to temps. Yes, i would skip a Gen 5 drive even if it was cheaper, you heard me right, and yes.. my MOBO has a slot for it.

lol, that heatsink is farcical. I sure hope that PCIe 4.0 drives stick around for a long time, because 5.0 looks more and more like a bad joke. A near-unanimous majority of the consumer market won't even notice a speed increase; that is the reward for strapping this grotesque monstrosity onto your motherboard. Imagine slotting two or three drives, lmao.

Haha yeah, imagine now... 4. I got 4 SSDS already in my motherboard. I CANT imagine all of them having this giant thing on lol. Then there's the CPU cooler too. The motherboard would scream, if it could that is lol.

 

[Dr. Dro]

THanK yOu MSI I am so grateful for one more kg of heat sink bearing down on my motherboard. I will take 3 of these.

Jokes aside, I'm skipping anything M.2 that requires active cooling for the time being.

Yep. It's long since gone past the point I feel tower builds where the motherboard is sitting upright are viable. If i'm going to be attaching several kilos of copper onto it for cooling purposes, a bench it'll have to be.

 

[Hakker]

I still rather go with a Gen 4 SSD. The gains are too small to justify A The Price gain, The extra power consumption, The extra cooling needed. And for what a max 0.5 sec faster level load in gaming. You copy large amounts hardly at all for most people. Steam games... good luck your Internet can't keep up. Really for 99,9% of the people Gen 5 SSDs are as useless as it can get.

Spend the cash on a better videocard.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

Still waiting for a a drive to crack the 100MB/s on 4KQD1 reads

I'm pretty sure Intel Optane with 3Dx-point were the only drive to achieve this feat.
I think they did something like 300MB/s on 4KQD1 reads & writes.

 

[Kaleid]

Yeah, random 4k is where we want results. And gen5 is too difficult to cool, I would only have one place to use this as the cooler uses too much space, it wouldn't fit underneath the GPU. So, we need cables again and the ability to cool this stuff elsewhere.

 

[TristanX]

why nobody is testing similar high end SSD, T-force ge pro with 14 GB/s, that is already available at newegg for some time ? Hopefully to see test of it soon here.

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[HairyLobsters]

It could be like F1 tires: if you don't warm it up enough, it can't give you full performance

The flash chips operate better when warm actually, the only thing that needs cooling is the controller, but no SSD coolers just cool the controller itself that I'm aware of.

 

[Deleted member 229121]

I still rather go with a Gen 4 SSD. The gains are too small to justify A The Price gain, The extra power consumption, The extra cooling needed. And for what a max 0.5 sec faster level load in gaming. You copy large amounts hardly at all for most people. Steam games... good luck your Internet can't keep up. Really for 99,9% of the people Gen 5 SSDs are as useless as it can get.

Spend the cash on a better videocard.

The elephant in the room. Gen 5 just isn't worth it.

 

[bug]

The elephant in the room. Gen 5 just isn't worth it.

It's totally worth it for manufacturers.

 

[AleXXX666]

THanK yOu MSI I am so grateful for one more kg of heat sink bearing down on my motherboard. I will take 3 of these.

Jokes aside, I'm skipping anything M.2 that requires active cooling for the time being.

I'm skipping this crap with CPU cooler also, cuz you can't put it into laptop, at least.

 

[MKRonin]

How did you test the drive running at PCIe 5.0? Did you use an nvme expansion card plugged into one of the x8 slots?