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NVIDIA Builds Exotic RTX 4070 From Larger AD103 by Disabling Nearly Half its Shaders

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What? 2080Ti > 3080Ti was a bigger jump in RT performance than 3090 to 4090. Maybe what you say is true for other parts of the product stack but nobody is doing the latest detailed benchmarks with mid-tier 20-series by the looks of it.

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I'm not sure the 2080Ti can path trace or not. I'm seeing no benchmarks anywhere so maybe it's a "30-series-and-above" feature in CP2077, the single heaviest RT title I can think of.
And the performance of the non-RT hardware in the newer cards is not having an impact... :kookoo: Clockspeeds, shaders, VRAM bandwidth etc? Try looking at the performance hit from enabling RT.
 
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I tried searching the box for any manufacturing date but I didn't find anything, and the BIOS is not available in the database
Please upload that BIOS to help W1zz in adding support for this card to GPU-Z.
 
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And the performance of the non-RT hardware in the newer cards is not having an impact... :kookoo: Clockspeeds, shaders, VRAM bandwidth etc? Try looking at the performance hit from enabling RT.
You were complaining solely about RT performance stagnation, so I showed that the RT performance jumping an enormous 83% and 76% amount per generation.
RT performance is improving faster than non-RT performance, since general performance per gen including all the raster/shader/FLOPS stuff is more like 25-50% depending on which models you pick to compare.

So even relative to the non-RT performance gains per generation, the RT hardware is improving at about double that rate. How is that a "glacial pace" of RT improvement?
Feel free to explain it in a way that makes sense, but as far as I can see it's pretty black and white; RT performance is improving faster than anything else in the GPU space right now. It's the opposite of glacial.
 

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Please upload that BIOS to help W1zz in adding support for this card to GPU-Z.
I've already uploaded it to the database, but just to make sure nothing I made was wrong I will upload it here because I saw the PCIe is set to gen 3 and the card it self is gen 3 also.
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I've already uploaded it to the database, but just to make sure nothing I made was wrong I will upload it here because I saw the PCIe is set to gen 3 and the card it self is gen 3 also.
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That's due to your motherboard/CPU, one or both of which doesn't support PCIe 4.0.
 
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I know but it should say that the card supports PCIE 4.0 but it's running on 3.0 right?
Yes, you are right! Maybe the fact that GPU-Z doesn't support this model is affecting its ability to detect the bus speed correctly.
 
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